oh man he made the full transcript of the interview available
http://antinegationism.tumblr.com/post/100178126531/transcript-from-that-rather-uneven-buzzfeed-article
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
"The deontological problem of a false idol struck us as more grievous than the deontological problem of potential for a false idol to be harassed."
― jmm, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
"I wouldn't call it acrimonious."
hahaha
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
... he actually thinks this bolsters his case, rather than making him sound like a total psycho:
I consulted with a bunch of people — over a dozen [which approaches statistical significance]. Most of them women, most of them in tech fields, a few in games. We thought through the risks, the potential fallout, I made flowcharts of probabilities and possibilities. We debated, we considered, and we came to consensus. From strictly utilitarian terms, the probabilistic risk she posed to those around her was greater than the probabilistic risk posed by the situation turning toxic. The deontological problem of a false idol struck us as more grievous than the deontological problem of potential for a false idol to be harassed.
― Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn’t call it acrimonious. The tone of thezoepost is there primarily to keep things entertaining. There’s no point to writing something no one will read. But, for reasons I won’t get into, angry isn’t really a thing for me. I certainly felt betrayed and aghast for about a week. But there’s wasn’t really any emotional anchor to keep me feeling those things much later than that. It was too surreal — to have been dating this person with this relentless drive to present themselves as some paragon of virtue, committed to ethics and behaving with utmost empathy — only to find out that this was entirely an act. I felt betrayed at first, but, couldn’t really keep up feeling betrayed by someone I never really knew.
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
and yeah, that deontological problem sentence screamed right off the page didn't it
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
no rules no ref
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
welp https://twitter.com/djperry1973/status/522848518059225089
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
[which approaches statistical significance]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
he believes he conducted some sort of empirical study?
From strictly utilitarian terms, the probabilistic risk she posed to those around her was greater than the probabilistic risk posed by the situation turning toxic.
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
fact
― 💪😈⚠ (DJP), Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:39 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
:)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:41 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
[15 is the statistical significance number]
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
ohhhh DJP you silly guy
― Nhex, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
[69 is the statistical sex number]
even better how it's in square brackets "here's something I wish I had said, this will make me look EVEN MORE CLEVER!!!"
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
30 is better but let's talk about census-balanced sampling
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
how is it possible that this dude has been walking around talking like this for 20 something years and hasn't realized what a windbag he is
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/jbasher/status/522851479800283136
uhh
"we chatted on Skype for 2.5 hours, same questions. here, similar syntax, less academic, answers significantly different"
― goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
just lol
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
this dude is amazing, by which I mean it's amazing he has friends
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
xxxpost
because their are ~cultures~ in which this particular brand of batshit in hyper-rational cosplay is celebrated.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/PLingGamer
― goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
i spent a lot of time with guys who would write shit like this and came perilously close to being a guy who would write shit like this and i kinda hate shit like this.
Yep, same. I worry I still slip into it on occasion. He has to be a CS/philosophy double major or something.
― jmm, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
the only thing wrong with that sam biddle twitter convo is that no one made use of the @untag_me bot when the original dude wanted out of the conversation.
― you little affront to god (reddening), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
and he claims SHE's the crazy one, but something something reliable narrator
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
at this point what we've got here is basically The Iliad is how I break it down to an extent
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
slate tech bod getting philosophical on us
https://twitter.com/AuerbachKeller/status/522840924460560384
― goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
"Sam Biddle is precisely the embodiment of journalistic evil."
― example (crüt), Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
hate to bring it down in here but one of these guys seems to be in a legit bad place
https://twitter.com/GRIMACHU
― goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
eh, fuck him
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
reactionary hate masquerading as radical openness is nothing new
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
like think about the id Software guys like Carmack and Romero, that was late 80s/early 90s but tell me those guys wouldn't have bought into this "Suck it feminists" stuff? Duke Nukem? Leisure Suit Larry?
id didn't do those #idgate
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
Those were other examples not examples of Id games. Read Masters of Doom by David Kushner id was a total a hole macho nerd shithole
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
yeah were the massive boobs on those hell monsters really necessary
jk i don't doubt it
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0GixtpCIAAoZS3.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
say what
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
Exactly.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
those are definitely words
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
That's one of the guys interviewed by he Escapist (though they have since pulled it due to evidence of harassment, so...). He knows what he's talking about.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Also the guy in the legit bad place, above.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
Permanent Revolution @GRIMACHU · 3h 3 hours agoYou're like the people who killed Soho. One cafe at a time.
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link
there's some kind of rule that you can't go more than 1/2way thru any tweet thread before running into some element of the far far right
https://twitter.com/MSamenfink/status/522833776724819968
― goole, Thursday, 16 October 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hearing this to the tune of "One" by Three Dog Night
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 16 October 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
I went to quakecon, basically id software central, twice back in my fps-loving nerdo days (1995-2003ish rip). There was def a booth babe style thing going on and not a lot of outright misogyny I encountered because there were just so few women there. There was a prominent clan (that being the beginning days of gaming "clans") that was all-woman and playing on their gaming server was super fun but I think all the original members ditched out eventually.
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
also, the suburbs of Dallas are not good
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 16 October 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
lol i wanted to look into hatred and
http://s8.postimg.org/wovjw8wrp/grisly.png
that's the whole section
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 16 October 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
grimachu designed a card game wherein the players are hentai tentacle monsters and compete to rape people, unless im missing something
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 17 October 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link