i mean, an article written by the new bittman
― 乒乓, Monday, 13 May 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
he is selling a diet book with a special name that he claims is "his" diet -- isn't that enough?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
doesn't really raise any red flags for me
― 乒乓, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah see i guess i feel that's gross -- i can stand personal branding! it grosses me out.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
UGHi meant can'tmy outrage (i'm not really that outraged) has made me typo crazy
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
i guess because i believe in his general philosophies w/r/t food i don't mind that he's building his personal brand
― 乒乓, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
i agree with him and i still think it's grosshe has become a pontificator, and i preferred him as an educator. i realize it's a fine line, but still somehow in my mind he has crossed it
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
that's probably true but i think the enemies on the other side of the line (corporate food laboratories and taste labs and advertising and etc. etc. etc.) are so numerous, that....
― 乒乓, Monday, 13 May 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
you're totally right -- i realize not everyone would feel the same waycooking is a basic life skill, imo, and treating it like a program/commodifying it is kind of antithetical to thatagain, imowhat could a businessman ever want more, etc. i'm a product of my times! it's inescapable.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 13 May 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
How to Cook Everything was the first cookbook that made me feel like I could actually succeed at cooking, and it opened me up to a lot of foods -- it's like the ipad/iphone of cooking in terms of user-friendliness compared to most of the other available stuff, at least when it came out.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 May 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, it's not like Julia Child wasn't heavy into personal branding, there just wasn't that term for it yet.
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 May 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Oh hell no you are not equating MB and JC!
― quincie, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
Rachel Ray or Paula Deen, yes. But not Julia Child.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
I hate Bittman too.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
I'm trying to imagine Julia Child or James Beard "branding" stuff and failing. Links required for proof. The only similar thing I recall from that era is Graham Kerr's spurtle.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
i do kind of avoid reading bittman's stuff now that he's less of a cooking writer. not having those weekly minimalist columns let him wander too far into dr. oz land. i still like his videos when he does them.
― circles, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
His minimalist stuff is great; the title of his new "work" has made him my enemy 4evah
― quincie, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
Like I will not even type it out here because it makes me spit.
― Jaq, Monday, May 13, 2013 11:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it seems kind of naive to think that a chef with a long-running television series and a number of bestselling cookbooks with her name directly in the title is not engaging in branding
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
A cookbook or tv show is not a line of cookware, patented spices, tableware, appliances, or "must-have" utensils.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah but the ". . . lose weight in X days" uuuuuuugh fuck that dude.
― quincie, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
― Jaq, Monday, May 13, 2013 11:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Bittman has these things?
― THIS IS NOT A BENGHAZI T-SHIRT (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
The Dr. Oz relationship is omg u dead to me dood
― quincie, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
Telling me how to cook something is so very different from telling me what to eat. I'll stick with Harold McGee for now.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
It's only a matter of time before Bittman has a line of supplements.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
Or he jumps on to homeopathy.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
i'd like to know why no one (no public figure at least) seems to be satisfied/gratified by simply teaching people how to cookthat's what he used to do really well, and in a way that wasn't insultingi no longer care what he says about anything because he's a pontificating weight loss salesman instead of a teacher
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
Mark Bittman's fearmongering is starting to remind me of Glenn Beck -- what's wrong with this guy?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
He's the worst and I hate myself every time I'm baited into clicking one of his articles.
― Jeff, Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
What now? I haven't been paying attention.
― Jaq, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
Chicken. Fucking chicken.
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
i.e. DON'T EAT IT U ASKING FOR DEATH
It's just that he's always Mr Everything Is Killing Us and it's really tiresome! I understand that there are battles to be fought, but at this point it just seems like he is riling people up for the hell of it. I'm bored/somewhat affronted by activism of this nature, I guess.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
It really is a shame, because his mac and cheese recipe walked the spouse through making his very first roux, and it all came out great and delicious, and he (spouse) felt very happy and accomplished and no longer intimidated by roux/cheese sauce that isn't microwaved Velveeta.
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
He's definitely not a teacher anymore. He's a pontificator, and the worst kind! Blech.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
Like, "being angry about Monsanto" is not a pastime, and I think he is feeding some people's hunger for outrage-as-pastime, which is both boring and offensive imo.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
He could be teaching people to feed themselves and their families.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
Which he used to be so good at doing! And I really don't understand why the NYT feels they need a sub-Michael Pollan pontificator when they already have Michael Pollan pontificating.
― quincie, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Ugh. Thx for the update, what a shame.
― Jaq, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
chicken is awesome, buzz off bittman
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
What if chicken blood gets on my lettuce in a shopping bag? What if someone else’s chicken contaminates my apples on a supermarket conveyor belt?
then you're a dummy
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
I don't mind his cookbook but I'll be damned if I choose to read his ideas about food policy.
― mh, Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
file under 'nope'
Op-Ed | Mark BittmanYears Ending in 4
Disaster has been well represented in years ending in “4,” but probably not disproportionately so. Does history give us reason to be optimistic about 2014?
― j., Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
...
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link
geez louise, what's wrong with him?!
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link
That this man, instead of me, got to spend time with Marcella Hazan in her final weeks is just so wrong!
― quincie, Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link