Rolling Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS "I don't get it thread"

Bascically to keep me from becoming an annoying jerkass on the real thread.

You can play too!

yeah dude don't jerk ass.

slow and steady wins the race of ass

ASS PUNK

lol j/k daft punk are good really

72. AMY WINEHOUSE Back to Black (2006) [223 points, 9 votes]

i just

you've got nothing on my reaction if sound of silver wins

hahaha

what is a rachel stevens btw

she is an englishes

also proof that ILX prefers throwaway pop to serious art AMIRITE LETS HAVE A DEBATE

serious art is shitty and no fun

FUCK ART LETS uh pop i guess?

POP POP POP POPPITY POPPAGE

hey now

this is a good thread. a clean thread. a good clean thread.

i will go back and become retroactively confused with the earlier results once todays wind down, but now im LIVEBLOGGIN YALL

i also dont understand why people hate 808's and heartbreak so much, i like it and think that it is fun.

this winehouse thing is kinda right up there with my hall and oates issues of the past week, i really cant comprehend the enjoyment of some things on any level

i mean throw in people repping for "walking on sunshine" and ill just give up and cut my ears off or something

SPOILER ALERT: i dont think that belphegor - bondage goat zombie is going to make the cut at this point.

;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Bc5K9LMmk

BUT IT CAN STILL MAKE THE ITR COUNTDOWN

ALONG WITH UL.VER

(WHICH WAS MY #1 OBV)

YEAH THIS IS KICKASS JJ \m/ \m/

ROAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHH ALSO HAIL SATAN

i also dont understand why people hate 808's and heartbreak so much, i like it and think that it is fun.

Because people are too invested in the narrative of Kanye as an unlikable, egomaniacal jackass to get into that album, which has a lot of his best production and some really fantastic to-my-ears intentionally-self-deflating songs (like, anyone listening to "Paranoid" or "Robocop" or "Heartless" with the mindframe that we are supposed to come away from it agreeing with the point of view presented by the songs consumes and processes art in a manner completely foreign to me).

Rachel is/was the hot one from S Club 7

Hannah > Tina > Rachel > Jo.

Also 808 is just 'ooooh poor me, my life of lots of money and attractive women is sooo hard. pity me. i said pity me! btw brb, gonna go do loads of coke and sleep with bald girls, but don't you stop feeling sorry for me while i'm away. also i r above rapping now.'

so basically your argument is "back in the pigeonhole I have created for you, Kanye"

man i think this once again gets back to the whole thing we talked about uh somewhere in another thread about making the basic assumption of characters in songs vs. taking songs as statements of purpose/reality. like really to me (and uh dont get me wrong i am pretty into a good lyric) at the end of the day i cant really work a lot of the actual person into the song persona because that isnt how songs work for me.

however i am pretty sure the dude in belphegor does in fact have a goat zombie that he uses for S&M gratification

THAT SHIT IS JUST TOO REAL FOR YOU SQUARES TO HANDLE

It really isn't. I am not one of these people who got pissy at Andre 3000 for not rapping as much. But Kanye doing it, and then 'returning' as if rap 'needed' him is just eurgh. Like the genre couldn't survive with one dude going off singing and being a dickhole. And again, its really not hard to make an album to get people to sympathise with you and yr personal problems, just don't act like a dick about it ("my friend should me pictures of his kids, and all i could show him was my brand new cribs" being a way to start an album at the biggest time of foreclosures in decades is a p big dick move imo. etc etc etc)

Beats are nice tho.

man i think this once again gets back to the whole thing we talked about uh somewhere in another thread about making the basic assumption of characters in songs vs. taking songs as statements of purpose/reality. like really to me (and uh dont get me wrong i am pretty into a good lyric) at the end of the day i cant really work a lot of the actual person into the song persona because that isnt how songs work for me.

Yeah, that's the thing; maybe I am approaching this differently not because I'm a performer but because of the type of performing I do and the way I write, but even things that could conceivably be linked to me and my life aren't actually me when I am singing about them; like, I wrote a song about how I wanted to kill myself after my brother died, but when I sing that song I am not actually saying "btw I want to kill myself because my brother died". I am telling a story based on some emotions and experiences from my past, but the voice is a character.

Now, there are certain things that come through when you adopt certain characters that may come across as repellent, which may be your intent but may not be, which is why the whole n-word thread happened; there are certain topics that you need to be sure that your communication is on point otherwise all you will do is piss people off and brand yourself an asshole. (Arguably EVERY topic you write about should have this same attention to communication, if only to make sure that you interrogate your work from several angles and are okay with the differing responses it may evoke; "careful communication" does not equal "this song means this and this only and I will spell it out in unambiguous detail".)

xp: well Kanye's "return to rap" is the real point where his ego steps in; I see it less in his actual work and more in what projects he decides to do next and how he promotes himself. Also, to run off of that example, I don't think the timing of the financial collapse was really his fault or undermines the point made by that line, which is that Kanye-the-character is upset that he sacrificed making time for personal relationship and starting a family for acquiring wealth and that he feels empty inside in a manner that, to his eyes, his friend with a family does not.

ok yeah i get that. maybe i should add '+ half the lyrics are super embarrassing and he needs to go back to getting ghostwriters to help him.'

tried clicking on a random song and got HOW COULD YALL BE SO DR EVIL proving my point.

