When does Geir get back from his exile in wastes of the icy north?
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
in the wastes, even
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
this whole thing is just getting so patronizing. the poor silent majority can't protect itself?
yeah seriously law-of-the-jungle ideology like this is exactly what the SB is great against. the notion that people should either learn to be dicks back to people who're being dicks to them, or in some way develop strategies against hostile, antagonizing posters, is bullshit. but it fact, the silent majority can project itself. by clicking the suggest ban button.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 26 November 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
The problem with the silent majority is that they're fucking silent too fucking often.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Happy Thanksgiving!
― lift this towel, its just a nipple (HI DERE), Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
by clicking the suggest ban button.
e.g. being dicks, anonymously
― iatee, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
wait i.e.
I do think that if anyone clicks the SB button more than 10 times or so, a message should come up that says 'Wait - don't you think that you might be the problem here?'.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
only if it then gave you an option to sb the system
― iatee, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.p2fe.com/Silent_Majority_Badge_2.jpg
― Kiwi, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Stick that on your proud member.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
But don't post a picture of it to the WDYLL thread.
― sarahel, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
It's all making sense now...from the proud silent members at www.narlo.org:
"We give inspirational speeches to groups of 50 or more on freedom, liberty, the constitution and property rights. For details contact us by telephone at 1 800 682-7848 or by e-mail at: i✧✧✧@na✧✧✧.o✧✧"
― Kiwi, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
imo the sb system has been a pretty big failure and it seems like everyone but the mods is beginning to accept this.
I disagree pretty strongly with this! Not a mod etc.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
get a badge etc
― Kiwi, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i disagree too
― harbl, Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I disagree massively. SB is far from perfect but it's an improvement on unilateral modding imo, and I mean that without disrespect for the mods. As far as I can tell the SB system has made modding the boards a marginally less stressful job than it used to be, which means that reasonable people are more likely to be happy to do the job.
― Herman G. Neuname is the first European president (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 November 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
again, no disrespect, but is that the point? to make the mods' jobs easier?
― we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
to ban more people more efficiently
― harbl, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
power to the people... ilx "proud silent member" avatar please
― Kiwi, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
even if his 'white ribbon' review made me want to SB him
This is the fucking problem. SB'ing because of differing opinions. Engage the review, point out its flaws. Grapple with his taken position. State your own. Only press SB if you think someone is providing noise rather than signal. Critical comment is signal.
I am cool with the SB system because I never, ever think to click the button. It's there, unused, dormant, but its mere presence is placatory for many. Sadly, people rarely engage ideals of tolerance, community or broad-mindedness when they use it. They do so out of a Pavlovian response which dictates that a moment's disaffection ought to equal a lengthy ban.
People of ILX, press that button if and only if someone is directly and wilfully undermining your enjoyment of ILX, and only if they are showing signs of persisting in this behaviour. I know these words will fall on deaf ears, and I know a load of people will possibly SB this post for joeks (because invisible bans upon someone who isn't going to be 51'd ever, ever again are so lol-bringing), but please, try to look at it from the potential bannee's perspective. SB is there for a reason, and a dismally large number of you are misusing it.
― GET THAT BABY JESUS RIGHT UP YE (acoleuthic), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
hey dumbass he said it "made me want to SB him" not it "made me SB him" so basically he followed your guidelines
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
(Also, yes I know many SBs are given after someone has inadvertently annoyed a poster a number of times. Each annoyance, when taken in isolation, is trifling. At this juncture, I recommend a killfile or a gritted-teeth toleration. There will be other threads. Better still, let them know openly why they're being annoying, because subsequent persistence will be an SB'able offence under my proposed unofficial guidelines.)
(ha n/a but for many 'want to' becomes 'really does')
― GET THAT BABY JESUS RIGHT UP YE (acoleuthic), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
(Of course, this gets difficult, if what one poster perceives as intolerable and SB'able is deemed by the annoying poster as perfectly reasonable. Free speech issues are thus implicated and the whole thing gets too much for me to handle...just learn to live with each other kthxbi)
― GET THAT BABY JESUS RIGHT UP YE (acoleuthic), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/275370/20070419/004544.jpg
― Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
l-r: kate, lj, history mayne, harbl
― sarahel, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
why me???
