Thanks! Yeah, not to toot my own horn but it felt like we were finding a good balance. In hindsight we probably still did a little too much summary or lingering on silly things, but it was the kind of blog I want to read and want to write, where you're generally analyzing things at whatever level and not just listing everything that happens. It was also really cool because David has a much deeper knowledge of, for example, artist credits and careers, and could draw connections to other titles and things going on in the period that were really off my radar. It was a good pairing. Every time we meet up we talk vaguely about reviving it, but it's a schedule thing since projects like that do require setting aside dedicated time for reading, for having the conversation, and for editing/posting.
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 April 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
The lesson of the Farm Family thing isn't that "this is what a loving family looks like", it's that Logan is the harbinger of death.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 April 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link
Okay, but it's still pretty interminable.
― Dan I., Friday, 14 April 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
and I do think that a strong theme of the section (or at least the parts I saw, I fast-forwarded through most of it), was that Xavier wanted Big and (especially) Little wolverines to observe these good-hearted folks and learn that it's possible to live in a normal, peaceful manner with people you love without shoving a metal spike through their skull at the slightest provocation.
― Dan I., Friday, 14 April 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link
what with her being repeatedly shown to be institutionally feral and all
― Dan I., Friday, 14 April 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link
Well, yeah, that was all pretty explicitly rammed home. I think the thematic beat is fine, if unsubtle - just how it was worked into a narrative was pretty weak.
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 April 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
Sure, but I'm saying but a point of the sequence is that Xavier is dead wrong there.
I mean as noted it's not subtle about it - they watch Shane fercryingoutloud.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 April 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
Ah, fair enough.
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 April 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
As soon as they were on the freeway inviting them back for dinner I was wishing I could skip the next X minutes. Hoped it would be a fake-out where no one ended up murdered. :)
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 April 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
I thought the farm sequence was well-done; I just didn't need to see an innocent teenage boy murdered onscreen. That went too far for me.
― morrisp, Monday, 17 April 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link
I liked this movie despite everything. I'm biased towards the story, because I certainly empathize with a scruffy-bearded, self-loathing dad to a miraculous daughter who seems just like him in all the best and worst ways, and I'll give the time of day to any character whose emotional comfort zone is being angry at everything all the time even though they know it's self-defeating.
The villains, though - I had no idea why we were supposed to be afraid of them, much less interested in anything they had to say. They just seemed like an army of jerks. The orcs in LOTR were more believably fearsome, and you knew they didn't stand a chance either.
Stephen Merchant was completely unexpected. Didn't give him nearly enough to do.
My favorite part was (paraphrasing) "bad things happen to people I care about!" "then I'll be fine."
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 May 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link
This movie was recently re-released in B&W for a weekend (limited-run), which is an interesting thing for a big studio to do.
― face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link
I'd pay to see the silent film cut, like the black & chrome version of the last Mad Max. I might even pay movie ticket prices.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 03:13 (seven years ago) link
The b&w Logan cut is with the digital release as a freebie.
― mh, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 03:53 (seven years ago) link
watched logan last night and was super-impressed by jackman, stewart and dafne keen's performances - patrick stewart in particular was fantastic in a role that could easily have been mawkish but he was great at swinging between lucid tenderness and rage and confusion
i also really, really liked the effects they put together for professor x's seizures
i think ultimately it's better than the sum of its parts mainly due to the familiarity of jackman and stewart and how good their performances are. for all the talk of it being the first 'real' wolverine movie it shared a lot of the faults of mangold's first one - shitty villains and weirdly slack pacing being the main ones. and while i understand that having wolverine face and overcome a younger, more feral version of himself was thematically appropriate it ended up being just kinda ham-handed in practice. having him face off against sabretooth instead would still fit the themes of family and redemption and might offer a bit more of an interesting villain for a final face-off
the other thing which bugged me was the utterly implausible exposition video put together by the nurse who rescued laura - if they were going to do that, couldn't they have mocked up the shots as like stolen surveillance camera footage or something instead of implying that the was walking around highly secure areas with her phone out filming like a tourist?
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 11:25 (seven years ago) link
also, while i remember: i'm sure it's hard to do a road movie about a grizzled burnout shuttling a precious human cargo across a dystopian landscape without invoking children of men or the road but mangold seemed to be leaning into it rather than offering points of differentiation most of the time
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 11:34 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I made the same gripe up above (...I point out in a "gr8 minds think alike" way, not an "I scooped you" way)
― face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
two great minds united by irritation at a minor detail in an action movie
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
I think that's what brought Adorno & Horkheimer together
― face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link
captain and tennille too iirc
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link
I wonder if there will be an X-23 movie; I'd love to see Laura's story continue (although not necessarily the same story told in the comics). I read a blurb saying it may happen, but of course who knows.
I'm assuming the New Mutants movie coming next year has nothing to do with the world of "Logan" or the group of kids at the end.
― face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
it's going to have Storm from Days of Future Past, so barring time-jump shenanigans I assume it'll be set in the early '90s
― Nhex, Wednesday, 31 May 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
Grunge soundtrack!
― face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link
Grunge soundtrack would be perfect for that Cable movie we were brainstorming a while back, that would just go all-in on 1991-era badassery, and have only solid colors as backgrounds for 3/4 of the scenes, five variant opening credits sequences, etc.... gah, what thread was that?
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:09 (seven years ago) link
I reread some Cable stuff on Marvel Unlimited and it's not all bad? The badass gun dude cliche is horrible but any mid-/post-conflict era where dudes who are into guns and infiltrating our zeitgeist (and colonizing our police forces) makes a reasonable big gun man a viable alternative to "shoot everything" big gun man
plus pouches are back in
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 05:45 (seven years ago) link
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― bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link