in these, the waning days of stern: 2013-2014 NBA regular season thread (part 1)

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what a strange strange season we have going on here

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

During the lockout you would just blame the shortened season for injuries

Used to be a child could kick a ball in the street

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

Is there any good writing or theorizing on why all the injuries? Is it just that medicine is getting so good and paranoid that now we detect that much more?

Clay, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link

this is football obvs but http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10193209/bill-belichick-new-england-patriots-questions-nfl-offseason-workout-limits id think a good approach would be to maybe cut the number of games in particular eliminate back to backs and lengthen training camp/preseason

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

it would not just cut down on injuries but also improve the quality of play

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

― lag∞n, Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:40 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like this is it. driving hard just to get hacked is now a sound strategy

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

taking the more practice less competition approach one step further replacing high school/aau and college with a european style academy system, would produce better players

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

i think maybe the biggest change in style of play has come on defense, all the switching from side to side is v demanding

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

but theres a lot more movement on offense too, too bad we didnt have those super stat cameras for the last 20 years cause i bet players move like twice as much over the course of a game as they used to

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

There's probably a way to track total distance moved over a game

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Overhead camera facing down like the ones they used to shoot aerial footage

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

feel like its some combo of increased athleticism and increasingly demanding styles of play

― lag∞n, Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:40 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this + medical staffs being more aggressive to fix possible problems that could turn into career nagging injuries.

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Remember that camera they put in the floor underneath the basket. Wow that was weird

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

There's probably a way to track total distance moved over a game

― 乒乓, Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:48 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well there is now http://stats.nba.com/playerTracking.html

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

happy endings reduce the instance of injury 69%

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

board descrip

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I hadn't considered movement amount, but thinking about it, yeah, there's tons less standing around in basketball these days, particularly amongst the more progressive systems.

Clay, Saturday, 28 December 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

its funny cause a lot of it can be traced back to thibodeau and he plays his players too many minutes and his best player is chronically injured

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link

NBA Legion ‏@MySportsLegion 5m -- Cavaliers have called multiple NBA team regarding an Andrew Bynum trade. "No one wants him" (via @SamAmicoFSO) Cavs likely to release Bynum.

hm.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

lol the clips are scooping him up no question

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

haha, what a cancer.

Kev, what have you got to say for ya boy?

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

"He doesn't want to play basketball anymore," a league source told Yahoo Sports.

The Cavaliers believe Bynum has been a "disruptive" presence within the team and have lost hope the partnership can be salvaged, sources said. Bynum often expressed a lack of desire to play and practice and was convinced by the Cavaliers not to quit previously, sources said.

haha who's gonna sign a guy that openly just hates playing the sport?

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

maybe he doesnt want to sign with anyone

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

he just wants to quit

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

just retire already yeah

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Quit get cool perms bowl a lot dance the salsa

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

he is going to become a yoga instructor.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Tbf if if I was a multimillionaire at the age of 24 like he was Id quit too

乒乓, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link

SPORTSTALK ‏@LegacySportTalk 1h -- Heat are interested in signing Andrew Bynum if he becomes a free agent.

lol.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

look out, "champion-in-waiting indiana pacers."

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

def, also has two rings so he's good xxp

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWyzAzXgo0Q

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

From most angles that was a pretty well-executed flop. Tim's elbow probably did brush his nose ever so slightly.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

BTW, list of non-guaranteeds who could be cut in the next week:

Atlanta: Shelvin Mack, Cartier Martin, Mike Scott
Boston: None
Brooklyn: None
Charlotte: Jeff Adrien, Chris Douglas-Roberts
Chicago: D.J. Augustin, Eric Murphy
Cleveland: Andrew Bynum, Matt Dellavedova, C.J. Miles, Henry Sims
Dallas: None
Denver: Quincy Miller
Detroit: Josh Harrellson, Peyton Siva
Golden State: Hilton Armstrong, Kent Bazemore
Houston: Patrick Beverley, Greg Smith
Indiana: Rasual Butler
L.A. Clippers: Stephen Jackson, Maalik Wayns
L.A. Lakers: Xavier Henry, Ryan Kelly, Kendall Marshall, Shawne Williams
Memphis: Seth Curry, James Johnson
Miami: Michael Beasley, Roger Mason Jr.
Milwaukee: None
Minnesota: Robbie Hummel
New Orleans: Lou Amundson
New York: Cole Aldrich, Toure' Murry
Oklahoma City: Ryan Gomes, Hasheem Thabeet
Orlando: Solomon Jones, Hedo Turkoglu
Philadelphia: James Anderson, Lorenzo Brown, Brandon Davies, Daniel Orton, Hollis Thompson, Elliot Williams
Phoenix: Dionte Christmas
Portland: None
Sacramento: Hamady N'diaye
San Antonio: Malcolm Thomas
Toronto: Julyan Stone
Utah: Ian Clark, Diante Garrett, Mike Harris
Washington: None

Funny enough, from Stein's piece on them yesterday: "The list of players technically at risk includes some who face zero chance of getting snipped; Andrew Bynum, Patrick Beverley and Michael Beasley jump off the page in terms of vets who have noting to fret about."

:0

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

Ha

Spottie, Saturday, 28 December 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link

nba insider mark stein B-)

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

he's no chris sheridan, that's for sure.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

no shame there, tho.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

lol bynum

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

i vaguely recall one of the knocks on him when he was drafted was that he wasn't particularly interested in basketball

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

yep only seems to ever be 7 footers who have that affliction, any shorter and you just wash out

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

obv a number of big guys come in like that and get over it but its probably harder to find the desire to keep up with the nba grind when you have two rings beaucoup dollars messed up knees and a heap of kobe abuse in your past

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link

most people prob just arent psychologically built for it, lord knows i have never put nba level effort into anything

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link

most people prob just arent psychologically built for it, lord knows i have never put nba level effort into anything

― lag∞n, Saturday, December 28, 2013 5:10 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really sure I've even ever put Bynum-level effort into anything :/

Call me Shitmael (CompuPost), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

im sure you have if you include hair or bowling

z-time champion (agent hibachi), Saturday, 28 December 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 18m
Enterprising Raps fan wearing old Bargnani jersey, but taped over Bargnani's name and wrote "NYK'S PROBLEM" on the tape. Fun times!

moullet, Sunday, 29 December 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link


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