2016 NLDS - San Francisco Giants vs Chicago Cubs

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Gm 1 Fri, Oct 7 9:00 PM/ 6 Pacific Giants @ Cubs Cueto (18-5) at Lester (19-5) FS1
Gm 2 Sat, Oct 8 8:00 PM/ 5 Pacific Giants @ Cubs TBD at Hendricks (16-8) MLBN
Gm 3 Mon, Oct 10 TBD Cubs @ Giants TBD at TBD
FS1 / MLBN
Gm 4* Tue, Oct 11 TBD Cubs @ Giants TBD at TBD
FS1
Gm 5* Thu, Oct 13 TBD Giants @ Cubs TBD at TBD
FS1

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Cubs in four 8
Giants in five 6
Giants in four 3
Cubs in five 3
Cubs in three 1
Giants in three 0


Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

Giants in five

Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

cubs in who cares cubs

qualx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link

i really, really like the Giants chances. their starting pitching can take them back to the World Series.

Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2016 05:11 (seven years ago) link

don't get me wrong, i know the Cubs are the better team but...

Bee OK, Thursday, 6 October 2016 05:12 (seven years ago) link

cubs

qualx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link

Anyone but the fucking Giants.

Andy K, Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:51 (seven years ago) link

go Cubs go, but if they choke at least NA gets to put his Bears shit on

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2016 10:59 (seven years ago) link

giants somehow.

bnw, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Rooting for the Cubs to crush the Giants into a bowl of tomato paste.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

not sure why the games list TBD for the Cubs after game 2, they announced Arrieta for game 3 and Lackey for game 4
i'll go Cubs in 4

na (NA), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

cubs obv

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

i'm with Childs on this one, i don't believe in this even year crap. cubs in 4.

https://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyc0agZwxX1qfqm3ro1_400.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

cubs in 4

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 7 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Cubs in four.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 7 October 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link

this Giant hate is cranking me up. you people!

Bee OK, Friday, 7 October 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link

DON'T LOOK AT ME

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 7 October 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link

Rany Jazayerli:

How unusual is Joe Maddon’s approach to defensive positioning? We had to invent a new metric to fully appreciate it — and to understand what it might mean for the Cubs’ World Series hopes.

https://theringer.com/we-had-to-invent-a-new-metric-to-properly-appreciate-the-cubs-84f371e73b90#.x4vaklefn

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 October 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

a version of this could be posted every year, or at least every year that a clearly dominant team is in the postseason, but it's still worth reading for anyone who might assume that the best team will probably win the world series:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-2016-cubs-are-already-a-success/

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

deadspin came up with a good description of tragically injured cub kyle schwarber: a fun strong home-run chub who mashes magnificent taters

nomar, Friday, 7 October 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

Game 3 time on Monday has been announced it will be at 6:30 pacific

Bee OK, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

That line in the Cameron piece about how the Cubs probably don't feel lucky to have to go through Cueto and Bumgarner...I mean, too bad! I'm sure they're not griping about it.

Here's my argument in favor of "tournament baseball" - the team that plays better than the other team in a particular game usually wins that game.

timellison, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

the team that plays better than the other team in a particular game usually wins that game.

i'd agree with that if you mean "usually" as in like 51% of the time.

i mean, let's say both team's starting pitchers dominate. they don't allow any hits or runs. until the 9th inning. in the 8th inning, Team A gets two singles, then a home run. They're up 3-0. Team B bats in the bottom of the 9th. The first guy hits a home run. Then there are two singles, and then the ending ends. They lose 3-1. Both teams end up with 3 hits (2 singles and a home run). Did team A really play better?

versions of that happen all the time. sure there are plenty of games where one team makes a few terrible errors and the starting pitcher obviously doesn't have it. but there's a reason that even division-winning teams still lose 40% of the time, and it's not because they forget how to be good at baseball during 2/5 of their games

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

this means the Giants are going to win in 3, right?

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Let's Go Giants!

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

i'm not as high stressed tonight.

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

one and done drove me up the wall. best of five is so much better.

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

probably would have been out?

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:18 (seven years ago) link

not what is suppose to happen

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

i understand trying to go and all that but i felt like they could have waited. by rushing it they threw him out pretty easily.

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

this camera angle is driving me crazy. how long have the Cubs played here?

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

couple of weeks now

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

The angle and framing are really bad and weird, I wonder why. Doesn't usually look like this.

Immediate Follower (NA), Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

i understand that the whole world outside Giants fans are for the Cubs. but do the announcers have to be this over the top about it?

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

it's ridiculous

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

that was bad, should not happen in this type of game.

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

i thought that 3 - 1 pitch was a home run

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

wow

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

(you should really who is at bat, that's Pence not Posey)

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link

this is their chance

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

denied

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

yes, i'm sort of hanging on every pitch and for that i'm sorry

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

you have to bee seeing the same thing

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

lol, i really didn't mean bee

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

good game, i'm going to shut up now...

