i have something to say about the offseason THE 2016 NBA OFFSEASON

*mounts hobby horse* this is a problem that is immediately solved with a hard cap and no max salary imo

for the sake of my own entertainment i don't really want the nba to turn into the nhl.

oh not that, to clarify i think there should limits on contract lengths bc fuck 12 year contracts or w/e, but a player should be able to make as much as a team is willing to pay within the cap (so i guess its still a de facto max salary but just a way way higher ceiling)

i agree with eliminating max salaries but hard caps are so boring for roster management junkies of which i am increasingly one

Are you all a bunch of CPAs or quants or something? Cap management makes me zzz.

no it's just that the more ways you can fuck w/the cap the more options are open and the more crazy things you can discuss.

i like the nba being biased towards teams retaining stars

i have a hard time feeling bad for people making 25 million a year missing out on money because of max salaries

the problem this year is the cap jump which cldve been avoided by denominating contracts as a % of the cap instead of in dollars

i've actually never heard that floated before, that's a pr obvious and smart idea

thx

crazy thing is its in some way already the case, players get 50% of revenue

(also getting rid of max salaries)

That sounds like profit sharing!

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i have a hard time feeling bad for people making 25 million a year missing out on money because of max salaries

― k3vin k., Monday, June 27, 2016 10:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't really either but what other industry has a max salary? It's not like there's some tech commissioner telling Tim Cook his salary has to be capped so things are fair to google. If someone wants to pay Lebron (entire cap minus 14 minimum contracts) and see what happens I'd kind of be all for it!

Though I guess it's all fallout from sports leagues being arranged as one business entity that splits things 30 ways so maybe that analogy is bad

the hawks want in on the KD party, which is understandable, if they get immediately spurned their next priority is........dwight, which is not

Anyway Batum would be rad on the Warriors way better than Barnes and kinda underrated

its prob also in the league's interest to prevent stupid teams from being able to handicap themselves too badly e.g. the current state of brooklyn nets is about as bad as things can get within the rules

individual player salary max also reflects the fact that the players union is primarily made up of non max players who want a bigger slice of the pie

middle class wants more

i actually like how byzantine the nba salary structure is its fun + funny

if you're gonna have a cap you might as well have a max salary just to protect the owners from themselves imo

the current structure feels like it works really well in keeping the good players distributed around the league, i would think long and hard before changing anything big

i think if there was a cap but no max you would see the best players distributed in a weirdly even way. there would be no way for a team to keep i.e. durant and westbrook together unless they mutually agreed to turn down $50 million per year contracts from other teams

and if there was no cap mark cuban would have like a $350 million payroll and it would be weird & bad

so in that sense i think cap/max makes the most sense esp when you consider that the guys who get screwed the most are also the most marketable athletes in the world and make a bunch of money off the court

if i was going to change anything about the cap/salary structure it would be how long it takes players to get into unrestricted free agency. that durant's career has gone through like 5 revolutions before he has even had the chance to choose what team he plays for -- or that demarcus cousins has never been an unrestricted FA -- is crazy.

yeah the current setup lets you actually assemble a Big Three but prevents Big Fours and makes it difficult to keep Threes together for an extended time, that seems like a good spot to land imo

we don't want to stray too far from the NBA Jam Ideal where every team has 2 good players

if i was going to change anything about the cap/salary structure it would be how long it takes players to get into unrestricted free agency. that durant's career has gone through like 5 revolutions before he has even had the chance to choose what team he plays for -- or that demarcus cousins has never been an unrestricted FA -- is crazy.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:36 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well both of them cldve been free agents after 5 years theres just such a huge incentive to sign that first max deal since yr team cn offer it to you early

right

i love how players have incentive to stay that long

imo keeping stars on their teams is generally preferable and we all know they cn get out if they really want to

agreed

I actually like how the NBA is structured

this spike in the cap over the next two years is making for some really entertaining scenarios

that demarcus cousins is having his career wasted by the vivek ranadive era kings makes it hard for me to feel much sympathy for the idea that players shouldn't have more incentive to bold shitty situations much earlier than they currently do

bolt*

he cld prob demand a trade if he wanted

the cap spike is awkward i dont like how it's so sudden but my understanding is the players union didnt approve of smoothing it out

teams like the dubs that have a bunch of core players signed under the old cap have like a 2-3 year window to abuse that now

xp yep. and he was with the maloofs for his rookie contract, prob thought things might change under the new guy

so many teams have the space to utilize/abuse it now xp not jus the warriors. and also it can't be stated enough that curry is making pennies which allows a ton of wiggle room. everything will change after next year when he gets paid

RIP to the legend Pat Summit btw. only 64 :(

yeah but because the cap is going up twice, they can actually possibly max durant and then max curry next year while still retaining klay/draymond. after that if the cap plateaus or goes down they will have 0 flexibility and will degrade but they'd have assembled the Fuckernaut for 2 years at least