― harbl, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus appears to be sitting on the banks of Lough Swilly there which is a bit of the Bible I wasn't aware of.
― Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
xp - because you & history mayne support the sb, and kate is against it - you are on opposite knees of jesus. Also, you said before that you were blond, I think.
― sarahel, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
does kinda look like me i guess
― harbl, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm fine with SB existing also, but what I am hating is the endless endless fucking whinging about it, jesus god on a pushbike.
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Thursday, 26 November 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Trayce the whinging is like the icing on the cake of suggest bans
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha well thats a better way of looking at it!
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
anti-SB ppl need to come up with something better than "let the moderators moderate!" (since old-timers know that back when it was just mods making the call, the howling over the moderators not having the right to make choices that impact the community was just as loud, and would be again) as a solution imo
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:06 PM (6 hours ago)
I was anti-sb back before it was cool to be anti-sb, and there have been many suggestions made on how to modify the system to make it more workable. for instance, a poll is required to finalize somebody's sb ban. that wouldn't have saved deeznuts or gabbneb, but it would've reprieved tuomas and jordan maybe. then you can really claim it's the will of the people, until then I still think it's 51 touchy ppl.
another suggestion made numerous times by diff ppl is to implement something along the lines of a "suggest awes" button to offset sb clicks and help those who in total do more good than harm.
I'd given up engaging in these conversations because the mods are unyielding in their support of the system as it is, guess we all enjoy having the same one over and over.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd like the option to review and rescind any SBs I've made as I reckon a couple have been fucking up clicking the bookmark link next to it and okaying it without thinking. Also a few might have been heat of the moment 'fuck this guy' SBs that would look unnecessary and petty in the cold light of day (I'm pretty sure I SBed someone in haste for zinging the dead balloon kid before we knew he wasn't a dead balloon kid but the son of an arsehole).
I know it comes up in big red writing asking you to be really really sure etc but maybe we should be allowed to regret and retract an SB as much as a poster can regret and retract a dickish zing.
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i think that would be a great feature. i also think that you should have to accrue more sbs for a second banning to counteract grumps who sb banned posters the instant they return.
― estela, Friday, 27 November 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
^no evidence this actually occurs
― electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
geir is unbanned now btw
― electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
cold
― GET THAT BABY JESUS RIGHT UP YE (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Thursday, November 26, 2009 8:09 PM (1 minute ago)
u sure? how do you explain LJ getting a handful within a day or two of coming back?
― we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
my statements were not actually related fwiw
― electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
well his opening salvo on returning was not terribly unlikely to go under the radar tbqh
― electrical audio's sm57 (electricsound), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
sbing someone for starting a self-indulgent, word-y poll is cool fyi but zinging someone for making a self-indulgent, word-y poll - u deserve sb
― ¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨ (Lamp), Friday, 27 November 2009 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes lets start a poll to debate a ban, and then lets start a poll when people dont like the results of the poll to debate the reults of the poll.
This is like the "should ILX be registered only" argt all over again.
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Friday, 27 November 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link
FWIW I think SB should be used very sparingly for acts of real aggression and disrution - thats all I've ever used it for - but in order for us to exercise that voice, we have to bear the brunt of others using it more lightheartedly or scattershot.
― hulk would smash (Trayce), Friday, 27 November 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
erm i was joking abt 'banning' nrq for writing a review, for a magazine that has nothing to do w/ this borad, that i didn't happen to agree w/
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 27 November 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha
― we be emi robin' (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 November 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.msn-names.co.uk/emoticons/wall.gif @ this whole thing
― bear say hi to me (ENBB), Friday, 27 November 2009 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link
guys, you should all just listen to max on that other thread
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Friday, 27 November 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
for those who haven't read the thread gbx is referring to:
HIS DICK, RODNEY!
― max (maxreax), Monday, January 15, 2007 12:23 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― unban everyone tbh (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 27 November 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link