Bee OK, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

cueto is so fun to watch

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 October 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link

smoltz > reynolds is what I'm saying

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

Smoltz: "If you drop a golf ball in Hunter Pence's hair, you are not getting it out"

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

Otm tho

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

what a game from Matt Moore.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:06 (seven years ago) link

^^^^^

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

Brillant brillant stuff by Moore. Now to the 9th.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

Also love how mlb.tv let have you KNBR while watching the TBS feed.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

Moore pretty much doing this seasons Vogelsong.

earlnash, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:27 (seven years ago) link

Giants are pretty much death by a thousand cuts and this stadium with the pitching kinda neutralizes big power teams in a short series.

earlnash, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:29 (seven years ago) link

They are built for this big place in the same way Herzog's Cardinals teams were built to play on Astroturf.

earlnash, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link

La neuvième manche, putain.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

GULP

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Oh boy

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link

geesh Giants

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:44 (seven years ago) link

*throwing objects across the room*

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

this is SO giants

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

lol

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

Gotta turn a double here dammit

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

https://s10.postimg.org/4s78jissp/bochy.png

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link

Grant Brisbee ‏@mccoveychron
"Bochy is walking out to the mound. Still walking. He just walked past it? Now he's climbing the arcade. He's... yes, he's in the Bay now."

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

total meltdown

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

Omg what are they doing

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

now let's turn this into a no aroldis needed situation

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

guess who is in the market for a closer!

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link

does romo always giggle when he fucks up? i guess when you have 3 rings it doesn't matter much

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

His coping mechanism

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:58 (seven years ago) link

he had that "ooooooh the teacher caught yooou!!" look on his face except the teacher was bruce bochy and there was no one else there

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

Wow!

earlnash, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

Un real

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

Was not really rooting for either team, but I did want to see a game 5. Can't believe how predictably bad the Giants were in the 9th though, after 8 incredible innings by Moore.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link

They are who we thought they were

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

Ouch.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

Managing the pitching/bullpen has been one of the Bochy/Righetti's forte, so much that they were confident about trading for Moore and paying good money to Samardzija. I don't know what they could have done to prevent his implosion, it does seem like since the end of August they have tried everything, I'm sure they'll have the ressources to fix this. They still have a lot of very good elements, and they gave us great moments this season.

Rooting for the Nats now, because you know.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link

Also the Cubs are really really good, jesus.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link

i know anything can happen in 7 games blah blah but it's really hard to imagine the nats beating this team

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

dodgers maybe

qualx, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 04:22 (seven years ago) link

Giants are pretty much death by a thousand cuts and this stadium with the pitching kinda neutralizes big power teams in a short series.

lol

slept from the 6th inning on here, of course

Even Year: Bullshit!

go Cubs go, at least through the LCS

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 06:44 (seven years ago) link

i'm sorry, Bee OK

at least you don't hafta watch that CF camera angle from Wrigley again.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 06:45 (seven years ago) link

@SamMillerBB Oct 10

Another manager wishing he'd brought in Zach Britton

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 07:29 (seven years ago) link

I went to bed early with a headache last night so this was a pleasant surprise when I woke up. Watching the ninth inning now, I'd blame the SF defense before their relievers. There were a lot of ground balls past diving infielders, plus the botched double play.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

Baez was obviously the MVP for this series

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 10:44 (seven years ago) link

Grant Brisbee
‏@mccoveychron
"Bochy is walking out to the mound. Still walking. He just walked past it? Now he's climbing the arcade. He's... yes, he's in the Bay now."

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CukxI2QW8AAicVy.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

can't imagine watching that as a Giants fan. brutal. in obvious hindsight, felt like you needed to leave one of those relievers in there. Like they would each throw 3 balls right away... needed to settle in a bit. props to the cubbies who I will hate all postseason & until i perish from the earth.

bnw, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

i would have left law in but whatever

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Should have put Cueto in for an inning, ha.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

I was kind of looking forward to a game 5 and the Cueto/Bumgarner two-headed monster taking on the Cubs (obv. MadBum was coming in to save that if they had a lead).

Really only Zobrist's ball was hit hard in that inning, so yeah, maybe Bochy should have left one of his guys in to get settled.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

This bit from Schoenfield's column really blew my mind:

We've never seen this happen before -- at least not in the postseason. Only three times in playoff history had a team rallied from a three-run deficit in the ninth inning, and all three of those games, amazingly, were in 1986. Those teams (the Angels in Game 4 of the ALCS, the Red Sox in Game 5 of the ALCS and the Mets over the Astros in Game 6 of the NLCS) all needed extra innings to pull off a win.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

this would hurt so much worse for me if i hadn't just gone through the NBA finals

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link


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