Lucifer

The epic Heaven & Hell stuff blurs together a bit, but some of the stories have been just been brilliant. I especially remember storyline with the creature who spins emotions into glass and the 50th issue 'origin' story.

holy shit guys there's a lucifer tv show on fox and he is solving crimes

DC/WB has this weird thing where, with very few exceptions, they don't give one solitary fuck about adaptations that maintain the integrity of the original comic. And people who pay to adapt DC properties have this weird thing where they don't realize that they could have saved their money and just created a new show/movie rather than linking it to a relatively obscure DC property which it no longer resembles and which pre-existing fans will rail against for not even trying.

In short: fuck this show.

it exactly follows the elementary/mentalist/etc formula of "quirky english dude teams with attractive detective to solve crimes in an unconventional manner." i'm kinda fascinated. how many people signed off on this and wrote checks and shit? dozens right? and no one was like "why are we doing this?" it's not even like the english guy is that quirky or crime solving manner is that unconventional.

Shouldn't Lucifer be encouraging crimes rather than solving them? I mean, I assume everyone's made that comment, but intrigued to know how corny the lampshade is for it.

Or is he solving God's crimes of goodness? That might be a show.

Oh wait it was the evil Quantum Leapers. Anyway.

I had Miranda on for some reason the other day and saw that Lucifer and her love interest were the same actor. Thought I'd seen him somewhere.

Shouldn't Lucifer be encouraging crimes rather than solving them? I mean, I assume everyone's made that comment, but intrigued to know how corny the lampshade is for it.

I haven't seen the show, but presumably it has at least that much in common with the comic that Lucy has abdicated his throne and doesn't give a fuck about his role in God's grand scheme anymore?

Yeah angels are trying to talk him into taking the role back.
& he appears to be humanising thanks to his interaction with humans.
Been a while since I read the comic so not remembering what happens in that exactly

from what i could tell from the first episode he wants to solve crimes because he wants evildoers to suffer the depredations of the temporal criminal justice system

I've actually been watching and quite enjoying it - at least compared to the horror that is the current season of Arrow, the distinctly underwhelming Supergirl and the very disappointing Legends of Tomorrow.

Yes, he's involved with crimes because he wants bad people to be actually punished; his logic is that's what his job was before so he should be still doing it.

I made it through the first half of the LoT pilot - I *want* it to be good, but it just isn't. The Hawk characters are just *awful*.

Flash is just kind of okay. It's fun but I've never seen an episode that made me want binge it, or tune in the following week.

The CW DC shows are all dumb, fun junk. I watch them all, but they could be cancelled tomorrow and I'd be like "oh, well".

I loved the first season of Flash and really wanted to like the second but it just isn't nearly in the same league. The Earth-2 stuff has been REALLY dull. The Turtle should have been great but... wasn't. Give me Gorilla City FFS.

All that Legends of Tomorrow really has going for it is the Captain Cold/Heatwave buddy comedy. Also Martin Stein is pretty funny.

Arrow is unremittingly bad this season, the Damien Darhk stuff is dreadful and the Hilary plot has just been totally pointless (given it looks like it's going to be completely undone by season end). Flashback this season is very poor.

Supergirl has potentially a goofy Silver Age/Romance Comics vibe to it but gets bogged down in FAMILY OH MY FAMILY shit far too freely. The Maxwell Lord stuff is just confused and too many great opportunities - bearing in mind this is a season which has had Red Tornado, Bizarro and a rip-off of For The Man Who Has Everything - have just been utterly wasted.

All of which, unexpectedly, makes iZombie probably the most successful DC show on at the moment. It's more than a little bloated; the main core plot could have been dispatched in 5-6 episodes but is still dragging on. It is, however, more often than not FUN (even if not that well acted, although probably at least as well as its peers).

Fuck me, I watch a lot of crappy telly.

I agree that the Hawks suck, but LoT does get somewhat better after the first couple of episodes, when it starts focusing more on the other characters. The dialogue is still as corny as in Flash and Arrow, and it doesn't have the silver age shenanigans that make Flash the most watchable of these series, but it's okay. I wouldn't mind it focusing just on Canary, Cold, and Heatwave, those three actors are clearly having the most fun with their roles. Stein does some decent Picard style scenery chewing, and the other three plus Savage are meh, though not actively annoying like the Hawks.

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It doesn't cease to amaze me how bad the writers of these DC shows are at writing normal human dialogue. I'm not expecting them to be Tarantino or anything, but when you compare them to how much more natural the characters in the Marvel TV shows sound, the difference is huge. Though I guess the Marvel shows have better actors too.

Though it can't be just the acting, since the Rip Hunter guy was perfectly fine in Dr. Who, as is the Jay Garrick dude in Masters of Sex.

I'm waiting to see a compilation of clips from the CW shows where two people are engaged in a conversation only to be joined by someone rounding the corner and seamlessly joining in as if they'd been there the whole time. I swezr this happens in every episode.

iZombie is a different class. Only watched the first three but it totally hits that Buffy/Veronica M vibe.

Agent Carter (or at least the 2nd season) I think is a genuinely very good (as opposed to "good enough") show.