Dishonored.

http://www.dishonored.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored_%28video_game%29

can't wait

i thought there was a thread already!

kotaku says masterpiece, a few bugs (lol bethesda)

http://kotaku.com/5948347/dishonored-the-kotaku-review

comes out tomorrow in NA. if i weren't feeling guilty about a weekend in sick xboxing i might go for it

We talked about it on one of the rolling threads iirc.

lotta folks digging it

yeah, i'm into this.

i was not into this after all the zzzz face stabby trailers but people are saying it's weird and thief-y

still a tad curious if it's any good, but something about the tone and atmosphere turns me off

Ha this ^ is exactly how I am feeling abt this game. Saw a trailer/demo/whatever that really turned me off.

Ha, I'm the opposite, the gameplay looks meh but the tone and atmosphere are the reasons I have it on pre-order. The level design is by the dude who made City 17!

almost bought but still tokyo junglin'

Impulse buy today. Fun so far, but I can't do much cool stuff yet.

i spent and indulgent sick day with this yesterday. first impressions:

the look of the game is great. a few ppl have said the slight unrealism of the character modeling is a turnoff, you all should reconsider. let's be real, games can't yet render cinema-grade physical creations, it's ALL art. the choice in this game to make the people look a bit like a schiele (or john currin, in some cases) painting is a good one. the lighting is very good, everything takes on a watercolor kind of vibe. it's pretty.

i'm enjoying and am interested in this world and its history and politics. though because this is bethesda there are a million books scattered around that i am not really reading. the atmosphere of physical and political corruption is convincing, and the designers have i think done a good job to keep a lot of those details elliptical and not entirely spelled out. i'm far enough in to see the basic shape of the plot but no big switches or betrayals have happened yet; i'm sure they're on the way.

gameplay and controls seem robust and intuitive so far. i guess the weak point would be the sword combat which has the whack-whack-whack sameness of skyrim -- the difference being that even at normal diff it's very lethal, making defense timing crucial. on my first run-through i'm going for stealth so i haven't checked out the combat powers or gadgets much yet. if fps platforming sounds awful to you, don't get this game, i guess.

so far i've picked out brad dourif and of course susan sarandon in the v/o. checking imdb i see john slattery is a main character, totally missed that

well fps platforming is one of the worst things in creation so now i am concerned

i'm playing this back-to-back with arkham city and even compared to that it's not bad at all!

i never played portal 2, isn't that gold standard?

there's not much jumping. most of the platforming is done with the 'blink' power, which means you aim at a spot w/in range and voop you're there.

it's meant to be instantaneous, and the game re-accelerates all sound from a molasses-slow pitch when you come out of it, even ambient dialogue. details like that are well done.

welp, i got to the twist. could have seen that coming!

in terms of atmospherics & vibe this game reminds me of half-life 2, in that there are people trying to live through a permanent crisis amid industrial ruin. lots of time spent perched somewhere in windswept quietude while figuring out how to manage the next set of obstacles. creeped-out masked security men everywhere.

this should come in the mail today -- gonna put some hours in this weekend

goole remind me to loan you portal 2, i had no idea you hadnt played that yet. its i guess technically a first person platformer, but it never even vaguely feels like one.

it's also fukken awesome

if these dudes would just put out a playable demo for this, they could probably easily remove $60 from my wallet per these descriptions.

xpost oh yes, yes it is

I had a go at Eurogamer - I was pulled in by the Thief comparisons rather than Deus Ex or whatevs, and it was v. v. engaging. Instant atmosphere. Might have to break my 'no straight white dude PC on a vengeance / rescue kick' rule for this one.

haha good rule!

i guess there's no explicit evidence he's straight...

fuck cisgendered protagonists

and washing a hat

ok i have $20 in gamestop credit just burning a hole, should i buy this today

i would, i'm really loving it

man i hope this shows up in the mail today, i'm going to be a little laid up this weekend (via sciatic nerve issues) and need something immersive.

Delivery Estimate: Tuesday October 16, 2012

;_;

shipped days ago too, why did i pre-order this shit

sorry man. what kind of pre-order bonus do you get?

"- Fencer [ sword vs sword advantage bonus ]
-Fire Water [ increased whiskey bottle explosions ]
-Blast Resistant [ reduces damage taken in explosions ]
-In-game Wolfhound Statue"

which i probably wont' install, sounds like it would just make things easier without any corresponding sense of achievement? although "increased whiskey bottle explosions" does sound pretty dope.

in Tennessee, we called that "college"

hmm those all seem tuned to a combat-oriented path.

