xp, that was what i meant!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 16 October 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
RIP.... neogaf?
― ||||||||, Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
ffs
Prolific and popular gaming forum NeoGAF (formerly the Gaming Age Forums, founded in 2006) is currently offline at the time of writing, and it might not be coming back this time.In the wake of some very serious allegations of sexual harassment (captured here on Imgur, with names removed) levelled at site-owner Tyler 'Evilore' Malka, at least 11 site administration and moderation staff have stepped up and walked out in a show of solidarity with the accuser, taking many of the site's regular users with them.The allegations against Malka carry additional weight, due to claims from the man himself, posted on NeoGAF back in 2012 that he has treated women in a far less-than-gentlemanly fashion. Joining the admin/moderation stuff, NeoGAF's community is scattering far and wide, with some other major games forums seeing mass sign-ups in the past few hours, with Waypoint in particular seeing a large number of arrivals welcomed with open arms.
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
Huhhttps://www.polygon.com/2017/10/22/16516592/neogaf-tyler-malka-evilore-allegations-shutdown
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
huh. my wife lurked on that site. i told her about it and her reaction was "ugh, now am i going to have to go to ign to find out what's happening in gaming?"
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
weird yeah that was a big forum w lots of industry posters. it could be a very censorship heavy place, run by some power mad Holier Than Thou mods. towards the end it seemed to get more and more social justicey (the Weinstein stuff as well as a bunch of videogame-related stuff getting a lot of attention). of course this kind of thing would collapse such a place lol. out with the creeps.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
fwiw i was permabanned from that place for reviving a 5 year old thread on Yoko Ono when i should have started a new one. no warning, just a ban w a smug message about getting rid of me forever.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
i lurked to catch gaming news that i might have missed, was never interested in posting there. amazing really how such a big site can crumble overnight though. like rushomancy’s wife i’m wondering where to quickly get my gaming news now!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 22 October 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
no warning, just a ban w a smug message about getting rid of me forever
fyi this should have been posted to Ideas for ILX - slip up like that again and you're through
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 October 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
i've given in to reading gamespot and polygon. i'm not proud
― Nhex, Sunday, 22 October 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
always enjoyed the insane japanese game sales analysis threads. to be honest i can deal with an over modded holier than thou forum if i dont have to see most of the heinous shit thats on every other gaming forum.
― jamiesummerz, Monday, 23 October 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
Neogaf had its fair share of stupidity, but a sort of common decency as a basic norm meant it was far better than any other mega huge video games board. I used it, it was my place for news, I followed some discussions, contributed at times. That's unfathomable for reddit or ign boards or whatever.
Hope the dick in charge reads the situation and gives this thing over to someone else so I don't have to look at gaming communities.
― abcfsk, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
lol xp ilx is like the only internet forum where reviving old threads is considered more polite than making new ones, everywhere else I've posted its considered something akin to trolling to bump a year+ old thread even if you mean well
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
I've always found that rule bizarre
― Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
same here. one of the reasons ilx is best, we try to minimize dupe threads and kill stickies almost altogether
― Nhex, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Scrolling through long ilx threads can be hell to be honest, but I do like seeing the history of posts on smaller ones
― abcfsk, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
ILX is really the perfected internet, there was nowhere to go but down
I just didn't know how FAR down
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
game forums/blogs i used to read: gaming world (rip), selectbutton.net, the tigsource forums, freeindiegam.es. A few other smaller blogs like zero feedback. Now only salt world. and freem.jp and some russian dev forum. but games are dead so
But I read this news and I'm like, what the hell is neogaf?
― bamcquern, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link
Perhaps, but I'd wish instead we could give people a second chance? Or at least accept that when people are teenagers/YA's they say dumb stuff (which 100% of them) which cannot be carried after the person forever. Which is *not* to dismiss his remarks, at all, but the greediness in the search to nail people doesn't sit well with me either.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
Oops, wrong thread (or is it?)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
The "new neogaf" or "neo neogaf" if you will, Resetera, is live, although registration is initially done in waves https://www.resetera.com/
Some former neogaf people and some others are running it, mostly neogaf users flocking over there right now. Should be the place to migrate to.
