^ knows what she is talking about
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
also: superb, carry on, etc
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
These are rad and I wd totally buy a book! Kind of excited at the promise of one, actually.
― falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 5 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Nah I’m not fronting on you Abbott – I dig Campbell and McCay and the Bunch, y'know! I just thought since Louis’s dropping inherently comparative terms like “superb” wrt specifics of your lettering, this could open a fruitful avenue for further ILC discussion – like is creativity at designing different styles for different speakers and modes, and using those consistently across a story or oeuvre – say in the mode of Abe Kanegson, Dave Sim, Todd Klein, Gaspar Saladino, Dan Clowes – a marker of excellence (if not superbity*) here, or is LJ (or IKR or E3!) thinking more along the lines of Panter, Ellsworth, Furie... a looseness that matches the brut aspects of the art, if you like? I’m usu. the only person to ever mention lettering here*, would be really good to get some more talk from people that have considered opinions about the integration of text and art
*and then mainly just noting works I found literally unreadable do to their placement in a post-Starkings p-line world!
― one of the jones boys (sic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa ok I did not know with whom I was fucking back there
― uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link
you take BACK your lettering compliment!
― biologically wrong (Z S), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I basically meant I really dig how A's writing looks, and how it can change character depending on its situation and retain a strong voice...I am *not* an expert, and if there's a debate with specifics, I'm lost. However, I'm glad sic enforced some descriptive rigour on my part; that's always welcome.
― uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
do to
argh shoot me
LJ (or IKR or E3!)
or ZS!
― one of the jones boys (sic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
also I lost the first asterisk, obv
― one of the jones boys (sic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
sic, post some examples! :)
― uh is that miseplled? (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:31 (fourteen years ago) link
abbott these are awesome
also: you should have chosen nik fiend for nick #3
― still driving steen, banning deez, gettin my dick xhuxked (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
nick knox!
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
they're good is what they are.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
NIK FIEND! Oh Crütz, it would have fit so well.
― how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
sic in no way did I think you were fronting on me or my lettering. I seriously am sometimes illegible, and just lazY (like first panel of "suicider prevention comics," not whiting out mangled word "attention" and redoing it so it's legible but just reglossing it on the next line in parentheses, which is like next level lazy). I could say a lot of things about the formation of letters as a mood element, and a visual element, or as "the third mind," but I could say them a lot better in an IRL soapbox after a couple of beers than I could by typing them here. Save to say one of the things I am giving to YTTH I originally did the text with an actually typeface, and never have I felt artistically wronger, or more false, or more sterile.
― how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link
What I mean is, I plan to redo the words by hand.
― how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link
It might bear noting that at the time I had this personal aesthetic theory (for myself, not rly to be applied elsewhere) that typos, and mistakes, and etc., should never be changed and always laid bare. That they added a sort of humane (=flawed) honesty and richness to written affairs. In drawing mistakes get turned into other things, but you can't really do that with words. – they're not at all viusually flexible. Leaving writing errors bare seemed to introduce to words the element I liked in drawing of "aw damn I drew this mouth all wrong, I guess I'll make it into an elephant coming out of a teapot."
― how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
By hand-lettering you've already leapt past the slothocracy of cut&paste webcomics. HIGH FIVES!
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys, I just read a book on how to make comics and my mind is blown. This is going to sound really, incredibly stupid and naive (and it is): I didn't know people drew comics at bigger sizes than usual. This explains so much.
― could be a bad day for (Abbott), Friday, 16 July 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Scott McCloud wants you to make comix Abbott
― i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 July 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
what about comics with bigger pens than usual?http://projectsite.unitedstatesartists.org/project/giant_steel_dip_pen_and_penholder_for_demonstration_and_display?sms_ss=facebook
― dad, i wanna be a lothario speedwagon (ytth), Friday, 16 July 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
What book was it, Abbott?
― Nhex, Friday, 16 July 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
most comic bk art was drawn '2 up' (ie 2 times larger than the printed page) until the late 1960s, when it went '1 and a half up' (it has pretty much stayed there ever so since) - you can really notice the difference w/ jack kirby's comics, for example.
some artists - i'm struggling to think of examples, other than trevor von eeden of all ppl - DO draw 'same size'. maybe (sic) will know if or how image size makes a diff to strips created on a computer, where there is no physical page as such.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 July 2010 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Chris Weston draws same size, then blows it up to submission size and re-inks it. I have a Ministry of Space page that proves it.
― Hey Jabulani! Pope of four four two. (aldo), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
That's crazy, Weston's work is super-detailed.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Not that I doubt you, I just find it crazily surprising.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
The book was, in fact, Scott McCloud's Making Comics. And, that is an interesting fact, Ward. I had been drawing everything same size, which I think is pretty obvious? It's really hard to write legibly that small.
