mike woodson job search tracking thread, plus triangle offense knowledge assessment quiz (nba offseason news 2014)

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/camron-harlem-mase-and-high-school-basketball-lies/

Nick Young ‏@NickSwagyPYoung 3h -- I'll be the new coach

lol why not?

Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1h -- Scratch my Steve Kerr to #Knicks over #Warriors tab. Insider tells me it's likelier to be Warriors with daughter at Berkeley, fam in SDiego

it's all so confusing. i thought GSW didn't want to go for two consecutive "tv analyst to head coach" experiments?

Where did you hear that?

a twitter feed of one of those "nba insiders." of course, there is a wide swing in credibility from one "insider" to the next. just can't recall which one said that.

I haven't read that they don't want another tv analyst anywhere, and Kerr's name has been discussed wrt this story from the beginning due to his ties to Rick Welts and Kirk Lacob.

i'll see if i can track down that tweet.

yeah lacob wants kerr first havent heard anything about tv thing

I personally would rather they pick someone with coaching experience.

yeah totally agree. was really hoping for stan van

I didn't like how Stan handled the Dwight stuff.

Kerr is also a former GM so he's not just a tv guy fwiw

i loved it xp

Kerr's GM experience is part of what troubles me about him.

I personally would rather they pick someone with coaching experience.

Same.

No Dwights on the Warriors roster, I don't think?

loved the way stan van gundy handled the D12 situation, but i'm biased, cuz i think dwight howard is a clown.

No Dwights on the Warriors roster, I don't think?

Well, it depends on what you mean by "a Dwight". If you're talking about a disgruntled guy who feels like his opinions aren't valued by the management, you may have a whole roster of Dwights right now.

Yeah I dont think SVG should be judged on how he dealt with a sub moronic 300lb child

^^ What I was getting at, minus the delightfully pungent color.

I *do* think he should be judged in those terms. Managing egos is unfortunately part of the job, and the coach often has less power than the sub moronic 300lb children they ostensibly supervise. If they're lucky management will provide them with a bunch of classy dudes who are also good at basketball, but that isn't always the case.

I mean, I love that Van Gundy was like fuck it I'm going to talk shit about my best player's childishness in front of the press, but I don't think that's an especially good way to lead in today's NBA.

Doc strikes me as a guy who gets potential problem children to behave better

poly otm

it wasn't as prolonged or magnified but doc did similar stuff with rondo and glen davis.

my highly unscientific review of twitter a moment ago, and for :35, suggests that stan van's name is being thrown around a lot more today than, say, yesterday, for the golden state job. this concludes my findings.

e.g.,

Ethan Strauss ‏@SherwoodStrauss 1h -- Thing nobody's cared about till this week: Stan Van Gundy grew up rooting for the Warriors

I really don't get the point of speculating abt this stuff unless you're a huge fan or h8r. Like, we'll know when we know.

it did command my attention for all of that :35 span.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2014/05/08/warriors-mark-jackson-and-the-question-of-race/

parts of this are good

Something I haven't thought all the way through yet is that you'd think a former PG would have the tactical knowledge you'd expect in an NBA-level coach. Or is this (and other similar axioms in other sports, e.g. catchers in MLB) specious to begin with?

Well, most coaches who were players were point guards, so you're not wrong. But a point guard isn't necessarily equipped to teach the nuances of post play, for example.

i don't think there are any data that could possibly prove or disprove that, but it makes sense to me. being a point guard is like being a coach on the floor. another thing that i've always thought is that smaller players who make it far enough are usually smarter (and better) relative to their peers since they had so much more competition to beat out to get where they are. if you're 6'10'', you probably had a basketball put in your hands at a young age whether you liked it or not -- that's why whenever you see issues of motor/determination/interest (take bynum, for an obvious example), it's usually in reference to a big guy.

Stan Van really only went nuclear once he knew he had completely lost Dwight and knew management was going to give him the boot in a few weeks in a desperate attempt to please the corniest person to ever play in the league

He's also still an incredible basketball mind who has survived two horrible situations (Riley knifing him in the back to step in and snag one more ring with the heat being the other) which I'd imagine would make him tough enough to step into a potentially awkward situation in GS and immediately get things straightened out

Kerr seems super smart and will probably be great but I know if I owned a team I'd be going hard after svg because he's totally proven and probably hungry to get back in the league now and do well

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_25719151/warriors-may-interview-steve-kerr-coaching-job?source=rss

Hope this doesn't diminish the chances of my team hiring a Mario Brother as coach.

@franblinebury
Anybody missing a scapegoat? Rockets bringing back head coach Kevin McHale, have fired assistant Dean Cooper, citing problems with defense.

Kevin McHale was the first white coach who came to my mind in the discussion of whether race affected the mark jackson firing.

why? i'm a big mchale fan, from his days with the 80s celtics dynasty (tho i have very conflicted feelings toward him and bird now, because of their current team-affiliations).

Cavaliers announce firing of Mike Brown as head coach.

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between cavs and lakers that dude's gonna make like $40 mill off not coaching

why did they even hire Brown back in the first place?

they are dumb

https://mobile.twitter.com/Probballdraft/status/465941519313408002

they are dumb

― call all destroyer, Monday, May 12, 2014

dumb? this firing all but assures that lebron james will return to cleveland this off-season.

A pretty good case for Stan Van Gundy (and George Karl) here:

https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/465967722925654016/photo/1

Per source Dan Gilbert had the paperwork filled out to give Mike Brown an extension but decided to fire him instead w 10 seconds left

Tim KawakamiVerified account
‏@timkawakami
NBA source: Stan Van Gundy told the Warriors he wanted total control of basketball decisions. They declined. He could get that in DET.

STAN!

oh no

staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

i would consider giving him total control, of course the current warriors leadership would never do that

yeah that was the whole thing w Jax

well i wouldn't give mark jackson team control