quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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I would like to know how tim harford makes better marriages.

quincie, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't sleep under a flat sheet, tucked or not. makes me go crazy.

who takes longer than 20 seconds to get a duvet into its cover?

turn cover inside out. hands inside, grab far corners, pick up duvet corners through cover, throw without letting go. done.

caek, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't know people in america had duvets

- Do you know what a duvet is?
- A comforter.
- It's a blanket.
Just a blanket. Why do guys
like you and I know what a duvet is?
Is this essential to our survival
in the hunter-gatherer sense?
No.
What are we, then?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Inside-out duvet cover application is the key!! That's how I do.

Also prefer good duvet covers with little ties in the corners, keeps the thingy inside from shifting around.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

if the cover and the duvet are not the same size (i.e. they are both from ikea or neither of them are), then shifting it not a problem ime.

caek, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

getting back to Elizabeth Weil and her marriage reconstruction tale (I read as much as I could take), has she perpetrated any comparable doozies before this?

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG ive been doing japanese tshirt origami magic for the past 5 minutes!!!! <3<3<3

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

my poo is green

super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry guys but why do beds need to be made again?

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

that was my question too
i'm a bad homemaker

harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing has to be made, but if I'm ever in your room and see rumpled sheets and wrinkled pillows I'm not sleeping with you.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

duly noted.

Siberian Klaatu (get bent), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

sometimes i make my bed if people are coming over but not if they are already my friends

harbl, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I made my bed in a hotel room once when I was living there for a month because I felt bad for making the maid do it every day

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i NEVER make my bed because who gives a fuck

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I made my bed in a hotel room once when I was living there for a month because I felt bad for making the maid do it every day

No, they want you to leave the bed unmade, because they want to know if you've used it so that they know when to change the sheets.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes indeed -- a maid told me once. She said she actually got annoyed when she saw unmade beds!

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I change my sheets at home like every half a year so hey

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

and I assume you meant 'made beds' there alfred

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

gives me an idea for a tv show: 'made beds: the untold stories of hospitality workers in the mafia"

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

gives me an idea for a tv show: 'made beds: the untold stories of hospitality workers in the mafia"

http://www.frapstr.com/wp-content/gallery/sliders/robert_stack.jpg

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck folding a sheet

Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

the article is fine, but oh the lede...

For those of us who live here, the expense of New York City is something we’ve long since adjusted to. Designer tank tops for $140, truffled hamburgers for $150, studio apartments renting for upward of $3,000 — even in the midst of recession, these things seem somehow normal, the price of admission to the greatest city in the world.

http://frugaltraveler.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/going-deep-for-the-cheap-in-new-york/

I DIED, Saturday, 12 December 2009 07:51 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Men Happy to Be Free from Home Ownership

AS a business consultant for start-up ventures, Kirt Greenburg, 41, roams widely from his base in Atlanta. But the frustrations with his 3,300-square-foot colonial revival house, where he lives alone, follow him everywhere.

his 3,300-square-foot home, where he lives alone

EMPHASIS MINE FUCKING A

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

lulzy headline alert: Young Pianist Thrust Into Elite Group

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 7 January 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

omg that NYT article makes me want to kill on so many levels - the "woe is all these rich people" whiny privileged lament; the pointless gendering of a phenomenon in a headline when the rest of the article repeatedly states that women have homebuyer's remorse, too; the trite gender stereotypes; the fact that when poor people do something stupid like buy something without thinking it through and end up in a bad place, they don't get to be studied and soft profiled in the NYT but instead just get a lot of high-handed "Well they should have known! Where is the personal responsibility??? Are there no prisons??? Are the union workhouses still in operation???" bullshit.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

“I’m in my 30s. If fixing something made me happy, I would have learned how to do it.”

hey ladies, he's single!

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

oh wait, no he's not.

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i didn't make it further than the first paragraph or so of the homeowner article but the playwright's lament about couch moving is on some cheap seats fight club stuff

dome plow (gbx), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - yeah you guys said what i was going to say! it's full of lolz!

