i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

what no there shd be a fine for not shopping a player into a uniform

Dirk n Parsons opting out.

i imagine dirk to take less on a longer deal? two year vets minimum or something.

dirk to boston book it

parsons could be a steal if you get 70+ games out of him, he'll probably get a max though because $$$

i imagine dirk to take less on a longer deal? two year vets minimum or something.

― Spottie, Monday, May 2, 2016 3:37 PM (49 minutes ago)

dirk is such a chump man

Where did your dirk hatred come from? I don't remember this in the past

i love dirk!

taking a pay cut to play for this sorry team is such a sad thing to see

^^

cuck nowitzki morelike huh

Oh haha

But they're gonna sign Dwight

dirk is cool with the millions he's already got. he seems to have no ambitions for world domination post-nba. he'll probably just kick back with some brewskies.

CP is def joining CP and Clips next year
https://www.instagram.com/p/BE4fruaHsd_/?taken-by=chandlerparsons

not a bad fit

please lord

That starting 5 would be ridic. They can't afford him tho right?

can't every team afford anyone rn

parsons wld be a perfect fit for the clips theyve had a black hole at the 3 since forever

according the lowe, the cap is gonna be 90M next year; clips have about 77.5M of guaranteed money next year. they could maybe make it happen with a trade or two and/or maybe buying pierce out or something, but the bench will be a disaster probs. again.

cap is gonna be 92M* next year

larry bird might be looking for a new coach - are there any good ones left? svg? that italian guy from the spurs?

what really vogel is good

tho i guess bird is an avowed adherent to the coaches have a shelf life school of thought

well, he is pretty good. he's got the 4th longest tenure of any head coach now and his teams always have top notch defensive cohesion. he gets along very well with the players and has shown that he can change the playing style of the team over a single offseason.

but the pacers have consistently struggled because vogel is so unimaginative offensively. there's no smooth transition between sets - if the first play gets bogged down, the second option is either an iso or a p&p. i don't think he can coach a team to the finals. hopefully he can be the mark jackson to someone else's steve kerr.

might be worth giving him a chance with good offensive players tho

don't think many other coaches have won so much with so few high picks

vogel might not have the best offensive talent, but its still misused. the pacers were 24th in ortg this season

about what i would expect from a team that had to play a ton of mins w dudes like ellis and mahinmi!

anyway this apparently has legs, the pacers are nuts to let vogel go

otm

indy has zero guys who can get to he cup

Yeah I was thinking about that watching stuckey and Ellis trying to manufacture points in those last two games and just felt sorry for their guard rotation. That team really overperformed for basically a collection of whatever flotsam they could gather around pg as a transition from the hibbert-west-etc version of that team, but yeah bird really seems to believe in coach shelf life- did it to himself after all

they have a couple really good pieces in george and turner but u need a starter than can penetrate and play make to pair with them, george has decent playmaking skills but its not like hes harden where hes good enough to be the only guy on the court filling that role, which explains why he takes so many midrange shots he often beats his man but cant get past the second level, which wld be a perfect time w the defense scrambling to pass off to yr second driving guy but instead theres like george hill

Monta can get in there but he is a pretty dumb decision maker and has cut back on his drives big time.

ya prime monta wldve been good but hes p cooked

Prime monta pre-moped was so fun. Then he wasn't.

pre moped monta playing w the intelligence he did in dallas wldve been so good, also if his prime was now when the league is more in tune w his skills

Just a few variables really

love to get to the cup

gotta... get that cup

[sees girl reading Getting to the Cup]

"Ah I love that book. The way he just [clenches fist] gets to that fricken cup."

By "the cup" I presume you all are referring to the "basketball ring", correct?

thats the one, the thing everybodys trying to get to

Do the best teams at putting the ball into the basketball ring get championship finger rims?

they get all the finger rims with the glistening stones and valuable ore

Something random I've been wondering is how many great players go on to have a non-terrible post-playing career in the NBA (as GMs or coaches)? McHale, Bird, and Jerry West are the ones I can think of immediately, but then we a much longer list of mopes (led by Jordan -- also Magic's coaching stint failed miserably) (and I have to include the transcendent Chris Mullin too ;_;) who've been forgettable. Do people still rate Joe Dumars?

ya seems like most good coaches were scrappy overachievers

dumars is so hard for me to rate as a gm, clearly an amazing job early followed by disaster (and i'm not really holding darko against him). generally across sports it's been kind of understood that great players make awful coaches, that yr mediocre or average lifers become the great coaches. there are exceptions to this and it seems like there are more in basketball than baseball or football. i'm sure i'm forgetting someone but i can't think of anyone who's a pantheon great who managed a great career as a coach, frank robinson is the closest the comes to mind right now but i don't think i'd say he was ever a great manager as much as he had a long career as a manager. maybe lenny wilkens? w/ evaluating talent it seems to be an entirely different thing w/ jerry west probably second only to auerbach (maybe first idk) and elway seemingly doing a good job in denver. even there though you have yr obv cases of greats who failed eg elgin baylor.

larry legend?