Pulp - Party Hard vs. Andrew WK

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I am going to write a song called Party Soft just for you, Ned!

Jim ist rad.

As for this live show description -- fucking fuck. Refer to my just- posted thread about stagedivers, wherein I point out I was just at a Melvins show. If I want destructive, crazed riffs, I'll take them from the source, dammit! And the Melvins are ten times intentionally funnier than Andrew WK will ever be in his entire miserable shit-for- brains life! So I sez, at least.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And having vented a bit and thought about it, I realized the real reason I hate WK and his ridiculous song -- like that other allegedly perfect pop moment "Baby One More Time," I can't remember a damn thing about it! If you can't create a song that sticks in the memory, then perfect pop by my standards it ain't.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The WK song is better.

Ned why do you spend so much of your time fulminating about songs you can't even remember?

― Tom, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Also the Melvins' production isn't as slick, let's face it.

― Tom, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

pulp

― anthony, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned why do you spend so much of your time fulminating about songs you can't even remember?

I was thinking about this, actually -- whereas, say, I'm not fond of the Blu Cantrell song at all and have only heard it two times if that, I still have the core hook in my head. In respects the song has done what its creators set out to do. If I hear a song, have a negative reaction to it and then can't even remember it beyond that, then cripes.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I mean if I can't remember a song I generally just think, eh. Or if I hear something and really dislike it then I can usually remember why I dislike it rather than it just being unmemorable.

― Tom, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

thank you, ned. as always you are the voice of reason. words connot describe the raw contempt i have for the man. his music is shit. i wish i could forget i ever heard it - but it's like a cappy metal band covering kim mitchels' "i am a wild party"; poorly. i saw him on much music - and he's such a tool, he ate dog food (which is too good for him) and then started thrashing around like an idiot. he's obviously trying way too hard personify this crazy image his record label cooked up. when rick the temp (a talking head on much music) looks at you with a "what a fuckin looser" look on his face, you know you've got problems. he drives me to these uncontrolable fits of ranting striken with grammar and spelling errors.

what i mean to say is, pulp all the way.

― dyson, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Andrew WK is the first album I've actually bought since Turbonegro broke up.

― Kris, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it wrong to want midgets to repeatedly kick Andrew WK in the nuts?

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I mean if I can't remember a song I generally just think, eh. Or if I hear something and really dislike it then I can usually remember why I dislike it rather than it just being unmemorable.

Which makes total sense. I think I'm more coming from the point of view that if you're going to make catchy pop, THEN MAKE CATCHY POP, ie live up to the stated goal regardless of the exact methods used. Sins and/or annoyances which would be forgiven by this ability are magnified by its lack, and thus my hate grows -- the promise falls short of the reality. I don't hate Brit/Max in quite the same way for BOMT, likely because they have other examples that work. Right now Mr. WK doesn't have that.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it wrong to want midgets to repeatedly kick Andrew WK in the nuts?

Not if the shoes are steel-tipped.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I agree with Ned about the easy-to-forget song. I remember the outfit, the hairstyle, the music video, the album cover, the controversy over the album cover, and the interview with Gideon Yago but I can't remember the song for the life of me. That's not a good thing for the song but I guess it is for my sanity.

― Lindsey B, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago Gideon Yago !!!

― chaki, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I heart both! Pulp cos I'm a Bowie casualty, and Andrew WK because it's the stoopidest pop rekkid since Primal Scream's "Rocks" -- so ridiculous that it makes me laugh like crazy, yet is extremely catchy.

― Nicole, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually, I haven't weighed in on Pulp's track...and I actually think it's a disappointment. The Walker/Bowie croon is great, I freely admit, but I really don't like the guitars at all, they make the song sound just a touch too corp rock slick. Maybe that's the point, though. Hm.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And clearly there's a great schism at work here -- what defines catchy? Some think the WK track is a stick-in-your-brain experience, others do not -- separate this out from whether one actually *likes* the track or not and there's a real mystery for you. Is it taste, is it what surrounds the song as a package, is it something else? Damned if I know the answer.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Dan surely can only mean "bite"

― Graham, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yum yum.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Rush rush rush to Gideon Yago?

― Ally, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hey It's Great PR for Us! Thanx WK! Keep singing our praises! Party Hard or is that Hard Party Dudes!

Dan E Lee

Hard Party Since 1998

― Dan E Lee, Sunday, 28 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think it's catchy. It's not by choice, either. I can't really remember any of the lyrics, or even what the singing sounds like, but that guitar hook.. neeer neeeer neeer, neeer neeeeeeeer neeer.. neer neer neer! It won't leave my head.

It sticks in my brain. It sounds like music to a children's game show on Nickelodeon..

Also, you're lucky you can't hear me actually imitate the guitar sounds.

― Bobby D. Gray, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can't deny that WK has learned Bizkit's trick of avoiding being forgotten easily via deflecting faint praise.

― Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Well, that wooshing sound you (didn't) hear was Andrew WK's career careening to a quick end. When it takes Michael Jackson dollars and hype to produce Boards of Canada (or MJ these days!) sales you are not long for the biz-ness. Like the last Daft Punk cd (only much more so), Andrew WK is a better concept than result. Arch heavy metal? How many people lost their jobs over this? As for the merit of the songs, the Pulp song does more for my head *and* hips. Not that anyone asked...

― Brent, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

i love andrew wk

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 16 May 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

GYGAX! LISTEN TO THIS!!!

― Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Thursday, 20 May 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

It took 12.5 years but I am finally ready to admit that WK >>>> Pulp on this one.

― Simon H., Friday, 19 December 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

nope

― fgti jaq, it's chinavision! (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link

yep

― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 19 December 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link

read the I Get Wet 33⅓ in one go on the beach recently, was fun

― Gland Of Horses (sic), Friday, 19 December 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link

Pulp, without a doubt. Andrew WK is just fucking nonsense.

― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 20 December 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link

andrew wk is garbage

― hunangarage, Saturday, 20 December 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link

WK track feels perfect right now. thinking about the fact that it is 13 years old is seriously messing with my head. I Get Wet holds up.

― fffv, Saturday, 20 December 2014 05:05 (nine years ago) link

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