Week XI: The Browns Control Their Own Destiny or: How I Stopped Worrying About Flacco's Bomb

Cleveland at Cincinnati
Some other games

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extra marks for refusing the acknowledge the sport or year

http://printableteamschedules.com/images/nfl/nflweek11schedule.gif

you could make a reasonable case for every visiting team winning, with the possible exception of minnesota

Not sure Atlanta has another win in them this year.

no they just don't look like hey can score pts rn

they switched the pack/nyg game out of primetime in favor of den/kc fyi

phew

I dunno how the conference/network alignment works, but now CBS doesn't have a late game and Fox has an extra?

yea cbs moved the bolts/fins game to 4

Last week 8-6, season 100-47

Colts @ Titans – Wow, the Colts just look a bit tired and beat up. I still got to think Indy wins this one though.
Jets @ Bills – I’ll take the Jets, but I don’t trust them.
Ravens @ Bears – This is a pickem game. Probably fugly. I’ll take Chicago at home.
Browns @ Bengals – These games go either way. I’ll take the Bengals at home.
Raiders @ Texans – Both of these teams are a mess. I’ll go with the Texans.
Cards @ Jags – Cards
Chargers @ Dolphins – I don’t like either club, but I will take the Chargers.
Wash. @ Philly – Eagles, as they seem to be on a bit of a roll.
Lions @ Steelers – Lions
Falcons @ Bucs – I’d think Atlanta, but who knows.
KC @ Denver – This is the big one. Wow…I guess Denver in a nailbiter.
Niners @ Saints – Another interesting game, I’ll take SF.
Vikings @ Seattle – Seahawks at home.
Pack @ Giants – Wow the Pack are beat up. I’ll take them to win though.
NE @ Carolina – Another interesting matchup…I’ll still take the Pats.

i'd be surprised if KC/Denver was a nailbiter. peyton is still playing right?

On two bad ankles. And an upper spine that could probably still turn loose of his head at any moment.

i am excited to see what the chiefs defense does in this game, but peyton is definitely playing at a level right now where you have to score a certain number of points to beat him, and that is not really the kc gameplan. they are going to have to do something special to limit the damage. they could do worse than go back and watch the '10 superbowl.

On two bad ankles. And an upper spine that could probably still turn loose of his head at any moment.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:00 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If any team was capable of doing it, its the one they are about to play.

yup. i don't think kc is as good as sd, but this is a terrible terrible matchup for denver's offense. if manning stays in though, i sorta don't see how denver doesn't get 30 pts. that'll be hard for dilfer to do afaict.

yup. i don't think kc is as good as sd

seriously?

all i can say is that if kc wins a superbowl this year i will be furious

what if they make it to the superbowl but lose due to clock management issues

idk if niners can put up enough points to withstand a brees assault.

if they make it to the superbowl but lose due to clock management issues that will make my heart lol

i know everyone is sick of this but this is amazing

http://www.leonardpierce.com/blog/2013/11/12/terror-incognito-or-the-haze-of-war/

Packers tight end Jermichael Finley will undergo spinal cord fusion surgery, according to his agent

that's what peyton had right? so he'll be out a long while if he comes back at all. horrible.

Yeah, he'll be out indefinitely. And I think his kids and family will probably sway him from returning (they'd already said as much with his previous injury).

part of me is hoping he doesn't try to come back, as much as it sucks given how well he was playing before he got hurt!

I'm curious to see what KC will do this weekend against Denver. I'd probably be thinking more KC if it was in Arrowhead, as that place gets real noisy but the game is in Denver. KC's got some talent on defense, especially at linebacker. That said, they haven't played any of the high powered passing games except Dallas, who it seems they were able to keep the big play from happening. They got the Chargers and then the Broncos again at home the two next weeks, so this is a big three weeks for KC.

Todd Christensen had a great set of hands. The guy had a couple of 90+ catch seasons when that was a really crazy thing to do. I remember watching him on the Tom Flores era Raiders teams.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-former-raiders-tight-end-todd-christensen-dies-184147843--nfl.html

spinal fusion surgery, not spinal cord fusion, no one wants that.

free energy forever tho

that's cold

the joy of ilx: nerd lolz in the football thread

http://www.leonardpierce.com/blog/2013/11/12/terror-incognito-or-the-haze-of-war/

This was really good. lots to relate to there. when I first saw those text messages and voicemails from Incognito I thought that it really wasn't much different to things people have said to me (if you replace the n-word with "dirty Jew"). Some people just seemed to get off on being nasty on the field (but are generally nice otherwise) while others are a little more sinister, the type with the same kind of upbringing as this guy, who are told from birth to go sock someone in the mouth. I'm guessing there are guys like Incognito at all levels of football, and maybe a bunch more in the military too. Football just seems to harbor that sort of thing. You really can't even make it through a full practice without getting pissed at somebody.

Ed Reed is a Jet.

EDREED! EDREED! EDREED IS A JET.

http://www.realcrash.com/images/elton-john-benny-and-the-jets.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-Yo-Xb5qs#t=88

That is pretty damn awesome, would like to have seen the first part of the clip.

lolz how did Spergon Wynn get on there

hmm

Minnesota Vikings

Following the 2000 season, September 3, 2001, Wynn was traded to the Minnesota Vikings, along with RB Travis Prentice, in exchange for draft picks in the 2002 and 2003 NFL drafts. Wynn was a third string backup to Daunte Culpepper and Todd Bouman in the 2001 and 2002 seasons and played in the last three games of the 2001 season, starting two of them. This was due to season-ending injuries to both Culpepper and Bouman.

