Wish POLLfillment: Sonic Youth's Dirty

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Hah, Pump Up the Volume for me too! I can totally remember that moment (i.e. listening to that CD for the first time and going "What is that?")

Like many songs on Dirty, Sugar Kane, as corny as parts of it are (just lyircs for me), the fucking instrumental passage in the middle of the song is just so so good, especially when it breaks down after the initial rock-out solo and then builds up again. I am so glad there is a lot of love for Purr here too, I used to put that song on mixtapes mainly cause of how righteous the guitar playing is throughout (and cause I always considered it completely overlooked ...)

grandavis, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

first exposure to SY was either:

1) coming across their name in random Nirvana/Pumpkins/Breeders articles
or
2) checking out their albums on some Columbia House booklet

I'm pretty sure that whatever it was, it was def. #2, and esp. falling in love with song titles like Kool thing, Cinderella's Big Score, and Titanium Expose that made me decide to check them out. A grunge outcast in my class lent me his cassette copy of goo; v. different than what I expected--I thought all alternative rock sounded like Soundgarden, STP, and Silverchair (or at least like the Pumpkins and Breeders) but this seemed not exactly quieter, but much more atmospheric, much less upfront with its rewards...I liked Mote, Mildred Pierce, Tunic, and Disappearer (still my Sonic Youth POO) and those still tend to be my favorite songs from that album...

Dirty was creeper rock; it wasn't until a couple of years ago listening to some of the songs that I realized how much I had missed that album, how many of those songs had stuck with me...not every album from that time has that effect...my top 2 albums from when I was fifteen, The Bends and Gish, I can't even hear those anymore...Dirty brings it though.

don't mind me: just exhuming dead horses... (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I think you're thinking of Goo, not Dirty?

dirty their first post-nevermind lp, so the entry point for a lot of kids of my generation, rather than goo.

voted wish fulfillment, but could as easily have been theresa or drunken butterfly

ALIAS: Pete Townshend (stevie), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I think for Brits at least Dirty was the album that really got notice here. I was 15 then so I dunno how much attention they got with Goo but the first SY song I ever heard was 100% on something like 120 Minutes or Alternative Nation

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I shd probly listen again (for the first time in like 15 years), Sugar Kane I think.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

"Drunken Butterfly" all the way, a 1990s Sonic Youth song that even xhuxk eddy could love.

Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 30 January 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

always liked chapel hill a lot

johnny crunch, Saturday, 30 January 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

The beautifully recorded Drunken Butterfly. Actually, evertyhing on the album except for Sugar Kane is good to great.

Now, Saturday, 30 January 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

so divisive!

Trip Maker, Saturday, 30 January 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"shoot"

my favorite 'kim song' of the 90's

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 30 January 2010 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"Swimsuit Issue" as much for the brazenly naive/stoopid lyrics as the rolling pummel of the first half and the gallumphing robot crunch of the second half.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 30 January 2010 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

bad moon rising, evol, daydream, sonic nurse. i like pretty much all their stuff, but dirty and jet set just always bored me

― ♖♕♖ (am0n), Friday, January 29, 2010 12:34 PM (8 hours ago)

troo

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 30 January 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't remember liking Kim's tracks that much at the time this came out, but they really stand out for me now, especially "Shoot", which gets my vote

Dan S, Saturday, 30 January 2010 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Swimsuit Issue" as much for the brazenly naive/stoopid lyrics as the rolling pummel of the first half and the gallumphing robot crunch of the second half.

yeah I think Kim does really good with the lyrics in this album, the way in 'SI' the way they set up the dopey lyrics in the first half only for it to culminate in a single line of stark poetry: 'ice women'.

don't mind me: just exhuming dead horses... (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 30 January 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

'JC' reminds me of Madvillain, really.

don't mind me: just exhuming dead horses... (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 30 January 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I think Kim does really good with the lyrics in this album, the way in 'SI' the way they set up the dopey lyrics in the first half only for it to culminate in a single line of stark poetry: 'ice women'.

― don't mind me: just exhuming dead horses... (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for like 12 years i thought she was singing "are swimming," now I think she's singing "us women"

also it's "war pig fuck" duh

congratulations (n/a), Saturday, 30 January 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

for like 12 years i thought she was singing "are swimming," now I think she's singing "us women"

also it's "war pig fuck" duh

― congratulations (n/a), Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:05 PM (6 hours ago)

I think it's "I'm swimming"

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 30 January 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, official site says "I'm swimming," which is how I've always heard it, but lol ambiguity.

what of the fuck you talkie bout (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

lol 100%

plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

They really should have found 3 1/2 minutes to put Genetic on the album. It should have been a single for that much, as it is probably one of the best pop nuggets Sonic Youth made.

earlnash, Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Purr

iago g., Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I also always heard it as "I'm swimming".

