Sisters of Mercy - Classic or Dud

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Classic. Like many bands, even if you were to HATE them, they would still need to be deemed classics. But I like them, so, I'm biased.

J.H. Malerman (xada_hgla), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

plus the A&R person having to be dressed as a
clown during all and any meetings with the band
.

I love it!

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Hey now now...

Reissue one:

1. Black Planet
2. Walk Away
3. No Time To Cry
4. A Rock And A Hard Place
5. Marian (Version)
6. First And Last And Always
7. Possession
8. Nine While Nine
9. Amphetamine Logic
10. Some Kind Of Stranger

Bonus Tracks
11. Poison Door
12. On The Wire
13. Blood Money
14. Bury Me Deep
15. Long Train
16. Some Kind Of Stranger (Early)

Number two

1. Dominion/Mother Russia
2. Flood I
3. Lucretia My Reflection
4. 1959
5. This Corrosion
6. Flood II
7. Driven Like The Snow
8. Never Land (A Fragment)

Bonus Tracks
9. Torch
10. Colours
11. Never Land [Full Length] [Previously Unreleased Outtake]
12. Emma

And last

1. Vision Thing
2. Ribbons
3. Detonation Boulevard
4. Something Fast
5. When You Don't See Me
6. Doctor Jeep
7. More
8. I Was Wrong

Bonus Tracks
9. You Could Be The One
10. More [Extended Version]
11. Doctor Jeep [Extended Version]
12. Ribbons [Live]
13. Something Fast [Live]

The last, I think, I can live without.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously. BUT WHAT THE FUCK I NEED THE OTHER TWO

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 20 October 2006 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's hope F&L&A sounds a little better this time. Wooo, Poison Door and Bury Me Deep on an official CD, finally!

What label is doing these, by the way?

StanM (StanM), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh. I was all ready to bound into thread and declare how I dont care for the Sisters, only to see I already did! =)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe they're with Universal sublabel W14 now:

http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=17959_0_2_0_C

StanM (StanM), Friday, 20 October 2006 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah - just checked their website to see if they finally had some news to announce, but no, still that "glorious summer"...

Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 October 2006 07:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Figures.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey DAN, did you go to the vision thing tour w/me? I can't remember...

YES I DID. Awesome awesome show.

F&L&A appears to be essential.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, definitely. Floodland I'd only need for "Emma" on CD at last.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I could do with the extended Neverland that I've only had on bootlegs

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a nice bonus I guess. Sometimes fragments work better as fragments!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Wooo, Poison Door and Bury Me Deep on an official CD, finally!

these two and the other 12" b-sides are the only reasons to get these post-shark-jumping discs...every year I get a little more pissed off at how this band went from rule to suck in such a short period of time

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

More stuff I've already got in various formats that I'll be dumb enough to buy anyway. Ho hum.

ONIMO's lips can't feel! (GerryNemo), Friday, 20 October 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

WEA International, 3 November in Europe.

http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=18248_0_2_0_C

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm a sucker for reissues of albums I don't have any more, so I'll get these.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread made me put on 'Floodland' this week-end and I was amazed how great the CD sounded (in an audio way). Not sure what a remaster would add to it.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

£££s

ONIMO has fallen into changing screen name HELL (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, a person can say what they like about the Sisters, but I'd like to understand why "Temple Of Love" sounds twice as worse now than it did at the time. That song was so incredibly cool when I first heard it and now...oh my god. It smells.

Dugga Dugga Dugga (Bimble...), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"lucretia my reflection" is one of my dream karaoke songs

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"Temple of Love" is fucking fierce. (The original, not the '92 mix.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, a person can say what they like about the Sisters, but I'd like to understand why "Temple Of Love" sounds twice as worse now than it did at the time. That song was so incredibly cool when I first heard it and now...oh my god. It smells.

You've gone deaf.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone has an opinion on James Ray? I've only heard bits and pieces but it sounds very Gift-ish.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 07:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Emma is a Hot Chocolate cover, yeah, or have I been on the crack again? I can't imagine HC doing it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes it is

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man.....another batch of freakin' re-issues I'm gonna have to buy. Fuck!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I found First And Last And Always and Floodland in the shop here in Belgium today. (They didn't have Vision Thing)

Very nicely reissued, cardboard foldy things with booklets, two nice articles by Michael Bonner (Uncut Magazine) - there's some stuff in there I didn't know (and I've been quite a sisters freak way back when, so I'm impressed), lyrics to Floodland, not to F&L&A.

