Hawkeyes cologne smells like cheap stale beer and pizza. the slogan is "Be Realistic"
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 December 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
sounds about right
Who are considered to be the A-list Avengers these days? Hickman seems to really be attached to this subset:
Captains America and MarvelIron ManHulkSpider WomanManifoldBlack WidowBruce Banner (moreso than Hulk)Thor
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
Is it just me or did it seem like drawing a curtain over a lot of series this month? Avengers Arena and Fearless Defenders for sure, Young Avengers feeling like it and Infinity being over plus some other things I've forgotten already - Scarlet Spider? Carnage?
The Kirby tribute Deadpool was great.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
YA is ending soon (next month?). Marvel is starting to do a thing where they are willing to greenlight stories that are longer than the traditional miniseries but not meaty enough to sustain a fully ongoing title, hence the 18 issue run of Avengers Academy that sets the stage for Avengers Undercover next year, or this latest entry into the Young Avengers saga. I think Wolverine and the X-Men is ending soon, too?
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
I'm pretty sure all of those are wrapping up. Arena and Young Avengers finished as planned, Fearless Defenders and a few others were cancelled for lack of interest.
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― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
YA felt like it was over, but has a next issue blurb and cover at the end of the letters column.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Forgot to say too that 3w1ng's digital-only Iron Man comic is a lot of fun. And that Fantomex is a massive pile of wank, "oooooh shocking" nonsense dressed up "look at me!" clothing.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
it's kind of hilarious that the most resonant image YA had for me over the course of a series filled with gorgeous, unforgettable images, was Prodigy's phone tree
basically I like graphs
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
(also a large part of why I Went bananas for the Pizza Dog issue of Hawkeye)
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
So, I know this is long, but I think it is pretty fun:
Finally, "Infinity" was different from past Marvel events in that the core story was featured in three titles all written by you, Jonathan. What was it like writing such a massive story? How does it feel to bring the story to a close?
Hickman: [Laughs] Well, I don't think we should have done it that way. I think it was irresponsible, but as soon as I got into it there was no other way to do it.
It was a lot of work. it feels good to be done, and I'm happy that we didn't screw up too badly. That's a terrible answer. [Laughs] Tom, do you have a better answer?
Brevoort: [Laughs] I think that's a pretty good answer. As we've said before, we completely failed in this instance to make the core series stand alone. We always try to do that, and more often than not in the past we've succeed. This was one where once we got into it, it just couldn't be done. So fairly early on we made the choice and the switch. We realized that we were going to have to treat the "Avengers" and "New Avengers" chapters as essential pieces otherwise we were going to need twice as many "Infinity" issues for everything to happen. We just didn't have that strategically, resource wise, or the time. It couldn't be that way.
That's kind of a reflection that every event is different. In this case the shape of the story and how it sat in "Avengers" and "New Avengers" and how much you could convey and make matter in just the core book dictated that we had to do it this way. It was a choice, but it came from having no choice. This was really the best option we had in terms of being able to do this.
So it's a glorious failure, but it's a failure nonetheless. [Laughs]
Hickman: The biggest problem was how late it came together and that I wasn't really expecting to do it. So we were always racing against the clock. Once we made initial decisions we were locked into them and that's how we got into the situation where the six-issue event book basically became a 16-issue story. [Laughs] Everybody did as good of a job as they possibly could though, and in some instances, especially with the art, they really exceeded expectations. So I think it all turned out okay.
Brevoort: I've been sort of astonished by how positive everyone seems be about the story. Even people who weren't completely on board with it at different points seem to not dislike it as much as they have other things that we've done in the past. I'm not quite sure if that's a good or a bad thing quite frankly, but the reactions and reviews to issue #6 that I've seen so far have been pretty good and pretty positive. People seem to like it and that's always gratifying. So we're happy about that.
Really refreshingly honest, and completely unlike anything I could imaginge coming from DC.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
Should probably say that it's taken from here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49599
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
I think Wolverine and the X-Men is ending soon, too?
I know that this is probably inevitable given the new character landscape and the fact they're doing this temporary series to get Nightcrawler back, but bleeeeh.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
is Amazing temporary? I thought it was actually replacing WatX
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
Ah, that'd make more sense.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Watxm is relaunching with a new creative team. I'm looking forward to Avengers Undercover, cos Arena was the best Marvel book I've read in a while.
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
YA's having a two-issue afterparty/jam issues, ends at 15 I think.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 December 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link
btw can I just say YA was super charming and 90% of that is because of Jamie McKelvie's art
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
I preferred watching it to reading it - some of that is just literally Jamie McKelvie's lovely lines on a page, but a lot of it is what the page looks like, which I gather is more of a collaboration - there's a great post from Gillen about how and whether to disentangle that stuff.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 December 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
I thought Cyclops killed Charles Xavier, but here he is in New Avengers #13. I totally don't know what the hell is going on in the M.U. anymore.
― oldbowie (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
alt universe Xavier. They're watching that world through the bridge.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
Ah, ok. That's what I get for quick skimming.
― oldbowie (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that is why mags is wearing his classic costume, too. that's the alt-world version of the illuminati or whatevs
― mh, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I have read now Hickman's New Avengers up to #8 and Avengers to #13. Personally, I like the epic nature of the whole scope, even if some of the dialog is perhaps a bit stiff. I'm working on the last prelude to Infinity issues in Avengers and will start the main story next. I like it in that it feels big in the way some of Jim Starlin and Grant Morrison's cosmic comics seem. I like that Aim and the High Evolutionary showed up. It would seem that Eternity or the Celestials should show up at some point, if nothing else to see how they tie back into the Builders etc.