If it makes you feel any better, I preordered too, also don't have it yet, and didn't even get any bonusses.

where are yall preordering from that pull this kind of shit?

me, i just went and subjected myself to gamestop employee chitchat but have the game (and a deck of dishonored branded tarot cards?) in my glove compartment right now.

I just buy stuff at Best Buy.

Oh it turns out mine came today after all but came THREE MINUTES after I left the house, and that was after me waiting in TWO HOURS for the postman before giving up on him. Ah well, probably wouldn't have time to play it this weekend anyway.

amazong. my fault for taking the free shipping.

there isn't a best buy/target/game stop etc in my daily commute, so i'd probably never get around to it otherwise.

I've fully invested in digital purchasing everything now, but it helps that I don't have a current-gen console to compete with it.

amazong prime!! is the best thing.

so is it as important as reviews suggest to stealth it up and not kill people? or can i kill the occasional dude? my typical stealth approach is sneak sneak sneak and then murder a few people when it seems i can do so in a novel or entertaining manner.

also what is a reasonable time to duck out of work on a friday afternoon

the game has a bunch of mutually exclusive achievements and endings (no killing, being unseen, killing a bunch, etc)

sell your preorder code on ebay - people pay stupid amounts of money for this stuff

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sell your preorder code on ebay - people pay stupid amounts of money for this stuff

― Nhex, Friday, October 12, 2012 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you mean, $9.99 via xblm in six months?

I've been killing like there is no tomorrow.

i know, it's s weird phenomenon, but apparently there are tons of people who are like "o shit i forgot to preorder" and they'll pay right after release day

though right now the going rate's only about $10, last week it would've been $15

Bought this game. Pretty cool so far! The combat isn't floaty like in Skyrim. More engaged. The fact that you can either kill everyone or no one is great.

depends how you're playing it i guess? doesn't seem like aiming would be an issue unless you were going all-in commando mode, otherwise you could go no-kill or snipe or knife? but i'm not that far into the game yet.

there is a kind of soft auto-aim. required aiming skills are low.

i've barely used the gun/crossbow at all yet. i used sleep darts on the weepers in the sewer and i used the gun once when surprised by scary assassins but that's it. it feels lazy to use projectile weapons in the context of the game.

i used sleep darts all the time (and remember some tough spots near the end when i was out of them, it must have been in the flooded district), but was playing stealth so i had all the time in the world to carefully aim (which i think is the secret reason why i love stealth games).

there are a couple moments where you have to aim your blink power pretty quickly tho

I sure do hate these spitty oyster things

grenades and those spike bomb things were made for the krusts

stop time --> shoot with pistol

only time i used either of those things!

Ok just finished a super low chaos (fucked up and killed a weeper early on but I think that's it, although one dude might have gotten rat swarmed oops) run, and my only criticism is that the last level is just crazy crazy easy at that point. A little disappointing tbh.

Which of course means now I'm going through again murdering every dude I are.

Heh are=see but I like that sentiment right there, very jaunty

i thought it was a possession joke

ok this game ruled, one of the best i've played in a while, but that last level was pretty dang anticlimactic. i was ok with no boss fight but i was expecting more of a challenge getting to the dude at least. also another game where i accrued a ton of money that i never really spent on anything.

anyone play any of the dlc? i'll probably go back and try to do some of the levels with no kills and never being detected.

love the dlc, can't wait for the witches one next month.

so psyched

oh yeah i need to download it. still have a lot of the knife of dunwall to play though

finished brigmore witches last night, pretty fun but anticlimactic (kind of like the main game). was hoping the void would be a full level but it was pretty much a one-scene thing.

same here, did stealth & didn't kill anyone as usual (well, i think i assassinated the guy that the shopkeeper wanted me to take out, just to see what would happen).

the main levels felt pretty meaty, especially the second one (streets/dock/hatter hideout). the old gang leader who wants you to put him out of his misery (although doing so will gas every one in the building) was a nice decision point. i'm sad there isn't any more to play.

i tell myself i'll go back and replay and try not to kill anyone at all but in reality i almost never replay games, even ones i love

2x, at least new games. every few years i'll still get the urge to go replay Res Evil 4 and old mario/mega man/metroid/etc games. i could actually see replaying the main Dishonored game at some point.

so i bought THIEF for the xbone but my wife saw it and now she wants to watch me play it, which is good, except that now i can only play it when she's around.

so i bought DISHONORED w/ all the DLC for the pc so i am going to do a HEAD 2 HEAD comparison as i never beat dishonored on console.