How do they sound?
Well, F&L&A is the vinyl mix that was on the original LP, nice & clear mix, and Floodland, well, I don't know, Baaderonix was right, there isn't much they can do with this. It sounds a little louder in places, perhaps (the choir intro to This Corrosion?), but it's not very clear what happened.

Listen for yourself:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1842737/blackplanet_dominion_comparisons.zip.html

This is a zip file with 4 256kbps (LAME CBR) mp3 files. They are:
blackplanet_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1988 CD edition
blackplanet_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissue
dominion_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1987 CD edition
dominion_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissue

Ripped with EAC, no normalization or anything else.

Oh, the bonus tracks rule. I always forget how much I like the full Never Land because it's on a shitty old tape somewhere and I hardly listen to tapes anymore.

(it's for educational purposes and it's only the first minute - if this is still illegal, please delete & accept my apologies)

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the full Neverland instrumental or does it have the lyrics?

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It has lyrics (and they're in the booklet). Full length = 11:59

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice...

I think Neverland is my fave SoM tune, despite its throwaway-ness. The image of Eldritch with his ticket to Syria, getting ready for a life on the run, is so vivid...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

BLOOD MONEY BITCHES

what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Who, me? Alright then.

20 seconds of Blood Money and 40 seconds of Emma (sounds amazing)

http://rapidshare.com/files/1855615/em_bm.zip.html

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

there's this apocryphal story a bigger sisterhead than i once told me about AE only owning one record at some point in the 80s, while owning no record player. that record? "careless whisper." i guess he kept it on his mantle or something? which, to paraphrase, AE justified as follows: "when it's that good, you just gotta buy it."

also, whichever "flood"--1 or 2, can't remember--precedes "lucretia" on floodland doesn't get nearly enough love. sets "lucretia" up as well as "shooby-do" sets up "candy-o" ... as i make this association i suddenly apprehend that it's far from coincidental.

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Both Floods are fucking awesome. The hooks in Flood II never stop coming.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

also I like how the 1-minute FALAA clip sounds like they just vacuum-sucked the low mids out of everything.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The hooks in Flood II never stop coming.

Haha, yes. There's just this endless series of killer bridges...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Just listened to the remasters with headphones. FALAA just works a lot better in this mix, that's what everyone already said as soon as the overblown '92 edition was released and it's still true. Floodland also sounds better, can't explain how, it just does, everything's clearer somehow.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

On my way back from my morning stroll today, I picked up FALAA. Not sure if I'll get Floodland,but I'm tempted by Vision Thing. They didn't have it at the store though

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also I like how the 1-minute FALAA clip sounds like they just vacuum-sucked the low mids out of everything.

The whole remixed album is *interesting*.. Absolutely no mids - was it supposed to sound that way originally?? The "Black Planet" intro sounds as if coming out of a cheap car radio...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That's how the LP sounded, yeah... Btw, I listened to the (old) Vision Thing cd again today, for the first time in probably ten years, and man I now hate that Robert Palmer/ZZ Top sound. Ribbons is ok, Something Fast and I Was Wrong I can tolerate, but the rest...

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ribbons is great and the title track, "When You Don't see Me", "I Was Wrong" and, hell, maybe even "More" are pretty awesome too.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Sunday, 5 November 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

'More' is totally awesome. Totally.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"...that YOU CAN GETTTT!"

I always thought that was a wonderfully bitter and spiteful way to end it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"More" is grbt but to be A BIT CONTROVERIAL I think Eldritch would have done better to record his stuff without Meat Loaf Dude ever getting involved (except maybe "Dominion")

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

controversial, natch

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I got me the Vision Thing reissue yesterday (haven't had the chance to listen to it, I don't expect a big sonic difference). It was just as cheap as the other two (about €11.50), but er... the spine says VISIOIN THING :-(

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh boy. The FALAA spine says FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

DOMINION

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Absolute, undeniable classic.

Jeff Treppel, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link


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