"Wish Fulfilment" is the best song but I voted for "Shoot" before relistening based on the memory of how exhilarating it was to hear for the first time as a teenager. Listening now, what seemed most striking was how people who were approaching middle age could have recorded something so adolescent.

Sundar, Saturday, 30 January 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I assumed that was because they were spending all their time reading Sassy.

dlp9001, Sunday, 31 January 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ice women: maybe it IS i'm swimming, that's how I heard it at first, but some lyrics page I read said otherwise...

Shoot: this track is great, battered-wife revenge dub, it is kind of adolescent, but still awesome...I'm glad it's getting so much love!

don't mind me: just exhuming dead horses... (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 31 January 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

This is really hard - this is my favorite SY album. Ian MacKaye playing 2nd guitar on Y.A.F.! And the Untouchables/"Nic Fit" cover! And "Wish Fulfillment" is my favorite Lee song...

Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Sunday, 31 January 2010 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

just voted on the strip

Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 13 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 14 February 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

runoff!

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 February 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

how often does this happen? def got to do a runoff

iago g., Sunday, 14 February 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

weird results, didn't know people liked YAF that much and have no idea why

the cold bieber open (some dude), Sunday, 14 February 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was just about to ask whether ten people were taking the piss about that.

Sundar, Sunday, 14 February 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

none of those 3 would ever get my vote but out of just those 3 i'd vote YAF

johnny crunch, Sunday, 14 February 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i voted for YAF, it's definitely the song i like best even though the arrangement is kinda weak

twice remembered / twice removed (electricsound), Sunday, 14 February 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

went back and listened to this (rescreened?), not nearly as bad as i remembered. prob would vote for wish fulfillment

am0n, Sunday, 14 February 2010 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

man, I would have been the tie-breaker for Sugar Kane if I had seen this poll earlier... cuz of this: Like many songs on Dirty, Sugar Kane, as corny as parts of it are (just lyircs for me), the fucking instrumental passage in the middle of the song is just so so good, especially when it breaks down after the initial rock-out solo and then builds up again.Like many songs on Dirty, Sugar Kane, as corny as parts of it are (just lyircs for me), the fucking instrumental passage in the middle of the song is just so so good, especially when it breaks down after the initial rock-out solo and then builds up again.

richie aprile (rockapads), Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

oh no, i didn't see this & could've decided it for "wish fulfillment"! RUNOFF

daria-g, Sunday, 14 February 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

this really is my favorite SY 90's LP by a hair, glad Wish Fulfillment got some recognition. I think it shows the strength of the album that most everything picked up votes - mine was for Theresa's Soundworld, love that tune but I also love Sugar Kane.

sleeve, Sunday, 14 February 2010 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

You asked for it; you got it.

ha! (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

absolute best kim performances, vicious and totally confident

most production presence

biggest dumbest drums

sickest noises

most urgent riffing

best lee song?

CLOUD JAMS

i believe anita hill

'radio' songwriting fits in rather than sticking out

fat alt-rock bass

this is the best SY album forever

j., Wednesday, 9 July 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

Really think Bob Rock would have better helped them realize their vision for this one.

your best m7 (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link

THERESA'S SOUNDWORLD!

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 06:46 (nine years ago) link

WISH FULFILLMENT!

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 06:46 (nine years ago) link

SWIMSUIT ISSUE!

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 06:46 (nine years ago) link

I love Shoot and Orange Rolls, and On the Strip...

noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 July 2014 07:24 (nine years ago) link

I think the radio songwriting is a bit bad but otherwise this album owns completely. J. totally otm

noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 13 July 2014 07:25 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

90S RULE FOREVER FLANNEL 4 LIFE

j., Thursday, 30 July 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

WHERE YOU GOIN / WHERE YOU BEEN / MAKING WISHES AND WATCHIN' DREAMS

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Friday, 31 July 2015 08:17 (eight years ago) link

I believe this is the last album where Steve Shelley 'goes nuts'.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

when this came out i bought it immediately and it was my first sonic youth album. to this day it is my fave. great to listen to with full speed on the german autobahn.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link


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