Kanye has been the king of embarrassing lyrics for his entire career with perhaps the sole exceptions of "Gold Digger" and "Love Lockdown" so I'm not overly mad at him for that.

oh and "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" too

yeah but... aw hell i am just losing this here. I dunno, I guess his stupid lyrics used to have some charm that he started losing on Graduation for me (see stronger or drunk & hot girls or the chris martin one or the one about wanting to bum jay z or whatever) and mix in his whiny singing and i just stopped caring.

feel free to carry on w/this discussion, but i am going to post my lists of:

THINGS I HAVE NEVER HEARD FROM ENTRIES 100-68

98. CAMERA OBSCURA Let's Get Out of This Country (2006) [183 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote]
97. RHYTHM & SOUND See Mi Yah (2005) [185 points, 9 votes]
96. CARIBOU Andorra (2007) [187.5 points, 9 votes]
93. NE-YO Year of the Gentleman (2008) [195.5 points, 10 votes]
91. LOS CAMPESINOS! Hold On Now, Youngster... (2008) [197 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
89. VITALIC OK Cowboy (2005) [200 points, 10 votes]
88. ART BRUT Bang Bang Rock & Roll (2005) [200.5 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]
84. FUCK BUTTONS Tarot Sport (2009) [206 points, 12 votes]
81. DJ SPRINKLES Midtown 120 Blues (2009) [208.5 points, 10 points]
79. WOLF PARADE Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005) [210.5 points, 10 votes]
76. ELLEN ALLIEN & APPARAT Orchestra of Bubbles (2006) [212 points, 12 votes]
73. VON SUDENFELD Tromatic Reflexxions (2007) [220.5 points, 9 votes]
71. RACHEL STEVENS Come and Get It (2005) [223 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote]
69. KELLEY POLAR Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens (2005) [225.5 points, 11 votes]

THINGS I ACTIVELY DISLIKE IN PLACES 100-68
78. MADONNA Confessions on a Dance Floor (2005) [211 points, 8 votes]
72. AMY WINEHOUSE Back to Black (2006) [223 points, 9 votes]

this is why polls on ILM make me normally feel like a moron

dude okay I don't know if you will dig them but SRSLY CHECK OUT VITALIC AND ELLEN ALLIEN/APPARAT

also Ne-Yo is like about the only current pop r&b dude worth a damn IMO

toss me some track names and i will throw them in the old youtube wayback machine

might as well not link to them here because lol iphone doesnt recognize youtube links on ILX

lol this thread! i'm not even gonna check that ilm thread anymore

hahahaha ok i lied about vitalic, if someone had said "you know, the video with slow motion dogs and lasers" i would have known the error of my ways.

"Poney no 1 (slomo dogs and lasers remix)" is ok i guess, this "la rock 01" song is way weirder and more appealing to me, i feel like it could have crawled out of some weird pocket of the early 90s TC industrial rave scene, that wheedly high pitched wiggle thing is awesome. "My friend Dario" is fucking unmitigated electroclash garbage tho, gross.

actually musically the song is ok, but somebody needs to shut that singing lady the fuck up.

ellen allien & apparat - listening to "Way Out" and uh. a little bored. not really down with floaty mushy vocals over the top of my techno i guess? def way more interested in vitalic based on what ive heard so far.

ok in the home stretch of "way out" and now ive moved on to hating the singer (not as much as that vitalic thing, but still. a lot.)

ok way more into "Leave Me Alone", some really odd interesting things going on here, it sounds all lurching and broken, dude singing also works much better for me, like a creaky new order vocal thing going on. i really like this a lot actually.

i dont really need to hear any more kylie minogue, i just dont get it and i never will and thats fine

this warpaint thing (undertow) seems to be a bunch of fiddly nonsense, messy oververbed and look at me! lazy cant be bothered attitude, dont like stuff like this at all really. second song now (majesty) and actually thats too soft, i really fucking hate this.

sun araw - started with ma holo and man i am tired of endless loopy nonsense as a thing i guess idk if its just not getting high anymore or what but i am done w/this stuff. beat cop now and unless this goes somewhere soon before we all die, i just dont have any idea what this is supposed to do for me, it just sounds like unfun dub with half the ideas and several decades late.

xpost: sorry was out selling stuff - have not seen mother of fire, but could see totally digging them from that description, will investigate

i know im coming over as all crotchety old man on this thread, but i actually really enjoy these end of year things because i kinda live in a cave outside of my weirdo things im way too into musically these days so like 90% of these lists are full of things ive never ever heard. and despite being a little bitch about most of it so far, no offense intended to peeps that dig this stuff, my ears are as wrong as anybody elses imo.

bump to just express my bafflement about taylor swift making the top twenty when she is absolutely unredeemable in every way and completely talentless and awful.