Funny thing is that the whole multi-verse in Marvel looks a heck of alot like the Bleed and the Monitors shown in Final Crisis. Perhaps it is all one and the same really...
― earlnash, Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
I'm not sure if the Celestials are locked into Uncanny Avengers right now and they're unavailable or what
― mh, Thursday, 2 January 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link
Infinity and Hickman's run on Avengers is pretty good. It's probably the best big Marvel story since the Annhilation.
"I wonder why he bothered making Cannonball and Sunspot Avengers if he was hardly ever going to do anything with them."
I don't know, considering that neither character is really a key part of the big plot (at yet), I think he has incorporated both quite a bit, usually for levity. Maybe it is because I have been reading that era of Avengers in Essentials, but the scenes they do popup in remind me a bit of the old Beast/Wonderman friendship.
I also got caught up and read Mark Waid's Indestructible Hulk 1-16 and the Jeff Parker written Annual. That also was a pretty fun read. Walt Simonson's artwork on the 3 parter with Hulk and Thor versus Ice Giants was fantastic. It looked really good, much better than the few issues of Avengers Simonson did a while back.
― earlnash, Saturday, 4 January 2014 06:57 (ten years ago) link
star wars NOWhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/how-star-wars-marvel-move-668465
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 January 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
that's gotta be a bummer for that fanbase, niche as it is
― Nhex, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link
not that it's a thing for me, but it's gotta demolish a lot of hard built canon; wonder if marvel will even pretend to honor that
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 January 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Can't wait for some heroes to time travel too many times, crack open the universe, and have some jedi pop through into good ol' 616
― mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Han Solo/Bishop limited series teamup
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Darth Doom
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Darth Doom the Annihiliating Conquerer of Coruscant
― mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Emperor Thanos.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link
Avengers World really reminded me why I like Hickman. Just so many bat-shit ideas thrown into twenty pages.
Anything else worthwhile from ALL NEW NOW!!!
― Frederik B, Thursday, 9 January 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link
Superior Foes of Spider-Man has been fun. Bendis is doing his best work in a decade with the out of time X-Men. Al Ewing's Mighty Avengers is charming me despite Land's art, which is a mighty feat indeed. Others are loving Hawkeye and Young Avengers, though I'm ambivalent toward them at best.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link
But I'm a few months behind. Is that the newest Hickvengers?
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link
Okay, I just read about NOW2. Most of those look and sound dreadful. Phil Noto's Black Widow at least looks good.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
Young Avengers just ended. Hawkeye rules. You have to get Mighty Avengers because of we support our own and it also happens to be great (plus it has Monica Rambeau in it). The X-Factor reboot was suprisingly fun but I like PAD on autopilot, so
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 9 January 2014 04:06 (ten years ago) link
I wondered what happened to her after Nextwave
― Nhex, Thursday, 9 January 2014 05:02 (ten years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, 9. januar 2014 03:17 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yup, with help from Nick Spencer (Superior Foes of Spider-Man). Hickman really makes people like Johns and Bendis look myopic with all their heroes-fighting-heroes stuff.
Last issue of Young Avengers was awesome.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 9 January 2014 08:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, new x-factor was non-earth-shaking fun.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 9 January 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link
I really enjoyed the original Madrox detective show setup of X-Factor and lost interest when it drifted from that -- then read the last issue before the relaunch out of loyalty and was glad I skipped it. BUT what's the new one like?
Mighty Avengers has such a lovely tone of voice and hangout vibe, it's already a keeper - actually kind of reminds me of PAD's original X-Factor run from the 90s.
I still think Daredevil is terrific if also auto-piloty (but folks here are ambivalent)
Speaking of loyalty, I read Justice League 3000 and it made me :(
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 January 2014 10:17 (ten years ago) link
It looks like PAD is exploring the X-Statix/Youngblood idea of a corporate hero team, only with PAD-humor rather than overwhelming cynicism.
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 9 January 2014 12:59 (ten years ago) link
I'm just glad he's well enough to write anything at all.
― Palsied Phlebotomist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 January 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
i dig new direction iron man
― this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 January 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Oo, I think I'm sold. i loved that too-short run he did then.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 10 January 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link
New She-Hulk was awesome. All lawyering, all the time. Loke #1 was great as well. Also, did people see that Ms Marvel #1 apparantly topped Marvel's digital sales chart? 2-7 was issues of Hawkeye...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 13 February 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
Really liked She-Hulk, and Ms Marvel was very promising--didn't get far into the plot, but was really well done.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 February 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
Is anyone else a Jeff Parker fan? He's more good-times fun writing than the cerebral Hickman end of the Marvel universe but I think his stuff is pretty clever
― have a nice blood (mh), Friday, 14 February 2014 00:30 (ten years ago) link
Jeff Parker is way better than alot of people ahead of him on the food chain.
Quite a few of the good writers over the years in super hero comics seem to oddly never get the main titles. Maybe it is because they can sell comics that many other writers couldn't get done. I guess I would be referring to guys like Steve Gerber or John Ostrander, guys that were really good writers and created stuff that lasted but never really got any real run with the top characters for various reasons. I figure Parker might end up in that kind of company in the super hero comic world.
― earlnash, Friday, 14 February 2014 03:27 (ten years ago) link