Or no, I guess the interviewee is someone else.
The main reason I decided to make an indie game was a well-known movie about the indie scene where now well-established developers posed themselves as artists.
― jmm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link
this indie developer sounds like a treat
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
http://the-toast.net/2014/09/11/im-gamer/
― goole, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
loooooooool
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.gaming-age.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dew-doritos-xbox-one.jpg
diabetes?
― ineverenjoyyourcontributions (stevie), Friday, 12 September 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
I've had diarrhea before, Xbox
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 12 September 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
The ultimate image of loneliness.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 12 September 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
GamerGate is still happening
I mean, lol
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
How do they manage to keep a fake scandal going when for weeks there's been nothing new to say about it?
― jmm, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link
It's the new hot MMO.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
Apparently WikiLeaks has now picked a side.
― jmm, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
I think at this point it's worth answering this thread's titular question with "no, casual racism and sexism are no more acceptable in video games and their attendant conversations and communities than anywhere else, and the people flinging shit and protecting their right to bigoted animus in games are either impressionable teenagers without much emotional intelligence or garbage adults worthy only of exposure, scorn, ridicule, and censure."
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
they're either shitty kids or shitty adults, got it.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
so the answer is actually "because a lot of gamers suck, also welcome to our racist/sexist world"?
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
*thread question was "accepted" not "acceptable"
― anonanon, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
also the original question wasn't a yes/no question
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
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Yeah I know but in light of the gamergate dustup the thread title was feeling increasingly fatalistic
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link
there's a lot of people in video games who have audiences who have taken this opportunity to be crystal clear with those audiences how unequivocally not OK harassment and bigotry is and even if it's a drop in the bucket in our shitty world I don't want to cede the whole territory to the shitlords
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
misread that as "gamergate dubstep" and was irrationally happy for a second
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
instead of struggling with that "they're not alllllll bad" line i prefer the "gamer as an identity is dead" line that's popped up out of all this. i can't take "the gaming community" seriously enough as a concept anymore to care about the microcosms within it, i'd rather just separate "self-proclaimed gamers who won't shut up" into their own microcosm within the general population
nb i haven't read any of this thread or any of those articles i'm just bored
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
I actually know this - Milo Yiannopoulos, who wrote one of the Breitbart pieces upthread, rang iFred, the charity that Zoe Quinn mentioned on her site, saying "Can you confirm how much money you're getting from Depression Quest?" and the charity said "We have no record of that" and then he was carried around shoulder high because Journalism.
And then Zoe Quinn said "Yes, I paid that money to iFred personally and will talk to them" and iFred said "Yes, she's talked to us and our records confirm that", and then the GamerGaters largely peeled off leaving only a layer asking for payment details and dates and asking to speak to the legal department, while iFred very politely says "We have only one full time paid member of staff and we're trying to actually do policy work on depression, Please Fuck Off"
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
lol/sigh
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
the other day i saw a very convincing long-form multi-step jpg diagram of how anita sarkeesian was never harassed out of her home and that milo dude's reportage was strongly relied upon.
― goole, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
We need to find some way to etch those jpgs on to plexiglass, or future generations will never understand what this is about.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
You could seriously get a poll's worth of options of, what is the dumbest recurrent line used by shithead gamers with regard to Gamergate, I am leaning towards "...and she has never addressed the VERY SERIOUS objections made to the ACCURACY of her BULLSHIT VIDEOS which spew LIES" although the old goldie where letting it be known that you're being criminally harassed is a classic PLOY to get ATTENTION for your AGENDA. Sigh. I mustn't read the comments, I mustn't read the comments...
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link
here we go guys
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/512292578042347520https://twitter.com/Nero/status/512331257238519810
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
I'm not going to click on beetbort, what does the article say?
― โ-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
not posted yet i don't think
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link
it's up - tried to read it, laughed, closed window.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
For his professional work he's @Nero but when he wants to get personal he uses @Caligula.
Makes perfect sense.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
it is? are you going off that pinned tweet from a few days ago?
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
first line: "The video game community is perhaps the most inclusive, gender neutral and colourblind on the internet."
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e9/e9a2295b3db9b45c8f5484a09033c1c71cf88e3375bb7ff60456bc81c29a4e04.jpg
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
i think this is it: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 2mSo you know that thing JournoList where journos were colluding behind the scenes? Nothing like that would happen in games right? #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 45sEXPOSED: The secret mailing list of the gaming journalism elite http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite โฆ #GamerGate
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
Haha come on
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
kinda reminds me of that whole thing w/ left wing american pundits? i kinda don't remember who was involved now. weigel maybe? i think it was called Journolist?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or high
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
This is literally "Games Journalist aren't eremites"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
if i'm being sarcastic about this listserv reminding me of another listserv? idk, what's the sarcasm?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
andrew farrell's post two before yours
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
oh lol i missed his post
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
only way this really measures up is if they find out that eurogamer's "gamer community correspondent" who was supposedly sympathetic to the 'gamers' was participating on this list
― Mordy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Brietbart and Gamergaters is such a natural alliance, excited for Jim Hoft's future involvement
― anonanon, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
so the angle is that anyone who was not actively defaming zoe quinn was "supporting" her, awesome
― โ-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
I really don't think "like-minded journalists have a mailing list" is scandal-worthy
This is rather blatantly "our side got caught out in IRC chats so let's rail on something innocuous and make soft-thinking people believe they're the same thing #gamergate #btwiamafuckstick"
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 6mIncontrovertible proof of behind-the-scenes collusion, co-ordination and collaboration, for political ends, by game journalists. #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 3mIf you have more information about GameJournoPros, contact me. m✧✧✧@yiannopou✧✧✧.n✧✧ #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 3mSupposed journalistic "competitors" are colluding behind the scenes to influence the news agenda. Readers are in the dark. #GamerGate
Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero ยท 48sHere's what happened the last time high-level journalists secretly colluded with one another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList #GamerGate
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
all of the quotes he pulled sound totally reasonable and humane and his language is totally stretched out and panicky
― goole, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
it's as if dude has never heard of trade associations or anything of the sort
― โ-B (mh), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Apart from anything else, this will inflate the egos of the GGs who can be convinced that this thing they're involved in is actually something important, like the talk that's been going around of calling in the FBI to investigate Anita Sarkeesian under RICO, because they heard of RICO once.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me31aq3Mjr1qacv60o1_1280.jpg
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link