Ugh, I gotta remember one of these days that this site uses BBcode.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
I made the jump from just picking up newsstand comics to regularly visiting an actual comic shop (actually a used bookseller with a rpg/comics sideline until the 90s comics boom hit) during Liefeld’s Marvel peak and it was just such a weird time. It took a year or two to realize things weren’t meant to be inherently incoherent, there were just too many badly plotted comics widely available
― mh, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 04:41 (five years ago) link
The post-peak newsstand years were just horrible. I should have stuck with Wendy the Good Little Witch until I had access to a full range of comics if I didn’t want to wreck my brain.
― mh, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 04:43 (five years ago) link
nhex, a quick jump around this suggests further (and shared!) investigation might be illuminating!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HsFBV9-umc
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 04:48 (five years ago) link
I've seen The Ambulance, complete with Stan Lee and Gene Colan cameos. It's not one of Larry Cohen's finest, but perfectly watchable.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 08:14 (five years ago) link
i just saw a Larry Cohen memorial screening of this (i think officially it's the first time this movie actually was screened in the NYC area, lol) a few nights ago. if you love over-the-top schlock it's a really good time. Red Buttons!?
the big surprise to me was that was that the main character (Eric Roberts) plays a Marvel Comics artist who seems to blatantly be a version of Liefeld - but who knows, maybe all the young hotshot artists in 1990 dressed and acted that way, giant mullets and pants that are painful to look at
Stan Lee's first film role, I think, and he actually gets several lines playing himself. a more savvy fan could probably mention all the cameos, didn't realize one of them was Gene Colan. think I saw Larry Hama in there?
xps mh: feel like the industry is still not learning. all these companies put out WAY too many books right now. sure some of them are good, but most are mediocre, and who can afford to buy 50-75 books a month from Marvel or DC alone, let alone muster up the interest to pursue them?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
I was going to say something about how having a diverse line of comics means many people could buy one or two titles (and get sucked into some crossover titles) that interest them. But, yeah, it's probably more likely the few people buying a shitload of titles that makes up the majority of monthly comic buyers
― mh, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link
i try to read everything the big two put out on a semi-regular basis and it's almost completely impossible even when price is no issue. no shade on the people who make it but who the hell needs a west coast avengers book right now? Or Deathstroke fer crissakes.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
The cover of Major X #2 makes me so happy.
Anyway #3 is the third issue of Major X to sell out the print run before release, so the comics market if even more crazy than I thought.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/screen-shot-2019-05-13-at-4.51.40-pm.jpg
― Have you ever had a dream that you um you had your you you could you (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 May 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
hahaha
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Monday, 13 May 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
successfully baited.
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 13 May 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link
TBF I think a laser pointer would be enough to successfully bait Rob Liefeld.
― Have you ever had a dream that you um you had your you you could you (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 May 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link
Crazy story here: https://www.comicsbeat.com/rob-liefeld-walking-away-from-youngblood/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 11 August 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
he mentions having a partner he can work with for other properties so I’m thinking... rob doesn’t own anything, now?and apparently it was jeph loeb who helped set up the initial deal back in the late 90s? whole lot to consider, here
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, 11 August 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
Very weird that he kept that sale under wraps for THIS long, less that it happened 20 years ago
― Nhex, Sunday, 11 August 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
I feel like there’s a dichotomy of people who casually laugh at Rob’s hijinks and Liefeld super fans and neither group is curious to dig into these things. For completely different reasons, though
― untuned mass damper (mh), Sunday, 11 August 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link
he mentions having a partner he can work with for other properties so I’m thinking... rob doesn’t own anything, now?I assume he at least partly owns all the stuff he says he still owns. And let’s face it, he can come up with new ideas with exactly as much value as the old ones in 15 minutes It’s definitely lol that Scott m-f Rosenberg was quietly sitting on this all the way through the Drunk Duck and payola eras, only to team up with an incoherent Andrew Rev at this stage. So many layers of fucking creators over & flushing investors’ $ down a burning toilet, smooshed into one unpalatable trifle
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 11 August 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
he uses the same “partnership”-style language to refer to the arrangement he had with Rosenberg and the other guy who has his other properties. I’d say that for his sake I hope he does still have some ownership, but I have no idea what kind of payout he got on the other ones!Like, what if Liefeld mysteriously got a million bucks for Badrock alone and a generous fee to pitch movies for twenty years? Sounds decent
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link
for his sake I hopehe stole art from freelancers & physically assaulted employees, and is still verbally abusive when ppl he had wronged are brought up decades later. cry him no tears.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
eh I didn’t imply unlimited empathy for his stock
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 03:39 (four years ago) link
Like, what if Liefeld mysteriously got a million bucks for Badrock alone and a generous fee to pitch movies for twenty years? Sounds decent
he sold Shrink! for the second time for a million bucks this year
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link
do I want to google to see what that is? probably not, but here we go
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
holding my head in my hands now, depressed that I've been reminded of something I definitely blocked from my memory
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
Imagine having a spare million dollars and then saying to yourself, I can think of no better use for this spare million dollars than to purchase the rights to a Rob Liefeld property. Preferably one that even people who are semi-familiar with the work of Rob Liefeld have never heard of.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
Hi Rob, if by chance you have on your person a random doodle you did while on the toilet, I have a blank check and very poor judgment.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
Rob Liefeld's "Random Toilet Doodle #001" (soliciting for publication October 2019, Direct-to-Video Movie out on February 2020, actual publication date April 2023)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
Preferably one that even people who are semi-familiar with the work of Rob Liefeld have never heard ofShrink! was literally five single-panel cartoons. The reportage on the second rights deal referred to this as a “story” and a “webcomic”.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Wow.