Malka (the guy implicated) has opened up neogaf again as a games-only forum, doubling down on his assholery and even checking people's personal messages to censor links to the new place. lol. That place is dead to any sensible user.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 26 October 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link
"doubling down on assholery" feels like the big trend for 2017
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 October 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link
I guess it's in the nature of assholes to do this, and now they have a detourned language of victimhood to help them on their way
― pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 October 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link
fess up, who got into resetera
― Nhex, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
I got in, via a former gaf community
― abcfsk, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
Pod of relevance: -
https://www.no-cartridge.net/?name=2017-11-03_ep52.mp3
No Cartridge Audio - Episode 52: Better Solidarity: Misogyny, Games, the Left, and Beyond with Christina @Squierzz and Emma @surfbordt
We're lucky enough to have Christina @squierzz and Emma @surfbordt on the show to discuss the recently explosive issue of sexual harassment and misogyny, a topic relevant to gaming and beyond. Absolutely important episode.-
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
first, this game, secondly, that kotaku is giving it publicity. the screenshot alone is o_O
https://i.imgur.com/Zrnvipc.png
― Karl Malone, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
Kotaku's old Japan correspondent Brian Ashcraft was one of the most transparent creepy pervs I have ever read.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
Literally every other story he wrote could fit under the heading "Things Brian came across while looking for things to masturbate to"
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
*Kotaku’s current Japan correspondent
― .oO (silby), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link
yeah that dude is the reason i never look at kotaku
― It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
hahahaha omg i cannot believe he is still there
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 20 November 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link
general rule of thumb is if you ever write the phrase "things get... sexy" you should have your computer taken away from youoh great see now someone is taking my computer aw
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link
haha. has Ashcroft ever pretended to not be a creep, tbf?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
"mein kraft"
About 40,400 results (0.40 seconds)
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 December 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
Jesushttp://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-12-07-google-play-launches-change-the-game-diversity-initiative
The survey also pointed to male gamers as a contributing factor. 25% of men surveyed agreed with the statement, "I would spend more time playing mobile games if I knew I was playing with or against players of my own gender," compared to just 10% of women. And while that 10% figure for women was roughly unchanged regardless of how much they played, among the most dedicated male mobile gamers (those who play 10 hours or more a week), 47% preferred to play exclusively with other men. Those preferences naturally produce an exclusionary atmosphere that makes women feel less welcome in the community, they said.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
that is just... so fkn weird. and so fkn easy to believe. but still so fkn weird.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 11 December 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
surprised the number for women is so low, given what playing games w boys is like
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 December 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
I'm not that surprised actually. The way women compete with each other can be pretty brutal!
― Nhex, Monday, 11 December 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link
that... was not my takeaway
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link
I think Nhex may have chosen one of the more awkward possible ways to convey the sentiment that “it is not surprising that women are not intimidated by competing or playing with men, considering how competitive women can be with each other”
― El Tomboto, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:16 (six years ago) link
This is also weird because isnt one of the sexist-git arguments about how many women gamers there are, is "no they just play mobile games, and those dont count!".
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 December 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link
One quibble with that finding: I'm not sure that this statement is well-phrased:
"I would spend more time playing mobile games if I knew I was playing with or against players of my own gender"
It's ambiguous between "only players of my own gender" and "at least some players of my own gender". It's not clear that the 25%/47% are all saying that they would prefer to play exclusively with men.
― jmm, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:47 (six years ago) link
thanks tomboto - i was sorta trying to get at that, you said it better
― Nhex, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:41 (six years ago) link
yeah, sorry if i was unnecessarily snarky there; i know you well enough to read that as somewhat ill put and not from a place of evil
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link
i didn't mean that they're intimidatingly competitive i meant that they hate women
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 December 2017 08:09 (six years ago) link
"I realized Milo could connect with these kids right away," Bannon told Green. "You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." ~ Steve Bannon on Milo/Breitbart's use of #GamerGate to boost Trump.— Erik Kain (@erikkain) December 13, 2017
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
i don't think this story quite fits the thread and yet i don't know where to put it
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/30/why-a-twitter-user-claims-to-have-made-the-swatting-call-that-led-police-to-kill-a-man/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_swatting1231-440pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0b5a633168e2
Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread
― Nhex, Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link