Went with T.O.K. in the end though "No Letting Go" is pretty much perfect.
inclined to do several of these
Interested to see which ones you select. Will they be all from 2002-04?
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i remember hardly anyone voted on a ragga ragga ragga poll :(
― just sayin, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i think i've only heard 4 of these :/
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha ha that's the only problem isn't it, my knowledge of riddims afterwards is much more spotty. I'll see how this one goes.
I think of the non-big-singles "Galang Gal" is my favourite too, but really choosing between the top four or so is like cutting out a piece of my heart.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
"get busy," "galang gal" and "never leave you" are all on my personal songs-of-the-decade list, so it's hard to choose.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Even though I haven't heard all of these, the ones I do know convince me that the others are all amazing.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
From what I know here, a close draw between "No Letting Go" and "Never Leave You," but I have to give it to Lumidee because the mix of her vocals is so perfect. Tim, is it also fair to categorize "Pon de Replay" as Diwali?
― sw00ds, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
this is so hard. btw the Soul Rebels Brass Band recorded a diwali megamix of sorts on their live-in-the-studio album Urban Legend, with 'get busy', 'no letting go', 'welcome home', and maybe some other stuff i'm missing.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
oh and 'never leave you'
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Galang Gal is such an awesome version, it kind of has to be that. Not listened to the whole thing in a while but I don't recall many duds on this.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
you can hear a clip of the soul rebels thing at amazon, track #2.
tempted to go for lumidee btw.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i'll cop to having only heard the big crossover american singles, but of those i think "no letting go" is about as perfect a song as humanly possible
― sbarro never dies (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-x6kSr8NHg
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IuoTB5xBSM
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Tim, is it also fair to categorize "Pon de Replay" as Diwali?
I'd say no if only because I think there are both heaps of other riddims and a fair number of other R&B singles that sound closer to Diwali than Rihanna does.
I find "Elephant Message" slightly weaker relatively speaking, maybe because of the intrusive way that the synth line and Elephant match eachother. OTOH Elephant's voicing for lenky's follow-up riddim Dreamwever ("Blessed") is astonishing.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i'd say that rihanna song is diwali-inspired, like 'single ladies'
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
The problem with one riddim polls (this one sort of excepted) is that usually there are at most four or five big versions that everyone knows (unless you bought the riddim album).
Diwali is really one of the exceptions though. No one has even mentioned how great "Sufferer" and "Party Time" are.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
hang on isn't missy's "pass that dutch" a fairly big omission here? not that i'd vote for it (lumidee all the way)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
no
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
While I like "Galang Gal" a lot, it feels like just another great TOK track to me. "No Letting Go" OTOH seems really special.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean it has handclaps, but the rhythm of the claps & kick drum are very different from diwali. even if it samples some sounds from diwali (which i don't think it does?), it's a different beat.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:42 AM Bookmark
this
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:16 AM Bookmark
and this
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
based on my cursory Youtube perusal, I have been totally OTM in this thread
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
what happened to TOK anyway
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
They just released a new album like a month ago.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
more like TKO (of their career)
― no hongro (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
btw happy early diwali everyone
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Our World, I admit that I haven't heard.
1. Intro Our World2. World Is Mine3. Guardian Angel4. Couple Up5. Gangsters Never Die6. I Wann Love You7. Gimmie Little (If You Want Me)8. Me And My Dawgs9. Die For You10. Afternoon Pornstar11. It's Over12. Miss World (With Beenie Man)13. Whining14. Gyrate15. Get Out (Don't Come Back)16. Live It Up
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently a new Ward 21 album just came out too. I will wait for it be 99 cents on Ernie's Bs just like I did the last one, I think.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i was gonna say they dropped off the greensleeves comps but no, there was a tok track on rrr 2009
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
13. Whining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE-MJgcAnNQ
― am0n, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
xpYeah but there is always a weird proprietary thing w/ VP artists and Greensleeves artists on those comps.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Are we doing this bcz Diwali is Saturday?
― existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
FFS "Pass That Dutch" can stay the hell away from my poll thread.
Diwali seems to be the one case where everyone says "hey, you know that pop song with some vaguely dancehall-inspired beat and handclaps? That's the diwali riddim, right? Right??
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry that sounds excessively snarky. It's just that "Pass That Dutch" strikes me as a particularly depressing diwali-soundalike (musically at least; no issues with Missy's performance).
Another good poll would be "best fauxmaican R&B/rap beat 2002-2009".
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I hope this poll gets more votes than my ill-fated Best Version of Sleng Teng Riddim poll. :(
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, that needs a nomination thread
xp
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
"no letting go" is a work of genius, the quality of the song itself being on equal sitting with the wow factor of the riddim, but i'm a sucker for that little synth riff in "elephant message" and just the whole concept of an "elephant message" in general
― you don't have to be fake and phony (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 18 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
what a cruel poll! went with elephant message..
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 19 October 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 19 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Run off!
― Alex in SF, Monday, 19 October 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
nice
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 19 October 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Listening to the Greensleeves Diwali riddim album right now. Forgot how great some of these versions are. Assassin is particularly choice.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Fake horns on "Elephant Message" chorus make the whole thing.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Not sure if this is a challops, but I think I prefer "Pengeleng" to "Galang Gal".
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Beenie Man really doesn't like gays and lesbians. Despressingly catchy bit of homophobia.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ele's chorus has "me no like no fassy"
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
First 10 tracks are just ridiculously strong "Sufferer" to "Overcome". Maybe the best collection of talent on a single contemporary riddim that I can think of. Still Spragga, Degree and Bling Dawg to go (plus the great instrumental which was the basis for the Sean Paul version IIRC.)
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
who the hell is madd anju
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
wait the little fake horn line in elephant message is from 99 red balloons?? looool
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Madd Anju was a minor 00's talent. Probably most famous in my mind for "Cellular Minutes" on the Clappas riddim.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
what other riddims could be polled? mud-up? punanny?
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i have always thought of that song as elephant man's version of 99 red balloons, didn't even know its title until this thread
kinda annoyed at how well "never leave you" did, imo it's such a shitty sounding cheapo version of the diwali compared to most of these tracks
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Red Alert
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Street Sweeper
ya red alert
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
should definitely be a coolie dance poll, always seemed like that was the 2nd biggest US crossover riddim after diwali
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda annoyed at how well "never leave you" did― some dude, Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:49 PM
srsly. how many logins does lex have
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay Spragga is just okay, but Degree is awesome as always on "Inna". Suspect the quality is going to dip a little from here on out.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
overrating lumidee is an ilx tradition that predates the lex
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Vital Lumidee Qns
ha, et tu blount?
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Crissy D version is pretty sweet actually. She's on the Bubble Up riddim album IIRC.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
degree's 'inna' seems to get really good about halfway in
― am0n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Completely missed Hawkeye track (did it even play) but Bling Dawg is great as always.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
really? i think the beat is a lot higher in the mix and less cluttered than a lot of these. and the melodies are great.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
^ Agree. It's kind of cut up, you can tell they kinda chopped up the beat on the instrumental parts to make the song and it sounds kind of raw, but I like the end result.
― throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
vol. 2?
― A. U. Khan (am0n), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
What riddim should we poll?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Coolie Dance would hopefully get a couple of votes.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 May 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
happy Diwali ILM
― elephant (rob), Friday, 5 November 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
crissy d is great
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 4 November 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
need vol. 2
― just sayin, Friday, 4 November 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link
the mustard crissy d puts on 'champion lover' has made the phrase bounce around inside my head like a ping pong ball
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNjO0Busqog
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link