scientology & celebrities

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Go to ron the music maker dot org slash music slash listen.htm if you want to hear it all. No, really.

This is the best thing ever! Thanks, Ned!

You're welcome! Trust me, the whole site is amazing.

wow that video.

i saw magnolia on cable recently and it occurs to me that maybe cruise in that movie is the closest we've ever gotten to seeing the real tom. don't die you asshole don't die you asshole

Ned, you're not wrong...

Not only did his heritage of nautical experience place him in the top ranks of professional yachtsmen, but it distinguished him as a world-class master mariner.

I did not know that.

lolz I think the only movie he's ever been in that I like even just a little bit was, uh, Legend. Otherwise - man, he's made a lot of shitty movies. Like Julia Roberts, an amazingly overpaid actor who has no real range or actorly chops, nor ever even been in a particularly great movie.

Not only did his heritage of nautical experience place him in the top ranks of professional yachtsmen, but it distinguished him as a world-class master mariner.

there is a funny story about him trying to steal a boat from Jack Parsons and Parsons putting a curse on him. (a storm arose and forced Hubbard back to port, where he was arrested and the boat confiscated and returned to Parsons)

i have to say mission impossible III was a pleasant surprise

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Holy shit, that's fucking sad.

mi 3 was good

lolz I think the only movie he's ever been in that I like even just a little bit was, uh, Legend. Otherwise - man, he's made a lot of shitty movies. Like Julia Roberts, an amazingly overpaid actor who has no real range or actorly chops, nor ever even been in a particularly great movie.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

range and chops dont really matter when it comes to being a movie star. just matters whether people like watching you onscreen.

I guess I just underestimated America's fascination with short guys and horse-faced women

" it is kind of fairyland though, right?"

Yes, to an extent.Don't want to get into it on this thread though.

On topic-I'm with SMC. What the hell is the fascination with these two people?

I always thought Cruise was a shit actor, never got the appeal. He was OK in "War of the Worlds", seems to supress some of his more annoying tics somewhat, especially the "look at my intense glary eyes" schtick. Still, like Ms A Jolie, I've found it safe to assume that any movie featuring him will blow goats & is to be avoided. I hate his face as well.

http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=458&Itemid=68

^ here is a v v entertaining read. Srsly, well worth a look.

Nicky Hopkins?! :(

Holy shit, that's fucking sad.

-- Sara Sara Sara, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:42 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Saddest one for me was Gloria Swanson. Major bummer when I read that.

I like how in the clip Cruise talks about "meeting an SP" as if it would be the greatest, most magical moment in his life

^ here is a v v entertaining read. Srsly, well worth a look.

Is that fan fic? What is that?

It would appear to be an account of mr cruise & mr speilberg's falling out, written in a weird fanficish (as you correctly point out) manner. I laffed (& believed every word of it of course)

if mr cruise is a tr00 kvlt $ceino, and he were to meet an SP, he would have to totally blank him/her y/n?

I wanted it to be true really badly. :/

he would have to totally blank him/her y/n?

would this be like when Hitler blanked a donkey?

I believe the article originally appeared in a gossip column with "mr movie star" and "mr director" in place of the actual names, and someone has C&P-ed the real names in before putting it on that website. Ha haha ha ah ahahah ahahaha aha aha etc. I believe every word of it!

x-post dunno shakey, I just read that Co$ devotees weren't allowed to talk to "suppressive persons" under any circumstances or summat.

I totally believe that story too. Or at least want to believe it. TC seems toolish enough to behave that way.

i don't know why i read all of that. why does dude go out of his way to refer to the "church" under weird nicknames only to call it by it's actual name a few pages later?

i sort of appreciate the bizarre intensity cruise brings to even his stupidest action roles (i like him in those a lot more than when he's being a "real actor" in "good films")...same w/nic cage in his b-movie stuff.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous? i understand there's a lot of 'unlock and purify yr mind' kind of stuff... is that it?

like, if this vid is supposed to be inspirational, wtf it's totally incoherent and threatening, and half the language doesn't make sense unless you're already in the tent.

