i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

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one wld think dipos already not terrible %s wld be better w open looks on the thunder like 46/37% seems extremely obtainable particularly considering the magic were one of the worst teams for generating open looks, also not sure why u wld worry abt some rando smallball lineup, adams, kanter, kd, dipo, russ is extremely reasonable, but obvs his best skill is defense hell really help by being able to guard the opponents best backcourt player, great pickup for okc imho tho i do think they kinda shit the bed by misusing ibaka

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

yeah maybe idk i guess i've never been a huge oladipo fan. i don't think backcourt defense was really at the forefront of okc's problems.

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

agree dipo should get better shots, i also just think replacing some waiters/roberson minutes with dipo minutes is a really nice upgrade.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

i guess they freed up some money too once assuming they waive ersan and let waiters walk but i just thought the flexibility they found with the ibaka/kanter/adams trio during the playoffs seemed really good for them and i'm not sure adding oladipo really makes up for that but we'll see who they sign as well

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

i think if you switched out ibaka for oladipo in the west finals they don't get any better and perhaps a bit worse but presti's trades seem better with time so

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah that the ibaka/kd front court so so fn destructive against gs is my main problem w this trade, wldve loved to see that combo more, but on the other hand okc has had a years long hole at the 2 that just got filled by a solid player

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

as for the draft

i thought the nuggets did pretty well. i get the concerns about murray but you have to feel like his shooting can play and even tho he's slow footed defensively i think his body might allow him to shift onto bigger players. stats people were really high on hernangomez too, and beasley prob would have gone higher had he not screwed up his career by going to FSU.

i was slightly puzzled by the suns taking both bender & chriss but that trade with the kings seems pretty great on its face. i haven't seen bogdanovich play but they turned the 24th pick in 2014 and the 22nd in 2016 into a consensus top 10 prospect, hard to be mad about that. i guess you have to feel like either one of those guys hits and if both do then dang. also bender was easily the third best prospect in the draft imo.

also thought memphis had a down low great draft. baldwin might be the best PG in the draft and deyonta davis was a guy being mocked in the mid teens (DX has him as the 11th best prospect) so getting him on a second round contract is pretty amazing.

the hawks were puzzling. i think you have to really believe in taurean prince's shooting to take him that high and idk about bembry. i guess they're getting some wings who can switch several positions on defense but idk, that franchise seems kind of adrift currently. i think they got the worst end of that 3 team trade by a pretty clear margin.

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

i think what i would say about jaylen brown is that the celtics could have made a better pick (bender) but i'd roll the dice on brad stevens figuring out how to use him on the floor in a way that makes his chances of becoming a valuable nba player (in some form) more likely than if he went to... some of the other teams in the top 10

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

its amazing to think how in a few short months like half of these top picks are gonna look immediately untenable

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

and no one know which ones lol

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

does anyone know anything about the greek guy the kings too lol vlade is really wilding

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

like if bender came in and looked completely overmatch scared and clueless wld anyone be surprised, also if he had a better rookie season than the zinger

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

or if brown arrives and immediately starts dunking on the entire league, or maybe if it turns out he has no idea how to play basketball

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

yes lots of possibilities in play it will be interesting

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

anyway i like all of the top four picks i think those were actually the best players and prob at least one of them will be a huge disappointment and some dudes in the teens will be better

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

brown is so crazy athletic i have a hard time seeing him being a flat bust in the current nba

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

i like the brown pick, i liked bender too tho, mostly just disappointed the celtics cldnt put a trade together

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

ainge in denial that draft picks never gonna be worth more than right before it was spent

Adam KaufmanVerified account ‏@AdamMKaufman 2h2 hours ago
Danny Ainge stressed to @Toucherandrich #Celtics are not done and there's still PLENTY of time for a trade this offseason.

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

still think they shdve taken the noel deal but maybe his health is too worrisome or something

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

if they had a deal to get noel for the other draft picks aside from the #3 i would have done it

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

the deal as reported was the #3 for noel covington and two picks in the 20s

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

yeah maybe idk i guess i've never been a huge oladipo fan. i don't think backcourt defense was really at the forefront of okc's problems.

