Young Marble Giants : Colossal Youths or Little Duds

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What is the purpose of this album after all this time?

The purpose of this album is to be one of maybe five or so albums in existence that you can play no matter what mood you are in because it's THAT GOOD.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Was emailing with Vic Varney of the soon to be reissued Method Actors about their influences and peers an he surprised me by mentioning Young Marble Giants. He said something about their atmosphere and minimalism being an influence/really popular in Athens in the early 80s.

dan selzer, Thursday, 31 December 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link

after 1000 plays is it still rewarding?

Absolutely!

...because it's THAT GOOD.

ABSOLUTELY!!!

Athens in the early 80s.

I think if Oh-OK had managed to expand/refine what they were doing on their first mini-EP, they might have made an album like Colossal Youth. (Although I love Oh-OK's Furthermore What a ton too, it's a more typical jangle-pop sound.)

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 31 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

in theory this album should be one of my favorites, but i find it just a shade dull.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

REM has listed Young Marble Giants as an inspiration.

And yeah, Oh-OK channel that spirit nicely.

mike a, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, this is stone cold classic top 10 or so of all time material (for me).

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 1 January 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

How did I not hear about Weekend until just now?

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 21 January 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

It took me years as well, don't feel bad... I had a 7" single that I think was non-representative, it put me off of them. The longer demo tracks on the La Variete CD are just amazing.

sleeve, Friday, 21 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Nostalgia" was the track that drew me in.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 21 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i was playing them on ilxor lisnin room yesterday

idk, still prefer ymg by a distance

flopson fauxhawk (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

The record I mean, not my attempts to write about it!

yugi ex, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

They're playing at atp in a month or so, i'm pretty excited, have they been playing lately ? i wonder what kind of condition they are in...

cw, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.collapseboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Young-Marble-Giants-590x468.jpg
healthy?

tylerw, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

This record is all times top ten afaiac

Balticskillz (admrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Nature intended the abstract for you and me

>>>

paolo, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 09:17 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Listened to Colossal Youth for the first time in a long time and realized how much I like the guitar playing. Never knew Moxham played a Rickenbacker.

timellison, Monday, 13 July 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

amazing

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

bump for the greatness of that video

Van Horn Street, Monday, 11 July 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

The long stony faces of the men, the slightly bewildered girl, everyone uncomfortable in their own skin. The muddled black and white, and the odd tempo to the whole proceedings. That video feels a piece to Stranger than Paradise.

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

I had not seen that video, thanks for the bump! What a wonderful band.

this is a salad for the BALSAMIC REVIVAL (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Another bump for that video!

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Why didn't anyone tell me? New (2018) album from Alison Statton & Spike, "Bimini Twist": https://alisonstattonspike.bandcamp.com/album/bimini-twist

ernestp, Sunday, 6 January 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link

Sounds good! Statton's voice barely ages.

Re the original question: Very classic. Some hurtful comments about Weekend up-thread though. Some days I think I prefer the Weekend album to the YMG one.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 6 January 2019 03:28 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

I just read a comment by some peasant describing this band as lounge music. The fucking nerve! I firmly believe this is one of the punk-est albums of all time. It might sound “too clean” for what you’d normally expect for a punk album to sound like but that is a very non-punk mentality in itself.

Isn’t the punk rock attitude to destroy established perceptions of what things should be and sound like? To say “fuck you” to the excessive sound of stadium rock? Its undiscriminated use of solos, ridiculous costumes and massive banks of equipment in elaborate stages?
You certainly can’t accuse YMG of maximalism. The sound they created is so unique it might have arrived from an alternative reality.

Honestly, it’s hard to trace a time or a place for it. There’s nothing quite like it and the fact this album came from 1980 always blows my mind.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link

Beach Party by the Marine Girls is kinda like it

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link

The only reason I can think of for that is maybe the sound of the organ. I hardly think their songs, the drum machine stuff, or the guitar and bass sound like lounge music.

timellison, Thursday, 29 August 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

A good cover by another of my favorite bands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_f2kMgUxp8

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

wow, Sugar Plant have a album on Spotify from 2018!!! I thought they broke up years ago.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Whoa, what?!?

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 August 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

yep, called Headlights... they cover Ben Watt's North Marine Drive on it!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 August 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

I would never call YMG "lounge," but some songs do conjure up moods not far removed from "Girl from Ipanema" or "Summer Samba" for me. And the drum machine, while not lounge, is a sound from the past, like my aunt playing her Lowrey organ at Christmastime when I was a kid.

I love this record so much, but it's one of a handful I consciously don't pull out often, because I don't want to overplay it and wear out its magic.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 August 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Lounge music my arse

paolo, Friday, 30 August 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

Superficially, Colossal Youth reminds me most of There's a Riot Going On and VU's s/t. It feels like everyone, musician and listener, is shut up together in a medium-sized cabinet.

McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 August 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

Just looked over a review I wrote for the reissues 12 years ago - had forgotten that I pondered the squareness, though I don't think I'd have reached for "lounge" as a descriptor. I didn't see that squareness as a drawback:

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/3835

...now that the thing has been beloved to me for more than a decade, it's hard to recover those first impressions.

bendy, Friday, 30 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

There's some beachy vibes to the follow-up group The Weekend, who are excellent. But seedy, schmaltzy "lounge"? No.

That said, I'm going to share my favorite Weekend track just because there's never a bad time: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E9WCCHHoepw

Soundslike, Friday, 30 August 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

Nice piece, Bendy, thanks for sharing.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 August 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

Thanks DP

bendy, Saturday, 31 August 2019 04:44 (four years ago) link

Have you’ve heard about this band called Furniture?

https://youtu.be/3pkisXg5jCc

Furniture is in no way related to YMG, but heard this song just now for the very first time and loved it. Apparently it’s from 1983 and the first artist that came to mind is YMG, also gives some vibes of Echo & the Bunnymen.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 12 September 2019 05:20 (four years ago) link

I honestly can’t tell if that’s a drum machine or a real drummer... or a mix of both. But drum machine + sustained organ lines are also the basis sound of YMG

It’s only missing the distinctive YMG bass sound and Alison’s voice, of course, but we get a cool clarinet sound and some Echo & the Bunnymen vocal instead.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 12 September 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link

furniture had a big(ish) uk hit a few years later with this, which is a bit smoother. (and this is yet another band that reminds me of Japan)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx37AWqSPU0

koogs, Thursday, 12 September 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link

some Wild Swans in there too

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 September 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

Never saw this thread before---reminds me that I long ago came across a few post-Giants tracks with voice and songs of Alison Stratton, very intriguing, and now I want to look for more. Meanwhile, this archived Voice reviewette of the worthy Domino collection still details and sums up their appeal (to me, anyway):
https://myvil.blogspot.com/2016/06/young-marble-giants-colossal-youth-and.html

dow, Friday, 13 September 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

you're talking about the band Weekend, I assume?

sleeve, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

Have you’ve heard about this band called Furniture?

Never, and that first track is wonderful, thanks!

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Friday, 13 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Weekend is food but that weekend demos release from a few years ago is great.

dan selzer, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

xpost sleeve, I heard Stratton in a duo, blanking on the other name, something unexpectedly turned up on the old Rhapsody streaming service, while I was checking out a computer at Best Buy, 10 years ago maybe.

dow, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Dan, food is good, I like food!

dow, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link


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