The Germans have a history of some egregious behavior, to put it mildly, but they are on the right track in looking into this garbage.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous

I assume that its "we'll make you rich/powerful/famous just like our most rich/powerful/famous members!"

matt otm! this is probably total projection, but i love the subliminal little smirk all of his co-actors give him. like "i am acting well, showing a role for the camera, but you my friend, are off in never-never land." val kilmer and tom skerritt in top gun, ken watanabe in last samurai.

i swear it's there.

every movie he's in has a scene where he figures something out and his mannerisms just take over. like that scene where he plays magic tricks on jean reno in MI 1.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182452/

there's a half an hour of this stuff!!

haven't watched any of it...

if u don't want to f with slate, here's pt 1

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YZFH2HZ2

is that Mission Impossible music in the background?

man this shit is wacky but you guys are for all the cruise-movie hate!!

i mean--risky business, legend, top gun, color of money, a few good men, the firm, mission impossible 1, minority report, collateral, war of the worlds, mission impossible 3! the dude has been in all kids of classics

10. L’ENVOI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING performed by L. Ron Hubbard

This is the greatest thing ever:

"Thank you for listening
I write just for you
but others hearing this may find
things they would argue

I do not sing what I believe
I only give them facts
If they believe quite otherwise
it still will have IM-PACT!"

4. THE EVIL PURPOSE performed by Frank Stallone.

omgwtf

all the fake newspaper headlines and statistics in these videos are hilarious

http://www.lordpercy.com/Bluetooth%20logo.jpg http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/dc/75px-Scientology_new_style_logo.png

CONSPIRACY

I love how people "reading about" the prescription drugs dust-up counts as them being "exposed" or some shit.

Sunny, Scientology is nothing like Christianity in teh sense that you can not really leave from the former but you can quit the latter. Wasn't there a woman who died after she tried to leave and the Church (of Scient.) wanted to *convince* her to stay?

I watched it last night -- he wasn't acting in Magnolia, was he?

it's more like he's "on" all the time. all of his gestures--the gestures of piety, of sincerity, of amusement, of awe--read like tics to me, willful. it's like he's estrange from normal human expression and has to emulate its outward manifestations with some care. not that this isn't evident in 100 other ways, but this guy has some kind of major personality disorder.

the narrowing of the eyes, the rubbing of the bottom lip, the choked laugh, the pointed looks DIRECTLY INTO THE EYES OF THE INTERVIEWER -- none of it seems the least bit unmediated, unprepared. it's bad acting. but i've never seen him not like this.

also that repeated M:I riff sounds like Tetuzi Akiyama or something...

also (sorry for so many posts, this video is long)... he manages to seem utterly confident and yet none of his thoughts seem to be completed. it's completely incoherent, even granted the ellipses (accompanied by that weird camera click noise).

honestly a lot of this doesn't seem that far from enthusiastic forms of christianity as they have been repackaged for television. except the message isn't as...tight.

If you haven't watched the full 30 minutes of this, you haven't watched it at all. The full video is fucking disturbing.

"I can't...because....I know. I know, so...I, I, you know, you know?"

he manages to seem utterly confident and yet none of his thoughts seem to be completed. it's completely incoherent, even granted the ellipses

miscavige is even more like this (see this interview) so that's probably who he is imitating/trying to live up to

well they're also assuming a frame of reference (scientology faithful) we don't share... there seems to be a lot implied and unspoken i'm sure you'd pick up on if you were hip to the church's teachings.

"I can't...Thetans..because...SPs...I know. I know, so... E-meter...I, I, you know, you know?"

man, that salute at the start of pt 5!

"when i read that, it was just (mouths explosive sound).. you know? i was like, boom (snaps fingers), that's it"

he's the michael winslow of scientology