I remember being mad at Spergon Wynn for not beating the Ravens in the season finale in 2001, because if he had, my Dolphins would have played the Seahawks in the wild card match instead of the Ravens, which would have been a better matchup for us.

i dunno, randy might be thinking of the great Todd Bouman. lord who is Todd Bouman, a name that does not ring any bells?

ha! i remember throwing a fit because the Colts started Jim Sorgi in the 2nd half and resting Manning in week 16 when the Browns needed a Colts victory to go to the playoffs in 07

Jim Sorgi!

jim fucking sorgi

don't get me started on jim sorgi

Todd Bouman was Culpepper's backup. I remember he got a few starts. god QBs were so bad in that day and age that when Alex Van Pelt did pretty good in relief of Rob Johnson one year they were about to make him an extension offer and make him the starter until Bledsoe became available.

i can barely watch andy reid talk w/out getting irrationally angry

Maybe you need to call a couple time outs to think about it. (Ha!)

Lord Todd "God" Bouman... was a big idol to yokel racist motherfuckers who didn't think Duante had "leadership abilities" or wasn't a "student of the game" or whatever euphemisms it was

oh lord

what do you mean no foul

jesus

not catchable

yeah fair

idk couldnt gronk have come back and adjusted

game was lost on that 4 and 1. actually on that 3 and 1.

whatever, not the worst loss

yeah i thought gronk could've come back to the ball if he wasn't shoved then tackled in the other direction

wtf

I'm really glad Carolina won but how was that not some kind of defensive foul

Guys that game was just wow

i mean there's that game and there's indy/denver, were there any other amazing games this year?

god damn I wish they'd left Brady's mic on at the end there

gronk had no chance of coming back through two players for that pass. it might have been PI but only on the strictest technicality so ehhhhhh, panthers won it rightfully imo

bill shouldn't have kicked

agree that the panthers deserved the w

agree that i want the 'sound fx' show where you get to hear all the real trash talk & brady yelling 'that's f***ing bullshit' at the refs etc

i think it is okay not to call the foul but once the flag went down picking it up is a bad look when there is any doubt. it just makes the game seem like it was decided by the officials and it was too good a game for that. i hope that isn't the storyline out of the game.

pats-saints was obv major

broncos-cowboys was pretty massive, saints-niners was pretty good/controversial last week

http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG-chargers and eagles-chargers but no one was watching those

maybe it's not PI but I'm shocked it wasn't holding or illegal contact or something. kinda stupid to bear hug Gronk like that but I agree that Carolina deserved it

also I think it's hard to say whether or not Gronk would've had a play on the ball. he was held for a while.

hey now i watched the hatcats chargers game

man belichick is PISSED

i don't think it will be the storyline much as espn will try.

i mean i know what the rules are but mostly i'm pissed that regardless of the throw kuechly's interference was unbelievably blatant, like could you even try to play legal pass defense?

i love belichick's 'i saw what you saw' -> saying 'let the league explain it, this is bullshit' without actually saying it

illegal contact and holding both have to be before the pass. and PI the ball has to be catchable, and in the circumstances you can't say for sure either decision would be wrong. but yeah changing the decision is the worst option.

fwiw i am gonna disagree and say that panthers didn't really deserve to win on the balance of play, but they are def a good team.

jesus i haven't seen bill like this in ages

the assembled media can't even bring themselves to ask a question, they are too scared

this is terrific tv

"didn't get one tonight [an explanation from the officials], didn't get one in the baltimore game, guess that's the way we do it"

between the mccourty call and the kuechly noncall i don't love the way this ended but it was entertaining.

mccourty was pretty blatant i have no idea what he was complaining about

I don't think you can hold anymore than McCourty did there

i want to see it again, on the replay it did look like olson was holding him

i didn't see the personal foul on mankins, did he punch someone in the face?

looking at rest of sched, i think indy should take the 2nd afc bye with a win or two to spare. altho they have been crazy inconsistent

colts
@ Arizona
vs Tennessee
@ Cincinnati
vs Houston
@ Kansas City
vs Jacksonville

patriots
vs Denver
@ Houston
vs Cleveland
@ Miami
@ Baltimore
vs Buffalo

if brady had just thrown that ball a little deeper they wouldve had to call the pass interference, oh well w/e p cool game in its own way, not a whole lot of possessions lot of clock chewing going on

jesus i haven't seen bill like this in ages

― call all destroyer, Monday, November 18, 2013 11:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didnt watch the press conference but saw it compared to both tarkovsky and lars von trier films on tweets

yes those tweets were accurate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZaHGV2IgAAsIwv.jpg

gronk couldve come back if he wasn't getting a nice big hug

id like to see another angle to check if gronk was looking at the ball forlornly

tom is wearing an outstanding sport coat

pats could easily sweep that remaining schedule tbh

funny thing about getting the three seed from the pats perspective is that they'd be likely to face either the dolphins (rightfully no pats fan would think twice about the pats crushing miami) or the jets (every pats fan would be shitting his pants)

there's a good chance neither miami or the jets makes it in. next week jets @ bmore is basically huge. ravens have 3 winnable games at home coming up that would get them to 7-6. and miami and the jets have to play each other twice yet.

but yeah, adding bmore to the mix does not help new england's cause. that is 3 potential matchups out of 4 (inc. kansas city) for their first playoff game where basically they need the opposition offense to lose the game. all for the eventual reward of being one score ahead at the start of the 4th quarter vs the broncos and then losing by 21 points.

@AlbertBreer: Asked Steve Smith what happened w/Talib. "You're gonna have to ask him. He didn't finish the game. Ice up, son."

week 12 - ice up, son

otm

Pretty into this

http://www.brownscast.com/podcast/2015/7/10/episode-1-joe-thomas