scientology & celebrities

"we are the only ones that know the truth"

to be fair, i think this is only a very small fraction of christianity but a much more slice of the pie for scientologists. But that's a massive assumption from me and only based on heresay and telly progs.

I don't know, I still think Christianity (and Judaism, Islam etc) has a smattering of positive aspects and Scientology CERTAINLY doesn't (except maybe 'LOL famous people').

hey im the son of the god! oops im dead! oh wait im alive again! see ya in heavs, dudes!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/438660591_76e73d0767.jpg

hey im the son of the god! oops im dead! oh wait im alive again! see ya in heavs, dudes!

I'm not saying it's not founded on bullshit. That's not my point at all.

that wasnt directed at you

Oh Ok, apologies.

http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress A rather better link.

If it's intended to indoctrinate why would they want it suppressed?

fear of riff-raff

it'll be interesting to see what scientology looks like in 2000 years

xenu willing

"hey im the son of the god! oops im dead! oh wait im alive again! see ya in heavs, dudes!"

It wasn't my point either.

it wasnt directed at you either. it is kind of fairyland though, right?

Of course, I don't believe a word of it. But if you ignore the crap in the bible and just look at the evolution of christianity as a political and social force, you'll see there's a hell of a lot more complexity and ambiguity there than in Scientology.

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Go to ron the music maker dot org slash music slash listen.htm if you want to hear it all. No, really.

This is the best thing ever! Thanks, Ned!

You're welcome! Trust me, the whole site is amazing.

wow that video.

i saw magnolia on cable recently and it occurs to me that maybe cruise in that movie is the closest we've ever gotten to seeing the real tom. don't die you asshole don't die you asshole

Ned, you're not wrong...

Not only did his heritage of nautical experience place him in the top ranks of professional yachtsmen, but it distinguished him as a world-class master mariner.

I did not know that.

lolz I think the only movie he's ever been in that I like even just a little bit was, uh, Legend. Otherwise - man, he's made a lot of shitty movies. Like Julia Roberts, an amazingly overpaid actor who has no real range or actorly chops, nor ever even been in a particularly great movie.

Not only did his heritage of nautical experience place him in the top ranks of professional yachtsmen, but it distinguished him as a world-class master mariner.

there is a funny story about him trying to steal a boat from Jack Parsons and Parsons putting a curse on him. (a storm arose and forced Hubbard back to port, where he was arrested and the boat confiscated and returned to Parsons)

i have to say mission impossible III was a pleasant surprise

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Holy shit, that's fucking sad.

mi 3 was good

lolz I think the only movie he's ever been in that I like even just a little bit was, uh, Legend. Otherwise - man, he's made a lot of shitty movies. Like Julia Roberts, an amazingly overpaid actor who has no real range or actorly chops, nor ever even been in a particularly great movie.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

range and chops dont really matter when it comes to being a movie star. just matters whether people like watching you onscreen.

I guess I just underestimated America's fascination with short guys and horse-faced women

" it is kind of fairyland though, right?"

Yes, to an extent.Don't want to get into it on this thread though.

On topic-I'm with SMC. What the hell is the fascination with these two people?

I always thought Cruise was a shit actor, never got the appeal. He was OK in "War of the Worlds", seems to supress some of his more annoying tics somewhat, especially the "look at my intense glary eyes" schtick. Still, like Ms A Jolie, I've found it safe to assume that any movie featuring him will blow goats & is to be avoided. I hate his face as well.

http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=458&Itemid=68

^ here is a v v entertaining read. Srsly, well worth a look.

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Holy shit, that's fucking sad.

-- Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:42 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Saddest one for me was Gloria Swanson. Major bummer when I read that.

I like how in the clip Cruise talks about "meeting an SP" as if it would be the greatest, most magical moment in his life

^ here is a v v entertaining read. Srsly, well worth a look.

Is that fan fic? What is that?

It would appear to be an account of mr cruise & mr speilberg's falling out, written in a weird fanficish (as you correctly point out) manner. I laffed (& believed every word of it of course)

if mr cruise is a tr00 kvlt $ceino, and he were to meet an SP, he would have to totally blank him/her y/n?

I wanted it to be true really badly. :/

he would have to totally blank him/her y/n?

would this be like when Hitler blanked a donkey?

I believe the article originally appeared in a gossip column with "mr movie star" and "mr director" in place of the actual names, and someone has C&P-ed the real names in before putting it on that website. Ha haha ha ah ahahah ahahaha aha aha etc. I believe every word of it!

x-post dunno shakey, I just read that Co$ devotees weren't allowed to talk to "suppressive persons" under any circumstances or summat.

I totally believe that story too. Or at least want to believe it. TC seems toolish enough to behave that way.

i don't know why i read all of that. why does dude go out of his way to refer to the "church" under weird nicknames only to call it by it's actual name a few pages later?

i sort of appreciate the bizarre intensity cruise brings to even his stupidest action roles (i like him in those a lot more than when he's being a "real actor" in "good films")...same w/nic cage in his b-movie stuff.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous? i understand there's a lot of 'unlock and purify yr mind' kind of stuff... is that it?

like, if this vid is supposed to be inspirational, wtf it's totally incoherent and threatening, and half the language doesn't make sense unless you're already in the tent.

The Germans have a history of some egregious behavior, to put it mildly, but they are on the right track in looking into this garbage.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous

I assume that its "we'll make you rich/powerful/famous just like our most rich/powerful/famous members!"

matt otm! this is probably total projection, but i love the subliminal little smirk all of his co-actors give him. like "i am acting well, showing a role for the camera, but you my friend, are off in never-never land." val kilmer and tom skerritt in top gun, ken watanabe in last samurai.

i swear it's there.

every movie he's in has a scene where he figures something out and his mannerisms just take over. like that scene where he plays magic tricks on jean reno in MI 1.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182452/

there's a half an hour of this stuff!!

haven't watched any of it...

if u don't want to f with slate, here's pt 1

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YZFH2HZ2

is that Mission Impossible music in the background?

man this shit is wacky but you guys are for all the cruise-movie hate!!

i mean--risky business, legend, top gun, color of money, a few good men, the firm, mission impossible 1, minority report, collateral, war of the worlds, mission impossible 3! the dude has been in all kids of classics

10. L’ENVOI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING performed by L. Ron Hubbard

This is the greatest thing ever:

"Thank you for listening
I write just for you
but others hearing this may find
things they would argue

I do not sing what I believe
I only give them facts
If they believe quite otherwise
it still will have IM-PACT!"

4. THE EVIL PURPOSE performed by Frank Stallone.

omgwtf

all the fake newspaper headlines and statistics in these videos are hilarious