i have a hard time feeling bad for people making 25 million a year missing out on money because of max salaries
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
the problem this year is the cap jump which cldve been avoided by denominating contracts as a % of the cap instead of in dollars
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link
i've actually never heard that floated before, that's a pr obvious and smart idea
― Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
thx
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link
crazy thing is its in some way already the case, players get 50% of revenue
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link
(also getting rid of max salaries)
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link
That sounds like profit sharing!
― Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link
Kurt Helin @basketballtalk 2m2 minutes agoAP Source: Timberwolves adding NBA’s 1st Chinese owner
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link
well i'm voting for trump now for sure
― Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link
gotta man
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:14 (seven years ago) link
what your man got to do with me?
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link
aint
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 05:22 (seven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Monday, June 27, 2016 10:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't really either but what other industry has a max salary? It's not like there's some tech commissioner telling Tim Cook his salary has to be capped so things are fair to google. If someone wants to pay Lebron (entire cap minus 14 minimum contracts) and see what happens I'd kind of be all for it!
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link
Though I guess it's all fallout from sports leagues being arranged as one business entity that splits things 30 ways so maybe that analogy is bad
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
the hawks want in on the KD party, which is understandable, if they get immediately spurned their next priority is........dwight, which is not
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
Anyway Batum would be rad on the Warriors way better than Barnes and kinda underrated
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
its prob also in the league's interest to prevent stupid teams from being able to handicap themselves too badly e.g. the current state of brooklyn nets is about as bad as things can get within the rules
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link
individual player salary max also reflects the fact that the players union is primarily made up of non max players who want a bigger slice of the pie
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
middle class wants more
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
i actually like how byzantine the nba salary structure is its fun + funny
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
if you're gonna have a cap you might as well have a max salary just to protect the owners from themselves imo
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link
the current structure feels like it works really well in keeping the good players distributed around the league, i would think long and hard before changing anything big
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
i think if there was a cap but no max you would see the best players distributed in a weirdly even way. there would be no way for a team to keep i.e. durant and westbrook together unless they mutually agreed to turn down $50 million per year contracts from other teams
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link
and if there was no cap mark cuban would have like a $350 million payroll and it would be weird & bad
so in that sense i think cap/max makes the most sense esp when you consider that the guys who get screwed the most are also the most marketable athletes in the world and make a bunch of money off the court
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
if i was going to change anything about the cap/salary structure it would be how long it takes players to get into unrestricted free agency. that durant's career has gone through like 5 revolutions before he has even had the chance to choose what team he plays for -- or that demarcus cousins has never been an unrestricted FA -- is crazy.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
yeah the current setup lets you actually assemble a Big Three but prevents Big Fours and makes it difficult to keep Threes together for an extended time, that seems like a good spot to land imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
we don't want to stray too far from the NBA Jam Ideal where every team has 2 good players
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:36 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well both of them cldve been free agents after 5 years theres just such a huge incentive to sign that first max deal since yr team cn offer it to you early
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
right
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
i love how players have incentive to stay that long
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link
imo keeping stars on their teams is generally preferable and we all know they cn get out if they really want to
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
agreed
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
I actually like how the NBA is structured
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
this spike in the cap over the next two years is making for some really entertaining scenarios
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
that demarcus cousins is having his career wasted by the vivek ranadive era kings makes it hard for me to feel much sympathy for the idea that players shouldn't have more incentive to bold shitty situations much earlier than they currently do
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
bolt*
he cld prob demand a trade if he wanted
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
the cap spike is awkward i dont like how it's so sudden but my understanding is the players union didnt approve of smoothing it out
teams like the dubs that have a bunch of core players signed under the old cap have like a 2-3 year window to abuse that now
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
xp yep. and he was with the maloofs for his rookie contract, prob thought things might change under the new guy
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
so many teams have the space to utilize/abuse it now xp not jus the warriors. and also it can't be stated enough that curry is making pennies which allows a ton of wiggle room. everything will change after next year when he gets paid
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
RIP to the legend Pat Summit btw. only 64 :(
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link
yeah but because the cap is going up twice, they can actually possibly max durant and then max curry next year while still retaining klay/draymond. after that if the cap plateaus or goes down they will have 0 flexibility and will degrade but they'd have assembled the Fuckernaut for 2 years at least
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
if the dubs get durant the rest of the league shd leave and form a new league and not let them in
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/747824165932105728
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
lmao they bought a custom filter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
boogie could demand a trade but a. that turns him into a person hated by the fans and (further) seen as petulant by the media and b. that still doesn't mean he gets to choose where he wants to go
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
seems wise for the warriors to sign batum with the intention to do a sign and trade with durant next year
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 June 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 49s49 seconds agoThe Sixers plan to be serious suitors for Golden State restricted free agent Harrison Barnes at the start of free agency, league sources say
heh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
its not a bad idea, they need to overpay a decent player to give their fans some life
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link