It just occurred to me...is this all stemming from his 'creation' of Deadpool (wherein he slapped a barely-repurposed Spider-Man costume on a character who subsequent creators then had to breathe some semblance of personality into)?
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
for those who need reminding of Shrink!, that million-dollar "story" of a superhero psychiatric therapist in full:
http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shrink3.jpg
http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shrink2.jpg
http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shrink4.jpg
http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shrink5.jpg
http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shrink6.jpg
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
18 years, two movie deals, and he's never even bothered to fix the typos.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
The contents of my high school notebook margins were more effortful than this.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
i like how by the last one the therapist is wearing a ... crop-top ... off-shoulder ... tank-top?
― na (NA), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
deadpool is entirely the reason anyone from hollywood gives two shits about liefeld. success breeds attention."shrink" strikes me like a movie pitch for a superhero psychologist ("it's sopranos meets the avengers!") and someone wants "From the Guy Who Brought You Deadpool" for the movie poster.it's a sad old world.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
deadpool is entirely the reason anyone from hollywood gives two shits about liefeld. success breeds attention.
why did Hollywood give so much of a shit about Deadpool in 2002? was Lopez mad that it was doing so badly that the Gail Simone run got cancelled and replaced with Agent X?
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
i feel good about not knowing that anyone in hollywood cared about deadpool in 2002the character is terrible imo, just a murdery brodown howard the duck.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
Jennifer Lopez bought and was intending to star in Shrink! in 2002.
(Deadpool is definitely repugnant.)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
ya oldsters
anyway, and i say this as a compliment, Joe Kelly deserves most of the credit for turning Deadpool from a = Deathstroke-ripoff to the fourth wall-breaking Spider-Man with a goofy cast of characters
― Nhex, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
Deadpool has been given more interesting facets over the years but not interesting enough to actively elicit my actual interest. Like it's the one Marvel character I don't make any effort to keep up with.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
I assume he at least partly owns all the stuff he says he still owns. And let’s face it, he can come up with new ideas with exactly as much value as the old ones in 15 minutes
remember when Liefeld justified taking a series that Loeb and Ian Churchill created away from Churchilland licensing it to a publisher trying to rebuild his line after many creators had walked, including the entirety of an imprint under a salaried (?) editorbecause said publisher had been exposed for ripping off artists by claiming that their work was substandard and therefore not paying for itbut publishing it anywayand then threatening on the internet to sue people who talked about it
and Liefeld's justification was that Churchill had slowed down and wasn't following Liefeld's editorial direction ...out of resentment that Liefeld had stolen his original art...
and part of Rob's explanation on a fan board was
Awesome has a vast library of over 500 characters, we cannot and would not choose to publish all of our titles in the current tumultuous marketplace. Do not kid yourself, the industry is suffering terribly! The honest members of the big 2 companies will concede that this is a trying time for publishers. The numbers continue to sink.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
#allegedly #iirc
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/05/william-messner-loebs-comics-kiss-the-end-3/good to see him working but does he have a home?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
remember when Liefeldhonestly, my knowledge is based on less-than-half-remembered Wizard magazine articles from 1995, articles about the number of pouches he’s drawn, and the occasional anecdote on ilxthe truly shitheaded moves are bad, the absolute consistency in being a deluded loon are funny
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
hey I guess Churchill finally got his art back from Rob (recently?) sometime in the last 18 years
The Coven: Issue 1, Pages 2-3Pencils: Ian ChurchillInks: Norm RapmundMedia Type: Art BoardDetail: Cane bashes Abel over the head
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
dammit the exclamation mark fell off
Detail: Cane bashes Abel over the head!
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 12 August 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
Those “Shrink!” panels make me feel embarrassed to have ever read a comic book.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Monday, 12 August 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
in 2012, 562 backers pledged $35,343 to help Rob give a free copy of the new Brigade #1 to 100,000 people by October 2013
every single comic that BACKERS and PLEDGES receive will come with a FOIL STAMPED BRIGADE LOGO! Yes, EVERY COPY! Shiny is always better, at least in my house and this will cement YOUR comics that YOU created via this pledge with a signature FOIL LOGO.
on June 8, 2019, Rob updated:
Delayed cover uploading shortly. Book on track to become the single biggest and most important of my career. Period
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link
Only a true wordsmith could conjure up the metaphor of "cementing" a cover with a shiny logo.
― 60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link
as of two days ago, Rob is now "redrawing" this book that ppl gave him thousands of dollars for seven years ago, to remove the characters that he accidentally forgot he doesn't own
what a tragic and unforeseeable delay to this series which he absolutely definitely has completed, with presumably 68 subsequent monthly issues ready to roll out on the regular just as soon as he gets that first giveaway relaunch #1 out, which he IN NO WAY has failed to complete in the year's lead time he gave himself, or in the subsequent six.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
Awesome has a vast library of over 500 characters
nb that in Shrink!, he ran out of ideas for superheroes after four, and just put a regular snowman in the fifth
also that fully half of the superheroes were called Mr. [Something]. golden age vibes or golden retriever brain? u-decide
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link