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 24, 2016 9:36 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think if you switched out ibaka for oladipo in the west finals they don't get any better and perhaps a bit worse but presti's trades seem better with time so

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 24, 2016 9:42 AM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo this is right. roberson was v good defensively and had a game or two where he could hit shots. the success of this trade will be based on whether sabonis develops into a rotation player.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

the deal as reported was the #3 for noel covington and two picks in the 20s

― lag∞n, Friday, June 24, 2016 11:05 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this was not that good a deal although picking 23, 24, 26 they could have gotten a whole new frontcourt for the maine red claws

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

i like noel a lot i might have done that but the medical stuff is def a question

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

now that hinkie is gone danny is the new Trust the Process and with the nets moving into tank mode they'll prob have another very high pick in what could be a (dramatic pause) very good draft next year

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

ya prob what it came down to if he were totally healthy itd be a no brainer imo xp

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

nets choosing to blow it up for draft picks instead of put together a not quite terrible team from free agents is truly mana from heaven

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

Anyone know about the two dudes the warriors got? Damian Jones at 30 and Pat MCcaw at 38

I watched highlights and what not, seem good on the surface, but wondering if anyone has an inside track on them

moistest hoist (Spottie), Friday, 24 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

now that hinkie is gone danny is the new Trust the Process and with the nets moving into tank mode they'll prob have another very high pick in what could be a (dramatic pause) very good draft next year

― J0rdan S., Friday, June 24, 2016 11:18 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is basically true, although at least the celtics can like, try to win games (and succeed) in the interim, which philly wouldn't and brooklyn simply won't be able to (although they'll try bc they have no choice)

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 June 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

celtics are trusting a different process imo

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

its the what do u do with 25 players process

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

lol that's not even far off from the actual current roster counting all draft picks (22)

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 24 June 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

Kinda feel bad that the only guy from my high school to ever be drafted was drafted by the team that drafted every player on earth that year

Salsa Golf (Argentinean Ketchup) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 24 June 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

The Wizards are reportedly prepared to offer Joakim Noah a 4 year, max contract worth around $120 million. Wow. (via @Mitch_Lawrence)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 24 June 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

this guys been hobbling around on one leg for two seasons gotta pull the trigger

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

WHAT

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

that'll lure durant

k3vin k., Friday, 24 June 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

dc has legal weed

marcos, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

really hard to know what noah has left in the tank but uhhhhhh

and they already have gortot through 2019

moistest hoist (Spottie), Friday, 24 June 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

all weeds illegal in the nba :[

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

not in the offseason

moistest hoist (Spottie), Friday, 24 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo09KZeaRdM

moistest hoist (Spottie), Friday, 24 June 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

tru, think its prob p easy to avoid detection generally, until u get caught once

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

players shd get weed testing thrown out in the next cba, does the league even really care whos gonna go to war over the silly lil plant

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

like if bender came in and looked completely overmatch scared and clueless wld anyone be surprised, also if he had a better rookie season than the zinger

If he had a better rookie season than Porzingis it would be totally shocking

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 June 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

does anyone know anything about the greek guy the kings too lol vlade is really wilding

Big solid stiff, not sure why they did that. It wasn't a bad pick in a vacuum.

Vlade compared him to WCS which is really weird

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 June 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

If he had a better rookie season than Porzingis it would be totally shocking

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, June 24, 2016 7:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

zingers season was... shocking...

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

i have no idea what to make of that ibaka deal. just two years ago, ibaka was the third part of their core. adams improved play + acquiring kanter + injuries put him on a v minor slide.

Is it that minor? He gets worse every year. His TS% has declined 3 straight years and his blk% 4 straight. And by significant amounts.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 June 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link

If he had a better rookie season than Porzingis it would be totally shocking

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, June 24, 2016 7:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

zingers season was... shocking...

Haha yes. And an even younger guy doing it would be wild. I'd get suns gear.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 24 June 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link


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