I don't really "like" middle-aged Hopey, as a person (and I have a sense/recollection that Jaime doesn't, either)
― ass time permits (morrisp), Monday, 4 April 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
Love Bunglers is so good, but This How You See Me might be even better imo
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
Not there's any need to choose!
The whole "actually $400 is highly reasonable" line of throught is making me reevaluate my previously held "no way!" position
as mentioned elsewhere it was all going for a song on comixology(uk) before amazon messed that all up. luckily it's drm free so downloadable and readable anywhere. grabbed the first 14 tpbs for about £20.
me too -- quite possibly on your recommendation! -- are the drm free versions still accessible? would much rather read on chunky
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link
to download you need to go here (your uk account is valid even though it's .com)http://amazon.com/comixology/account
hit the "View your Comixology books" link at the bottom and then the "Backup" tab.
the main site is here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/comixology/
― koogs, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link
awesome thank you!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 April 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link
guys this is dumb
― Stevie D(eux), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 07:13 (two years ago) link
like you can buy all of this content in the form of L&R Library tpbs for less than $100, it’s in a diff order and slightly smaller but I cannot imagine that the original order + slightly bigger is worth an extra $300
― Stevie D(eux), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 07:15 (two years ago) link
The letter columns alone are worth $400
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 08:33 (two years ago) link
Ha, I don't think "But you're buying exactly the same thing in a different format!!!" is a water-holding argument for comics types
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 08:56 (two years ago) link
I don’t know if I could put a dollar value on it, but full size is a big deal. Just compare the (small) New Stories volumes to the larger-format trade reprints of the same material.
― ass time permits (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link
Crikey! I need to get a wriggle on...
Stevie: here are the two post-Love-Bunglers Xaime HCs:
Is This How You See Me?Tonta - these are material that overlapped with each other in the issues, and with Love Bunglers, and with another lite-SF-adventure series that Jaime has on the go these days.
Facsimile editions of the L&R issues themselves probably still the best way to read this material imho, where the separate worlds are rubbing up against each other rather than kept apart.― Ward Fowler, Monday, March 28, 2022 11:42 PM (one week ago)
― Ward Fowler, Monday, March 28, 2022 11:42 PM (one week ago)
I wouldn't say best - if nothing else, the expanded Poison River is a massive upgrade to that story, and it's easier to track the timeline in book form - but having read the Complete/Collection books first, it's definitely both fascinating and enlightening to see the way they piecemealed out the stories, and get a better impression of how much they were working on the fly and reacting to other things in the world or in comics.
And yeah, you get no idea in the books the various ways they play off each other - grabbing a topic or theme or character from the other Bro's work and riffing on it. Izzy appearing as a Poison River background extra in the same issue as she's in Mexico for Flies On The Ceiling! Plus the non-Locas and non-Palomarverse shorts & series feel more essential in situ, letting each artist play out ideas that don't fit in their ongoing work, or the way Beto takes months out from his regular characters to retrench between novels.
― beepy fridges (sic), Friday, 8 April 2022 06:48 (two years ago) link
hm ok damn now I want to re-read L&R in like original comic book/Collection form and see what it's like
― Stevie D(eux), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link
oh man do I have some good news for you!
― beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:31 (two years ago) link
This will get me chased out of this thread, but the earliest stuff is hard for me to roll with - as artists they evolved so much over the years.
I’m more of a Jaime stan and his more “cartoonish) stuff from circa 2000 forward is just magical.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link
(I do read the Gilbert stories in the new issues as they come out, though from issue to issue I couldn’t summarize whatever through line plots exist if my life depended on it.)
Jaime has some odd superhero sideline serial going on which, whatever - I keep thinking that space could better serve Maggie, Ray, Tonta, Frogmouth, etc. (Hopey’s been MIA for a minute, hasn’t she?)
I did consider buying some hardbacks of recent-ish stuff at my LCS but abstained - money is tight and I have this content as single issues already. Someday!