I think the only comic I didn't think was drawn at the usual size was the "Bazooka Joe" comics in the bubblegum wrappers.
― could be a bad day for (Abbott), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
bump for fun
― i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 July 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Abbott, word on the street is that you might be putting together a comic for J0rd4n+Ju5t1n3?
― Z S, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
bumpin'
― Z S, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, after I do another project for them (which I have actually done another picture for hai guyz).
― sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link
we're pretty much just going to be the publishing arm of abbott's comic art empire.
― dad, i wanna be a lothario speedwagon (ytth), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
aw when did this stop
― What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 January 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
i still have my abbott comix chapbook
― Mordy, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
I got a little bit better at this
http://scienceology.com/
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Friday, 16 October 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i'm enjoying that!
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 October 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
lol @ "I'm killing a baby on the beach for some reason!"
which does not actually happen in the film
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 October 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
oops
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Friday, 16 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
don't apologize for being funny
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 October 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link
Me too
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 18 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
SAD WITH RICH MOM
― crime breeze (schlump), Sunday, 18 October 2015 05:56 (eight years ago) link
you really have gotten better, abbz!
― Nhex, Sunday, 18 October 2015 06:16 (eight years ago) link
i think we still have some abbott chapbooks floating around the workshop
― just1n3, Sunday, 18 October 2015 07:16 (eight years ago) link
i can't find mine : /
― mookieproof, Sunday, 18 October 2015 08:08 (eight years ago) link
Forest fire panel in under the skin strip is gorgeous!
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 18 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Thank you!!
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:28 (eight years ago) link
I don't know that I've even gotten better at drawing or comics or whatever but...just less afraid of being in my own skin.
hope there's many more of these to come; i would read daily.
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:29 (eight years ago) link
My goal is to average 2-3 a week
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
nice!
― a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 October 2015 04:43 (eight years ago) link
simon schama tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 November 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
That was awesome
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link
my favorite one yet
http://scienceology.com/2015/11/15/the-beach-boys-the-true-american-story-of-the-true-american-band-a-comic/
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link
i'm so so confused
― Nhex, Monday, 16 November 2015 07:34 (eight years ago) link
That was delightful. And fairly accurate, from what I recall.
― Alien All-Topless (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 November 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link
yep! <3 it
― Karl Malone, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
awesome
lol @ CVB quote
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 November 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
ok I think in reality the best thing about it is this feedback from my Dad: "Funny, but the Beach Boys were actually on the beach at least once as is manifested by their picture of them in front of their woody and with surfboards on one of their albums. I was a kid when they came out. We wore white pegged pants and played with yoyos while listening to the Beach Boys."
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 00:56 (eight years ago) link
this is exactly what I wanted the Great Pop Things book to be and it mostly wasn't (a few minor classix tho and I still regret lending it to someone and not getting it back)
the "astral plane" caption is possibly my favourite sentence ever
<3
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
That ruled abbs
Guiltily admit I lold at Denis death panel
^^^SPOLIERS
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
http://scienceology.com/2015/11/22/sketchbook-stories-untreated-depression/
― The Fart in Our Stalls (Abbott), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
― Rich Homie Quan Poor Homie Quan (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
― drash, Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
i do so like your style
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
http://scienceology.com/2015/12/21/hamilton-the-musical-and-the-greatest-bilingual-pun-of-all-time/
― you used to smell me on your smell phone (Abbott), Monday, 21 December 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
I don't get it? "Chat" is pronounced "shah", does that mean something in English?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link
It's a reference to a refrain in a song in the musical Hamilton, by Lin-Manuel Miranda. You'd probably enjoy it - it's the story of US founding father Alexander Hamilton, in which every role is taken by a performer of colour, most of the lyrics are rapped, and is riddled with quotes from classic hip-hop songs.
Biggest new hit on Broadway this year, and highest-selling original cast recording since Camelot.
(I enjoyed Abbott's cartoon, and would have been likewise baffled if I hadn't seen the show the day after learning it existed, two months ago.)
― glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link
Okay, thanks for the explanation and the link (dope tune, btw!), I get it now! But isn't the "t" in the French word silent, so it doesn't actually sound like "shot"?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
ok the Cat in the Hat lied to me about the pronunciation :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgJvqyZNjs
― you used to smell me on your smell phone (Abbott), Thursday, 24 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link
also sic I am sooo jealous you have seen Hamilton
― you used to smell me on your smell phone (Abbott), Thursday, 24 December 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
I'm sorry about my pedanticism... Maybe the North American French pronounce it differently though? :)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 24 December 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link
my French is terrible but the t isn't silent when followed by a vowel, also iirc in a lot of francophone songs they pronounce the silent letters which suggests to me that the French, unlike the Finnish, employ poetic license
― curvy coombian coiffe (wins), Thursday, 24 December 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link
If it's a girl cat, it could be une chatte.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 24 December 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link