mike woodson job search tracking thread, plus triangle offense knowledge assessment quiz (nba offseason news 2014)

i just don't get the derek fisher idea. nothing against fisher, but there's been this oddly high number of people moving or rumored to be moving straight into head-coaching jobs lately, without any coaching background (e.g., kidd; kerr; mark jackson (i think he was a novice?); now fisher). seems like coaching is a distinct set of responsibilities, and being a great player, analyst, generally smart, articulate person doesn't necessarily qualify you.

my friend insists that kobe is woj's source and he's trying to build up support for fish

I don't see why Fisher is a bad choice. Not something people in our position could really judge. He's a smart player, just wildly cheap.

do you think he would play himself if he were scott brooks?

haha maybe

you know I think signing fisher was even worse than playing him

"not a bad choice" dude there must be dozens of qualified coaches out there who actually know what they're doing and have some experience, why would the lakers, of all franchises, roll the dice on kobe's buddy?

I don't think players have to necessarily do an apprenticeship before coaching. He could be a legit coaching talent, we just don't know. Wasn't Doc Rivers just a broadcaster before getting his first NBA coaching gig?

Lakers have much more info on what kind of basketball mind Fisher has than we message board goons do.

true

i guess i'm just going off of woj's rationale which is that him being friends with kobe and durant somehow makes him an attractive candidate. if the guy can coach, fine

Yeah I mean for all the shit we've given them mark jackson and kidd have their teams in the playoffs

d fish could be a really good coach, i just love the idea of d fish coaching in LA with old Kobe

yes, i need this opportunity to focus my hatred

yeah I don't have any pretensions to knowledge of fish's quality as a coach, I just want to rag on him for years and years

there must be dozens of qualified coaches out there who actually know what they're doing and have some experience

totally hear ya on this, but I'm thinking people like Fisher, Jackson, Kidd paradoxically have more instant credibility to players? or a kind of cache? "guys your new coach is Derek Fisher" 'oh Fish ok cool' vs "guys your new coach is Mike Budenholzer" 'da fuck??? *googles Mike Budenholzer*'.
also maybe Lakers are more willing to play a risk v reward game, snatch up a possible good-to-great coach before he hits the open market and if it doesn't work out oh well they can afford to fire him, pay out his contract, and hire another big name coach.
and it's m/l working out with Jackson and Kidd so it's trendy, NBA is a pretty trendy-heavy league.

Lakers have much more info on what kind of basketball mind Fisher has than we message board goons do.

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based on their recent history if they hire him then hes prob not qualified, if they dont hire him then maybe he is

lakers are gonna be bad next year regardless tho

Hey I know the lakers are trying to glom on to any big name out there but if OKC wipes out and fires brooks they have to look hard at Kevin Ollie right?

as soon as uconn started making their run i thought ollie was the frontrunner if brooks was out, if only for 'how do we keep durant' reasons.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/camron-harlem-mase-and-high-school-basketball-lies/

Nick Young ‏@NickSwagyPYoung 3h -- I'll be the new coach

lol why not?

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1h -- Scratch my Steve Kerr to #Knicks over #Warriors tab. Insider tells me it's likelier to be Warriors with daughter at Berkeley, fam in SDiego

it's all so confusing. i thought GSW didn't want to go for two consecutive "tv analyst to head coach" experiments?

Where did you hear that?

a twitter feed of one of those "nba insiders." of course, there is a wide swing in credibility from one "insider" to the next. just can't recall which one said that.

I haven't read that they don't want another tv analyst anywhere, and Kerr's name has been discussed wrt this story from the beginning due to his ties to Rick Welts and Kirk Lacob.

i'll see if i can track down that tweet.

yeah lacob wants kerr first havent heard anything about tv thing

I personally would rather they pick someone with coaching experience.

yeah totally agree. was really hoping for stan van

I didn't like how Stan handled the Dwight stuff.

Kerr is also a former GM so he's not just a tv guy fwiw

i loved it xp

Kerr's GM experience is part of what troubles me about him.

I personally would rather they pick someone with coaching experience.

Same.

No Dwights on the Warriors roster, I don't think?

loved the way stan van gundy handled the D12 situation, but i'm biased, cuz i think dwight howard is a clown.

No Dwights on the Warriors roster, I don't think?

Well, it depends on what you mean by "a Dwight". If you're talking about a disgruntled guy who feels like his opinions aren't valued by the management, you may have a whole roster of Dwights right now.

Yeah I dont think SVG should be judged on how he dealt with a sub moronic 300lb child

^^ What I was getting at, minus the delightfully pungent color.

I *do* think he should be judged in those terms. Managing egos is unfortunately part of the job, and the coach often has less power than the sub moronic 300lb children they ostensibly supervise. If they're lucky management will provide them with a bunch of classy dudes who are also good at basketball, but that isn't always the case.

I mean, I love that Van Gundy was like fuck it I'm going to talk shit about my best player's childishness in front of the press, but I don't think that's an especially good way to lead in today's NBA.

Doc strikes me as a guy who gets potential problem children to behave better

poly otm

it wasn't as prolonged or magnified but doc did similar stuff with rondo and glen davis.

my highly unscientific review of twitter a moment ago, and for :35, suggests that stan van's name is being thrown around a lot more today than, say, yesterday, for the golden state job. this concludes my findings.

e.g.,

Ethan Strauss ‏@SherwoodStrauss 1h -- Thing nobody's cared about till this week: Stan Van Gundy grew up rooting for the Warriors

I really don't get the point of speculating abt this stuff unless you're a huge fan or h8r. Like, we'll know when we know.

it did command my attention for all of that :35 span.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2014/05/08/warriors-mark-jackson-and-the-question-of-race/

parts of this are good

Something I haven't thought all the way through yet is that you'd think a former PG would have the tactical knowledge you'd expect in an NBA-level coach. Or is this (and other similar axioms in other sports, e.g. catchers in MLB) specious to begin with?

Well, most coaches who were players were point guards, so you're not wrong. But a point guard isn't necessarily equipped to teach the nuances of post play, for example.