(thief is nowhere near as bad as reviews have it, i kinda think reviewers don't remember/never played OG thief games?)

played dishonored on xbox, liked it, got near the end but somehow lost interest (some escape-from-sewer level seemed real unfun). however i fancy checking out the dlc, but on my pc. am i screwed by not having my savegame available or do the dlc games start from scratch with a new character?

I stopped playing Dishonored a couple of hours in (it was great, but I'm shit at stealth games and I had important drinking and sleeping to attend to) but IIRC the DLC episodes start totally from scratch and have you playing a totally separate character with a different set of powers.

I always thought the strength of Dishonored was that you could play it even with shit stealth skills. Just remember to ice dudes one at a time, and you should be fine.

thanks TT

hmm maybe i'll have to try Thief after all

yeah its less about stealth and lots more about strategy and timing honestly. i hate stealth games but loved the way they did it in dishonored.

so far thief is very janky and obviously not the wide-open low-res low-poly-count playground of 1998 but it is a much better stealth game than dishonored. dishonored is better for creative slaughter but i still don't like its fingerwagging moralism or whimsical whale oil neil gaiman tapdance steampunk vibe.

thief's steampunk vibe is darker and somehow less annoying? i dunno. writing in both games is garbage, big surprise.

sounds like you didn't play dishonored as a stealth game!

giving me all these fun tools for murdering people and then fussing at me for using them is imo a weird way to make a game/make a point about video violence and the lust for blood that lives within us as gamers or whatever.

well that and a clever way to make you do a couple playthroughs

i am enjoying being sneaky and not killing ppl if i can help it (have still merc'd a few in a panic, tho), but tbh i am looking forward to the prospect of str8 slaughtering everyone on a second playthrough

giving me all these fun tools for murdering people and then fussing at me for using them is imo a weird way to make a game/make a point about video violence and the lust for blood that lives within us as gamers or whatever.

no it's a valid point, you're just a bad person, nbd. :)

really it was just luck that my play style (slow, not that good at combat, don't mind re-trying a section until i get it right) fit with the 'good' way of playing this game.

i can dig that. blink is really one of the most fun things in a game in recent memory.

it felt very limiting to go from playing dishonored to far cry 3 and not be able to blink around.

that first dlc (as daud) was great, prob more fun than the main game though much too short. 2nd dlc isn't as fun so far (2nd level in, in the streets where there's a war between two rival gangs) but still v glad i started this back up. is that the end of it all now or are they planning more dlc? i see dishonored 2 is being touted about so that's probably it, bah

http://www.polygon.com/e3-2015/2015/6/14/8776839/dishonored-2-release-date-e3-2015

yesss

Nice.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/16/dishonored-2-review-clockwork-world-of-exquisite-challenge

might get this in a few months when it's cheaper and i have finished slogging through ds9.

i loved the first one and am excited for this one but yeah i never buy new games so it'll probably be a while before i play it

this is pretty great. very similar to the first one but the level design might be even better. somehow it doesn't feel like 'fetch quests' when you're criss-crossing the same area for different objectives, and most of environments are so detailed.

also the tiny fonts on everything keep reminding me to make an appointment to update my glasses prescription.

yeah enjoying this. i am so bad at stealth tho. i get impatient or just press the wrong button and fire my gun, then all hell breaks loose. my character is already "high chaos". though on one level i did find a big pipe high up in the sky and strolled to the finish.

the tiny fonts thing is so fucking annoying and in every game. i have fairly good eyesight and don't wear glasses and it's maddening.

i'm going full stealth, no murders. at first i was constantly re-loading saves every time all hell broke loose. i still am, but it's happening slightly less frequently.

i feel like i generally don't have the time to play a game enough and get stealthy. it's also a bit emotionally/morally unintuitive - like in the second city by the docks i overheard some rotund jerk throwing his weight around at his workers, like threatening and hassling them, so far as videogame morality goes, i did the right thing by maiming him fatally and throwing him into the sea. but all the workers ran away screaming and i was the bad guy! sad!

haha. that's very realistic!

i definitely save it for when i have a decent block of time to get into it, but you can deal with rooms or scenarios as smaller chunks, and i love that you can save at any moment.

i was a bit unimpressed by how it looked, to begin with, possibly in comparison to witcher 3, but there's definitely some really nice character to the buildings and the cities.

looking forward to getting this, though i just dropped $$ for titanfall 2

plan to do one bloodless run-through with i guess corvo, and then a straight murderous run-through with emily