i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

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batum wld be good as heck on the dubs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

agreed

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

Always seems like he's out with something. Also played through a bad toe for like 1/3 of the last season and his production dipped. that 70+ games per year is kinda surprising

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

dubs can legitimately improve their team from this year's

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

And yes he's better than Barnes at everything. I'm all about batum

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

without durant i mean xp. obv durant does it

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link

Yeah he's second on my list after durant

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link

v much fear the improvening of the warriors. my preference is that all talent spurn them bc of 73-win jinx.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

like i wish ppl would stop talking like KD to the warriors is a distinct reality bc it makes me v v mad, way more mad than lebron and everybody going to miami bc they took a mediocre heat team into a juggernaut. kd would take a juggernaut into a word that should be illegal to say aloud.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

*whispers* a fuckernaut

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

the way i see it, there were 4 teams that were legit contenders and kd leaving okc for gs or sa would mean theres 3, right? bc okc would barely make the playoffs without him.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

Thems the breaks when you have an mvp making the 6th most on the team

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

thats...that is NOT what kurtis blow said, those ARE NOT the breaks

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

Otm

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:00 (seven years ago) link

*mounts hobby horse* this is a problem that is immediately solved with a hard cap and no max salary imo

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

for the sake of my own entertainment i don't really want the nba to turn into the nhl.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:05 (seven years ago) link

oh not that, to clarify i think there should limits on contract lengths bc fuck 12 year contracts or w/e, but a player should be able to make as much as a team is willing to pay within the cap (so i guess its still a de facto max salary but just a way way higher ceiling)

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:21 (seven years ago) link

i agree with eliminating max salaries but hard caps are so boring for roster management junkies of which i am increasingly one

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link

Are you all a bunch of CPAs or quants or something? Cap management makes me zzz.

Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

no it's just that the more ways you can fuck w/the cap the more options are open and the more crazy things you can discuss.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

i like the nba being biased towards teams retaining stars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

i have a hard time feeling bad for people making 25 million a year missing out on money because of max salaries

k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

the problem this year is the cap jump which cldve been avoided by denominating contracts as a % of the cap instead of in dollars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link

i've actually never heard that floated before, that's a pr obvious and smart idea

Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

thx

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

crazy thing is its in some way already the case, players get 50% of revenue

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

(also getting rid of max salaries)

6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

That sounds like profit sharing!

Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk 2m2 minutes ago
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lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

well i'm voting for trump now for sure

Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

gotta man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:14 (seven years ago) link

what your man got to do with me?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link

aint

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 05:22 (seven years ago) link

i have a hard time feeling bad for people making 25 million a year missing out on money because of max salaries

― k3vin k., Monday, June 27, 2016 10:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't really either but what other industry has a max salary? It's not like there's some tech commissioner telling Tim Cook his salary has to be capped so things are fair to google. If someone wants to pay Lebron (entire cap minus 14 minimum contracts) and see what happens I'd kind of be all for it!

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

Though I guess it's all fallout from sports leagues being arranged as one business entity that splits things 30 ways so maybe that analogy is bad

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

the hawks want in on the KD party, which is understandable, if they get immediately spurned their next priority is........dwight, which is not

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

Anyway Batum would be rad on the Warriors way better than Barnes and kinda underrated

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

its prob also in the league's interest to prevent stupid teams from being able to handicap themselves too badly e.g. the current state of brooklyn nets is about as bad as things can get within the rules

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

individual player salary max also reflects the fact that the players union is primarily made up of non max players who want a bigger slice of the pie

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

middle class wants more

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

i actually like how byzantine the nba salary structure is its fun + funny

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

if you're gonna have a cap you might as well have a max salary just to protect the owners from themselves imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

the current structure feels like it works really well in keeping the good players distributed around the league, i would think long and hard before changing anything big

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

i think if there was a cap but no max you would see the best players distributed in a weirdly even way. there would be no way for a team to keep i.e. durant and westbrook together unless they mutually agreed to turn down $50 million per year contracts from other teams

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

and if there was no cap mark cuban would have like a $350 million payroll and it would be weird & bad

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

so in that sense i think cap/max makes the most sense esp when you consider that the guys who get screwed the most are also the most marketable athletes in the world and make a bunch of money off the court

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

if i was going to change anything about the cap/salary structure it would be how long it takes players to get into unrestricted free agency. that durant's career has gone through like 5 revolutions before he has even had the chance to choose what team he plays for -- or that demarcus cousins has never been an unrestricted FA -- is crazy.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah the current setup lets you actually assemble a Big Three but prevents Big Fours and makes it difficult to keep Threes together for an extended time, that seems like a good spot to land imo

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

we don't want to stray too far from the NBA Jam Ideal where every team has 2 good players

ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

if i was going to change anything about the cap/salary structure it would be how long it takes players to get into unrestricted free agency. that durant's career has gone through like 5 revolutions before he has even had the chance to choose what team he plays for -- or that demarcus cousins has never been an unrestricted FA -- is crazy.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:36 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well both of them cldve been free agents after 5 years theres just such a huge incentive to sign that first max deal since yr team cn offer it to you early

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link


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