I'm not even sure my ballot was counted. There's literally SO MUCH on here I don't even know, but I thought I'd voted for fairly obvious stuff. Oh well.

mother of fire, you say? sounds like something i should check out

so no age - this is like time traveling back to 5 years ago at a load records showcase at big vs bar, but scrape off all the sweat and turn things down to a nice manageable level and for gods sake lets tune those guitars and shout less. in other words this sounds like la bowlderizing a providence time capsule for the kids. barf.

gayngs - this has some promise maybe, glitcho stuff at the beginning but now theres smooth jazz saxophone and breathy singing and fucking hell is this the year of reverb or what? and now thanks to wikipedia i realize that these dudes are from minneapolis, and some of them are friends of mine. sorry. and this cover of godley and creme fucking blows and makes me irrationally angry.

Hello JJ. I would like to concur with you on a few things.

guys i am srsly very very sorry about gayngs. knocing some folks off the christmas card list for making that bullshit.

*burns doomtree shirt in protest*

hahaha

i am really happy that sade didnt make the list

if only her supporters had all done a get out the vote campaign with their elderly aunts this could have all turned out so differently

I don't really get warpaint either. I've seen 'em live too. they've got poise, but music is eh.

I want to like these new puritans too but something is preventing me.

that's an excellent no age summation

mother of fire, you say? sounds like something i should check out

― goole, Thursday, February 3, 2011 11:14 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you should!

i will! next week!

wait where when now

I love looking at threads like these because I feel like I totally enter into foreign territory. Like, how bad is it that I almost never recognize any of the artist names, either. I'm going to try to blame nursing school, but seriously only recognizing, like, 4 names at all? (And one of them is Kylie Minogue?! UH)

going to need this again i think

this selena gomez thing is ok in a "didnt madonna already do that "Music" album a while ago" way. actually i like it less and less the more i hear. her voice is boring to me, altho proficient i guess.

does anything ever actually happen in this gang gang dance song

ok it isnt bad per se but it is about 8 minutes too long

haha yeah, from what ppl said on the thread it basically functions as a prelude on the album?

i already said what i had to say about this pistol annies nonsense on the main thread

i am shocked to discover that i think i actually like this tune-yards thingy, the arpeggiated vocal stuff is interesting - this sounds like somebody that listened to a lot of the right peter gabriel records but maybe took some of the vocal tricks a little too much to heart.

oh hey we're back

anyway I sent you a tune-yards song I like via Spotify; overall I definitely ADMIRE her stuff more than I actually LIKE it

i'd trash the tune-yards song here but flopson summed it up pretty well on the results thread

sooooo lana del rey

i can only assume that the voters for that have never heard the other million singers throughout time that have done that sort of thing better and the other 10 million songs that have better lyrics huh

"so imagine that theres this edith piaf song, but she cant sing and doesnt seem to care very much about being there, but wait also the lyrics were written by an idiot."

haha OTM

personally I blame the decline of music education

literally the only appealing thing about "Video Games" is changing the lyrics to the opening verse

I am still super fond of:

Ass
Titties
Ass and titties
Video gaaaames

i would like to play this game but i would have to listen to the song a second time

no, you just need to know the cadence:

1 e and a 2 and
1 e and a 2 and a
video games

anything you can bend around that rhythm works

Dancin' on the dance floor
Girl, it's you that i adore
video gaaaaames

Rip your head off
Shit down your neck
Video gaaaaames

Laugh like a motherfucker
Laugh like a motherfucker
Video gaaaaames

thank god i'm not the only one

wait am i doing the rhythm wrong then

ha no, I am taking liberties

Easily I approach
the microphone because I
video gaaaaames

yessssssssssss

You drag me across
Your open wounds
Video gaaaaames

i have a hot chick
waiting for me in my bed
video gaaaaaames

Swing low, sweet chariot
coming for to carry my
video gaaaaaaaaaaames

maura had a great one, too:

Sittin' in the back seat
Kickin' in the front seat
Video gaaaaaaames

I don't mind stealing bread
from the mouths of decaaaadence
video gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames

Bosses do what they want
Suckas do what they can
AHH-UHH-AHH-UHH-UAHHH!
Video Games...

why do people, people i like and enjoy and respect even, continue to want to listen to john maus

it is so baffling to me, i cant even come up with pithy slanderous things to say, the closest i have come is calling him a third rate xiu xiu without the catchy tunes which is sonically wrong but feels right somehow

there are some similarities between maus and xiu xiu -- you are not crazy

also dan in case you missed it plz note how proud i am of realizing that death grips - takyon sounds like the main dude is chuck mosely from faith no more

haha I did see that, it was actually the first thing that made me want to hear Death Grips

the first thing that made me want to hear Death Grips was the fact that Zach Hill was involved.

btw just fair warning, I will be putting anyone who talks shit about Shabazz Palaces on blast

fyi