http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Pathe.Actuelle.2/pathe.actuelle.2.htm
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Grey.Gull.1/image/grey.gull.1.gif
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Aeolian.Vocalion.2/image/aeolianvocalion2.gif
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:10 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Mimosa.3/image/mimosa.3.gif
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Homo.Baby/image/homo.baby.gif
huh, huh, "homo-baby"
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Nadsco/image/nadsco.gif
Nadsco OTM.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1900-1909.pages/Busy.Bee.Record/image/busy.bee.record.gifFounded in 1904, this company had a Sherwin Bisbee as one of its principals (which probably gave rise to the label name). Originally, the company made machines which played outsized cylindrical records, but as the public began to show a preference for discs, switched their product line over in 1906
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1920-1929.pages/Beltona.1920.1929.1/image/beltona.1920.1929.1.gif
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i might scan a bunch of vintage 78 sleeves & post them on this thread if i can't find an archive readymade online.
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1940-1949.pages/Beltona.1/image/beltona.1.gif
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.tedstaunton.com/labels/1940-1949.pages/Beltona.2/image/beltona.2.gif
― ian, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Just over a cent a disc on that ebay auction, that is insanely cheap. You only need to cherry pick a handful of them and you'll be in profit.
― Billy Dods, Saturday, 18 October 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably already cherry-picked, no? Outside of collectible labels are most 78s actually worth anything? I guess most collectors just trade them with each other.
― Matt #2, Saturday, 18 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
wow. beautiful labels.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 18 October 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Jesus, talk about eye candy! LOL at "Homo-Baby", too.
― Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 18 October 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
why do i spend all my spare time now reading 78 auction lists? help me.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link
also i want old issues of 78 quarterly.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link
has an ILXor ever participated in Nauck's 78 auctions? I made really low bids on a bunch country & blues titles, and i probably won't win any of them, but you never know i guess?
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link
you gotta figure he's got several hundred bidders per auction at leaast? maybe several thousand?
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.78rpm.com/images/auction/5790_BabyBonnieGE.gif
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.78rpm.com/images/auction/5902_SloppyHenryOK.gif
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Do you also play them, Ian? Just curious.
― Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah. I bought a portable turntable with a 78 speed option, for the living room. I plug old computer speakers into it. Audiophiles and serious 78 collectors would probably be appalled.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link
anybody know where i can get a good sounding 78 record player? preferably one that i can hook up to my stereo, not one of those old-school windup ones.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i believe numark has a fairly affordable model that will play 78s (as well as LPs and 45s of course.)
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.turntablelab.com/dj_equipment/1/132/5007.html
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link
good prewar blues-related article in this month's Harper's -- with this tidbit relevant to this thread: "“The serious blues people are less than ten,” one who contributed to Pre-War Revenants told me. “Country, seven. Jazz, maybe fifteen. Most are to one degree or another sociopathic.” Mainly what they do is nurse decades-old grudges. A terrifically complicated bunch of people, but, for reasons perhaps not totally scrutable even to themselves, they have protected this music from time and indifference. The collectors were first of all the finders. Those trips to locate old blues guys started out as trips to canvass records. Gayle Dean Wardlow became a pest-control man at one point, in order to have a legitimate excuse to be walking around in black neighborhoods beating on doors. “Need your house sprayed?” Nah. “Got any weird old records in the attic?”"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link
oh man i should check that out.i have met a fair few weird 78 guys in past couple years. i really had no idea the numbers were that low, though who knows what constitutes a "serious" collector. i mean, i'm not a serious anything guy, so does that mean i have a chance of winning lesser condition discs if all the older 78 collectors already have copies in better than V condition? it's a funny thing to think about. weird old men. is there a single female 78 collector?
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
well, yeah "serious" to this guy must mean someone with an insanely deep collection and a willingness to spend fortunes on single records ....
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link
right. but you wonder how big the intermediate community is. or i do, anyway. people not willing to spend much money on a single record, competing over beat-up and worn copies of records the guys with big bank accounts wouldn't deign to touch.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link
talking about the american primitive II collection (same article):
To do it right entailed remastering everything fresh from 78s, which in turn meant coaxing out a transnational rabbit’s warren of the so-called serious collectors, a community widespread but dysfunctionally tight-knit, as by process of consolidation the major collections have come into the keeping of fewer and fewer hands over the years.
i guess as the older guys die off they might leave their collections to other record collectors.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Earlier this year a fairly advanced collector in New York donated his collection to Syracuse University upon his passing, and it was transported to the campus in something like six or seven FedEx trucks.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/05/record.collection.ap/index.html
yeah i think i read about that -- was it mostly classical? anyway, that's great that some major universities are interested in preserving alla that, like the santa barbara cylinder project thing. reading about these "single copy" records makes you realize how ephemeral a lot of that stuff is. makes you want to become a weird 78 collector!!!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link
ah, guess not: "Included are recordings from 1895 to the 1950s, with big band, jazz, country, blues, gospel, polka, folk, Broadway, Hawaiian and Latin among the genres. The collection also contains spoken-word, comedy and broadcast recordings, and "V-disks," which were distributed as entertainment to the U.S. military during World War II."
50 tons! Will be interesting to see if anything cool turns up with the v-disks. I think I was reading something recently about some lost early Charlie Parker being on v-disk.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to LP compilations of 78s really does lose a certain amount of the recordings' nuance. there is much more audible detail when the recording is heard at its intended 78 rotations per minute.
― ian, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link
"The first grooves of the Jimmy Strange sides are missing due to a rimbite; no other copies are known to exist."
^^ love shit like this.
― ian, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I bought a few things from the guy who runs the Old Homestead label. I bought up a bunch of their LP stock, and also found a few 78s in their catalog I wanted:
HARRELL, KELLY Victor 19596 New River Train/Rovin' Gambler LEAKE COUNTY REVELERS Columbia15189 Wednesday Night Waltz/Good Night Waltz GEORGIA YELLOW HAMMERS Victor 20943 My Carolina Girl/The Picture On The Wall
― ian, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't read this thread past the first 2 or 3 posts until now and I just knew that, like guys who talk about how such-and-so a girlie is "annoying" because they wanna make hump w/em, ian was going to turn into the 78 collector he was dissing.
Reassuring, it is.
― sheepie (libcrypt), Friday, 28 November 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
haha, i'm never going to turn into one of THOSE guys.i promise.
― ian, Friday, 28 November 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
In coming weeks I'll be digitizing a (small) private collection of Arabic 78s (abt. 90 pieces). Watch this space for mp3 action. If anyone has any suggestions for cleaning up the sound of the wavs once ripped, i'd love to hear 'em.
― ian, Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Awesome!
― ^likes brown, yellow, puerto rican, and haitian girls (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 January 2009 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i'm pretty psyched. i've never tried to do a decent restoration job on damaged source material before. so it'll be an experiment. but fun.
― ian, Thursday, 8 January 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm pushing megatons of love your way, Ian.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 8 January 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Super-curios about Arabic musics! Godspeed, ian.
But those old 78 labels are just heartbreakingly beautiful, and prove that the world has since fallen to ruin.
― Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 January 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Good luck, Ian. That's really cool.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 8 January 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Why are you so weird?
Just kidding -- Awesome! Keep us posted!
― tylerw, Thursday, 8 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
What they all said. :-)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I will probably miss these 1st time around, but I will bug you about them when I return to the US in mid-March. Many thanks.
Also, you probably know this, but go easy on the digital cleanup software. I'd rather hear crackle than weird digital waveform manipulation any day.
― sleeve, Thursday, 8 January 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link