WorldTour and Pro Cycling Nonsense 2012

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question for euro/brits:

what is that cool sounding melancholic, electronic (sounds like a tightly phased Fender Rhodes) incidental music snip they play at stage endings shortly before they switch to Tennis, etc.?

peter g.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

think it's in a minor key, drums come in after about 10 seconds...

queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

had insomnia over the weeekend and discovered the videos at Cyclocosm, fun stuff

hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

who is robert millar's doppelganger?

I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 31 August 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link

Bon Scott from AC/DC

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 31 August 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

Vuelta is awesome btw. All the mountain stages have been attack after attack after attack. So much so I'm actually warming to Contador (Valverde can still fuck off though). Best GT of the season.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I missed the first half of the race but the last two days have been great, more GC attacks on the last climb yesterday than in the whole of the Tour.

I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 3 September 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link

That was insane, almost made the Angliru look tame.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

I think that was the most brutal finish I've ever seen

I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Bola del Mundo on saturday is another leg breaker, I can't see Contador giving up even if resistance does seem to be futile.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 3 September 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

It's an epic battle deserving of the cliche. I know they need the rest day tomorrow, but I'll be jonesin'.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 3 September 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

Holy crap I can't wait to get home and watch the highlights.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Read 2/3rds of the Tyler Hamilton book last night. I'm not really shocked by any of it but it is very very detailed.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 6 September 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

I want to get it, but apparently the British version has been edited (because of stricter libel laws) so I want to get it from America.

I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 6 September 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

you guys see the cn forum where vaughters talks about jaksche vdv danielson and dz. crazy times.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18436

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 September 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks Hunter - an interesting thread (though there are a few nutjobs on there by the look of it)

I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to be so gutted if sky turn out to be doping. Not surprised, much, but gutted.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Thursday, 6 September 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Why wouldn't you be surprised, Surfing? General cynicism as to professional cycling? Suspicion of Sky? Suspicion of cyclists within Sky able to avoid Sky testing? I would be surprised, I think. I was speaking to a friend (and fellow ilxor) earlier this year and said as much when he asked what I thought.

Just with regard to some of what is being said on that forum - there are some parts of Millar's book that make me feel uneasy. something like... hmm, how to put it? an impression of intense, pathological self-justification perhaps warping things into a narrative that suits where he is now? Is that too runic? I'm not sure it's even relevant or useful (i've written this bit and deleted it several times).

Fizzles, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

After winning my heart for the last three weeks, Bert goes and ruins it all with this:

http://cdn3.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/09/09/2/pic307648864_600.jpg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 9 September 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

Betsy Andreu live on tourchats.com in 5 minutes

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 10 September 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

All of the above, Fizzles. 30 years of following the sport. Sky not sticking to their manifesto, hiring Leinders. Sky's results bordering on unbelievable. Kimmage's stint with them cancelled. Wiggo changing his tune.

Even so, I'm taking my sister and one of my nephews to Knowsley today to watch the guys ride in, and I'm thrilled to be going. Still a fan!

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 10 September 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link

remember how all the breaks stayed away in the high mountain stages this year? they would've been caught and blown away on the last climb back in the old days. even at the dauphine, that one stage to morzine which had everyone start up with the 'UK postal' stuff, quintana from movistar rode away from them. i think sky's results are about as beliveable as they can be in the current climate. at least they actually take responsibility for training their riders, rather than leaving it to the riders themselves to organise a program (or 'program'). look at how rabo are reconfiguring themselves along these lines:http://inrng.com/2012/09/rabobank-revolution/

the TTT world championship is tomorrow!

Death From A Butt 1979 (haitch), Saturday, 15 September 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

tony martin just caught his two-minute man in the TT ...contador

chriiiiiist

the ghost of 29 unicycles (haitch), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

I wish I wasn't in this all day meeting

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

Looks like it was an exciting race. I like all the riders who made the podium... and I've never been able to warm to Contador for some reason. Shame about Pinotti's collarbone.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Momentum still building behind the Paul Kimmage Defense campaign http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/paul-kimmage-defense-fund

Kimmage may not be the most likeable, but what McQuaid and Verbruggen are doing is out of order.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'm assuming anyone interested in the case already knows about it, btw. I wouldn't know where to start trying to unravel the cover-ups / conspiracy theories at this point. The most interesting stuff is about to happen.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

I donated yesterday. I'm not Kimmage's greatest fan, but Kimmage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McQuaid/Verbruggen.