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
Keep meaning to reread by softcover of Wigwam Bam but then remember how much that story freaks me out.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link
certainly the early Jaime stories with tons of cross hatching and walls of text were on the weak side, but it was pretty amazing once he ditched the sci fi elements and started digging into the Locas storyline
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link
Yeah - the sci-fi stuff did nothing for me.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link
The Mechanics stories are wonderful!
― begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
A new PBS doc is coming this fall: https://www.kcet.org/shows/artbound/love-rockets
― HIPPO violation (morrisp), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
woah
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
^This doc premiers tonight - 9pm on KCET in SoCal (no idea if it's national too, or what).
Two-minute preview here (looks like a lot of "flipping through pages" close-ups, but I guess that comes with the territory):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7XbhStOHjs
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
It’s not national broadcast, but will be available on the PBS app.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
better they flip through than "animating" bits.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
I keep getting faked out and thinking this thread is about the band, which, fwiw: classic.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
yeah, i'll watch this
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
I refer the honorable member for Beaux to the front cover of issue #26.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
I'm watching this right now on the PBS app
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link
so this was pretty well done, but it could have easily been twice as long. I would like to have seen more about Gilbert and Palomar, and just more about some of their most famous storylines over the years
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
Definitely could have been longer! Felt kinda rushed. There are some cool/interesting bits… particularly the Bros going panel by panel through a few old favorites (Dennis the Menace and Little Archie). It’s also fun watching Jaime draw & ink.
― Linkin Bio (morrisp), Thursday, 6 October 2022 06:24 (one year ago) link
I haven't watched this yet, but I just noticed it's on YouTube on KCET's channel here.
― ernestp, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link
Amazing! Thank you ernest
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link
Thank you!
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link
It can be watched at the PBS website also.
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link
This YouTube link works for all us non-Americans, tho!
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
thanks for that link!
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link
I don’t like this writer, but in case of interest…
https://www.gq.com/story/love-and-rockets-hernandez-brothers
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
Gosh, it manages to work “Comics Aren’t Just for Kids Anymore,” Watchmen, and TDKR into the opening paragraph…
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
In Ep. 5 of Hulu sitcom This Fool, the main character wears an L&R #24 T-shirt. (I see Fanta has it in stock… maybe I’ll try to pick it up for myself in their Black Friday sale)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link
there's also a L&R #29 shirt! (with L&R40 logo...)
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 18 November 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link
I got a cheap bootleg of that tee off Redbubble as postage for the Fanta one to the UK was like $50. It's p bad, all the audience are peeling off, but I wore it to a comics convention I took my daughter to last weekend and I got many compliments (and everyone asked if it was vintage, and I replied, 'No, it's just shit')
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 18 November 2022 09:52 (one year ago) link
and here’s the creator / star of This Fool interviewing all three Brothers last month:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNuf67jzL4s
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 18 November 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link
love that #24 shirt, incredibly iconic image. that said I'm wondering it's too obvious to wear or should I just say fuck it
― Nhex, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
xp Thanks, sic – will check that out.
Yeah, I'm not traditionally a big wearer of shirts w/indicia... but lately (maybe as a "getting older" thing), I've been into the idea... searching online for band T-shirts and stuff. (Pretty sure this is my actual shirt that was stolen from a college dorm locker room c. 1994, lol)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
i own and wear the #24 shirt on the regular
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link
"This Fool" is pretty great btw
I also have a version of that shirt that I wear all the time
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
New York Times 40th anniversary profile:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/19/books/love-and-rockets-hernandez-bros.html
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/11/10/books/00Hernandezbrothers-topart/00Hernandezbrothers-topart-superJumbo.jpg
...and the First Fifty box is $80 off plus free US shipping today
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
The cartoonist Adrian Tomine discovered the series in 1987, after reading “Death of Speedy Ortiz,” a story by Jaime about a Hoppers local who becomes embroiled in a gang war. “I thought it was the greatest comic I’d ever seen,” he said.Me too!
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link
(well, actually a few years later, when I came across Vol. 7 of the collections)
― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link