Alan Berks the renter had spent his evenings with friends at African dance nights and jazz clubs. Alan Berks the homeowner lost an entire day rearranging the living room furniture. “I did find a spot for the couch that made me happy,” he said. “I was proud of myself. But where the couch is — that’s how I’m going to measure my happiness from now on? I remember thinking: ‘This is how people live? Why am I doing this?’

and:

And routine maintenance distracted him from writing. “Why would I have any interest in fixing the bathroom sink?” he said. “I’m in my 30s. If fixing something made me happy, I would have learned how to do it.”

hahaha this guy.

Maria, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, if someone is so lacking in self awareness that it never occurred to him that being within walking distance of restaurants and bars and shops and people and coffee and art and fun is a quality of life perk that he might miss if he moved out to the suburbs and away from all of his friends, then that person can sit in his 1300 square foot house with its unused pool and fucking rot for all I care.

The only perk of that article is that it validates our decision as white yuppies to be Renterz-4-Lyf.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

as a renter i can say that i have also moved a couch around a couple of times, it's not just for rich homeowners

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/01/07/garden/07menspan-1/articleLarge.jpg

this is some real michael corleone alone in tahoe shit : /

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i spent like 3 days fretting over couch placement this fall but i think i might have ocd, so

dome plow (gbx), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

routine maintenance distracted him from writing

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

THAT GUY LIVES IN A 3300-SQ-FT HOUSE ALONE and he's complaining that it feels EMPTY.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Or like, if it never crossed any of these clowns' minds that if they bought a house, they would be responsible for fixing and maintaining the property? Who the fuck did this guy think would fix a broken sink? Elves? I am not sympathetic in the least.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/01/07/garden/07men-2/popup.jpg

this house looks like shit, maybe because this guy generally kinda sucks

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know, i think this bit is sort of sad:

His real estate agent described the home as an ideal spot for parties and sit-down dinners. But most of his friends live in condos and apartments across town, where they eat takeout and drop into restaurants, he said.

sounds like his friends don't want to come over, most people are excited to be invited to someone's house for a meal. or maybe they don't invite him along because he's so far away. moving into a distant, big, empty house as a single person seems very lacking in self-awareness to me too but it's kind of poignantly misguided.

man, i still do not have the urge to live alone. have never done it for more than a few months subletting and don't see the appeal.

Maria, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

a lot of these people seem to have gone into the house-acquisition process without doing any research whatsoever on the house in question/

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

emo homeowner can eat my fuc

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

"this isn't exactly the kind of party i imagined"
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/01/07/garden/07men-2/popup.jpg

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"how come no one wants to drive to the suburbs and swim in my pool"
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/01/07/garden/07men-2/popup.jpg

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Or maybe he's a jerk and his friends are all glad that he moved way the hell across town. I bet they'd come over if he fixed the pool.

And I mean, come on. If you can't afford $500 to repair your pool filter, you are not rich enough to buy a house with a damn pool. Use the pool at the Y or swim in municipal fountains like the rest of us.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly, i think there's something about finding the correct living space that people don't take into account. like i think a lot of people consider size and location and don't consider the psychological pleasantness of the house or apartment in question, and they end up in a place that makes them miserable and they're not sure why. the last couple of times i've moved, i've been really aware of that. little things like the particular street something is on or the size of windows or whether it's carpeted or is hardwood make a big difference. i bet these folks went for size over quality.

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i bet these folks went for size over quality.

^^The truth bomb of mainstream American life?

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i imagine that everyone has little regrets about the place they buy, but most of us have the decency to keep this to ourselves rather than letting someone from the nyt interview us about it/photograph our shame

figgy pudding (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Definitely. I think they unthinkingly bought into the idea that Success = moving into a big house in the 'burbs by a certain age. For some people, 'burb life is all that and all you can eat salad and breadsticks at the Olive Garden. For other people, it is like being sent into exile and cut off from everything you love. But all it takes to avoid that trap is to employ the tiniest bit of critical thinking and self-reflection, and if someone makes enough money to purchase the houses described in this article, that person should be at least capable of that. Thus I remain obstinately unsympathetic.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

yes

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I am far more sympathetic to people who purchase condos/houses that turn out to have lots of problems that didn't turn up in an inspection, or people who thought they were getting a good deal on a condo only to have the developers skip town and leave them with toilets that flush directly into the dirt crawlspace. It's this "How did I know I would be unhappy in a giant empty house for away from all of my friends????" lament that makes me bananas.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link


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