Mountain Excitement (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

I donated on Saturday, when the chipin wasn't working very reliably. I think it went through, though. I think a lot of people appreciate the chance to spit in Verbruggen's soup.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

I feel the same as NBS, happy to spit in the UCI soup

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

I haven' got the book yet, but this Hamilton interview already makes for uncomfortable reading.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/interview-tyler-hamilton-cyclist-1-2555924

Confused Turtle (Zora), Monday, 1 October 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/swiss-court-finds-in-ucis-favour-in-landis-defamation-case

Article two of the verdict goes into quite specific detail as to what Landis is not allowed to say about the UCI in the future, noting that it is forbidden for him to say that the UCI, McQuaid and Verbruggen “have concealed cases of doping, received money for doing so, have accepted money from Lance Armstrong to conceal a doping case, have protected certain racing cyclists, concealed cases of doping, have engaged in manipulation, particularly of tests and races, have hesitated and delayed publishing the results of a positive test on Alberto Contador, have accepted bribes, are corrupt, are terrorists, have no regard for the rules, load the dice, are fools, do not have a genuine desire to restore discipline to cycling, are full of shit, are clowns, their words are worthless, are liars, are no different to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, or to make any similar other allegations of that kind.”

you all a buncha takers (say the sad bells of romney) (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't been paying close attention - has Armstrong said anything dumber than this yet?

Armstrong said that people need to “move on.”

“Some people don’t do that. They sit around and talk about the past,” said Armstrong. “You always get high-school friends who sit around and talk about ‘hey remember that time…’ and I’m like ‘Why are you asking me about that?’"

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2012/10/humpday-news-shorts-5/

hot slag (lukas), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

For someone who no longer cares and thinks it's time to move on, he spends an incredible amount of time and money trying to discredit USADA
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/09/4895768/armstrong-renews-criticism-of.html

Mountain Excitement (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link

Because he knew this was coming:

David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST
USADA statement: Armstrong's team "ran the most sophisticaed, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen."

Confused Turtle (Zora), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

contains "direct documentary evidence including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong and confirm the disappointing truth about the deceptive activities of the USPS Team, a team that received tens of millions of American taxpayer dollars in funding".
the team's doping conspiracy "was professionally designed to groom and pressure athletes to use dangerous drugs, to evade detection, to ensure its secrecy and ultimately gain an unfair competitive advantage through superior doping practices".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19903716

zappi, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I can see Lance's point now. You've got David Walsh sitting on your couch, drinking beer, when suddenly he's all like: "hey Lance, remember that time in high school when you were at the center of the most sophisticaed, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen?" So annoying.

hot slag (lukas), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

202 page Reasoned Decision case file :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/109619079/Reasoned-Decision

lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

This is a pretty sobering take on all the back-patting going on:

http://stevetilford.com/?p=22105

lil queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

Rabobank are no more :(
"We are no longer convinced that the international professional world of cycling can make this a clean and fair sport"

ざっぴ (zappi), Friday, 19 October 2012 09:11 (eleven years ago) link

Very Sad news

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 19 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

team will go on next year highroad-style, at least

single pun theory (haitch), Saturday, 20 October 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

finally dl'ed the hamilton book. lols all around. armstrong even slightly more assholey than expected, doping about where i expected, maybe slightly more egregious. disliked the "up close and personal" style intro a bit (over the corny limit), but it's a fun superfast read from there.

last mansplain to ja rule (Hunt3r), Monday, 22 October 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

Bobby julich confessed today and was given the boot by sky (rider 4 for those keeping score)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe that Sky hasn't sacked Mick Rogers yet...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link


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