die hard v. hard boiled

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thurman merman (cozwn), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds plays one in Extreme Prejudice.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

HOLD ON TO YOUR BUTTS

deej--nuts, butthurt, and yelly (gbx), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

* Smart Brother from Undercover Brother.
* In the first Die Hard film, the computer hacker is black, wears glasses, and doesn't have any combat skills. He spends most of his time making basketball references, as if to prove that he's black.
* Anthony Anderson as Glen Whitman in the 2007 ''Transformers movie.
* Ving Rhames in the Mission Impossible movies. Like other iffy examples of the trope, he's not really a nerd at all. In fact, he's arguably a Scary Black Man who happens to be a super-hacker as well. Most likely his race is a reference to Barney Collier in the original TV show, who really is a nerd.
* Brian in The Day After Tomorrow puts a lampshade on it: "Sir, I am president of the electronics club, the math club, and the chess club. Now, if there is a bigger nerd in here, please point him out."
* Wybie from Coraline though his entire racial background is only mentioned in a deleted scene. Your mileage may vary, however, as to how nerdy he really is, as opposed to simply awkward and lonely.
* Dean Cain, the villain of How High. A subversion of sorts, since he's repressing an inner Soul Brotha, which is unleashed by THC.
* Sonar man Jonesey in The Hunt For Red October.
* Dee Jay from the god awful live action Street Fighter movie.
* Miles Dyson in Terminator 2: Judgment Day, is a genius black man in a nerdy field, though he displays no nerdy qualities.
* Ray Arnold, played by Samuel L Jackson, in Jurassic Park is the park's chief engineer, a nerdy field, though he displays no nerdy characteristics. Contrasting him is Wayne Knight's character Dennis Nerdy Nedry, who is a standard, fat, white computer nerd.

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

above c+p'd from here

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I get all the die hards and lethal weapons confused
but Hard Boiled is the shit's tits. gotta go for my boi on this one

born loser (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

love both. vote for woo.

moullet, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post I'm 35, man. Close enough?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

courtney b. vance didn't play a hacker in the hunt for red october, but he did play an expert sonar operator.

pantalols (omar little), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^not a token character fwiw

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

True. And "Star Trek" has always been multi-culturally minded. Just wanted to post that pic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

THANK YOU SYSTEM.

j/k and the fa™an (s1ocki), Thursday, 24 December 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

love both of these a whole lot but am voting die hard because it's a christmas movie and tis the season or whatever

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Thursday, 24 December 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

also when they show it on tbs - the broadcast via which i will surely watch it in the next few days - mcclain says 'yippy kay yay my friend' which is just awesome

did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Thursday, 24 December 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 25 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

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Tannenbaum Schmidt, Friday, 25 December 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Just watched Die Hard as Xmas eve entertainments

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Friday, 25 December 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I was surprised to see so many people repping for reginald valjohnson, all those "all the boys down here are rooting for you" and "you got kids" lines were...ugh. and the ending with reginald shooting the bad guy after the whole "I shot a kid" bit!

his whole character arc is learning to shoot people again!!

reagan & sarah (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 December 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's still lame tho

=皿= (dyao), Saturday, 26 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i wasnt saying that in its favour really

reagan & sarah (s1ocki), Saturday, 26 December 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Yippies, Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers, and CIA = Yippie Kai-Ai Motherfuckers

antexit, Saturday, 26 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

oh great, bbc3 is showing 'e hard with a vengea'

possibly not in the proper aspect ratio.

the shart of noise (history mayne), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you racist bastards

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 December 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

who sharted?! (s1ocki), Thursday, 31 December 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

die shart

♖♘♗♔♕♗♘♖ (am0n), Thursday, 31 December 2009 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

i can't believe this

, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7HxQAy3.jpg

, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

Kinda surprised by Louis's woo enthusiasm

a mom shaped pom (wins), Friday, 27 May 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of which, I initially took this thread to be pitting die hard against hard target

a mom shaped pom (wins), Friday, 27 May 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Hard Boiled no contest. I hate Bruce Willis

― mr. strawman spotter (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 3:30 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rip van wanko, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

a better tomorrow 2 vs a good day to die hard vs tomorrow never dies

adam, Friday, 27 May 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

i totally forgot that anthony wong played the bad guy

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, Saturday, 28 May 2016 02:31 (seven years ago) link

when does he not?

like $500 billion in stuffed fart sales and I have an idea (contenderizer), Saturday, 28 May 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of which, I initially took this thread to be pitting die hard against hard target

― a mom shaped pom (wins), Friday, May 27, 2016 6:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if the fabled director's cut of Hard Target was available then i'd have no problem pitting it against these two

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 May 2016 10:13 (seven years ago) link

so beautiful

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 May 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link

rly want to see HB at the cinema - thread revival got me to chase the trailer on YT

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 29 May 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

i totally forgot that anthony wong played the bad guy

― 龜, Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:31 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when does he not?

― like $500 billion in stuffed fart sales and I have an idea (contenderizer), Saturday, May 28, 2016 3:53 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Infernal Affairs, Beast Cops, The Mission, Exiled, Vengeance, Full Contact (sort of not a bad guy), etc...

i voted for Die Hard, still might, but i love Hard Boiled. i saw every other Woo classic before i saw this one, but one day my video store got a subtitled copy of this one in and I rented it and i wanted to pass out from delight after i watched it. i don't know how much i paid to find a copy of it on tape, but it was worth it.

just the way Woo will film a pretty simple moment like a guy on a dock taking a shot at Tequila, missing, and hitting a post while the latter dives out of the way. or Tony Leung diving through a half-built car while it blows up around him, hit by a shotgun. it's beautiful.

nomar, Sunday, 17 September 2017 05:26 (six years ago) link

saw the mission for the first time recently ,what an awesome movie

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 17 September 2017 23:14 (six years ago) link

If you are in the mood for a John Woo B-movie, check out that Blackjack 'tv pilot film' from 1998 that is on Amazon. That thing is a doozy. It stars Dolph Lundgren and Kate Vernon (aka Mrs. Tigh from Battlestar Galactica) as Dolph's psychologist/lover along with Fred Williamson showing up in a smaller role. It's pretty wacky and kinda like Xena or Hercules in quality, but the action scenes do have some Woo style gun action.

earlnash, Monday, 18 September 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

I feel like Neil S. never got proper credit for this:

Too hard.

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link


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