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kill me tomorrow/red eyed legends/starvations:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0414,eddy,52413,22.html

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

People are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for band names. I suggest Shit Layer Cake

Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Geisha are good. I mention them on Rolling Contemporary UK Metal/Post-Metal/Heavy Rock Thread , which also houses some other germane namechecks. There is a band from these parts called October File, but they're a bad Killing Joke imitation, or were last time I checked in

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I was following some friends in some street Balkan marching band around the Capitol Hill area and we walked in on a Black Elk/Akimbo show tonight at the Comet Tavern, they were all digging it and being very cool about it. nu-pigfuck is cuddlier than ol-skool-pigfuck, given this evidence.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Battleship

http://www.myspace.com/battleship

They keep their tempos speedy, like HC, but the crumbling disaster of their guitar sound matches some of the bands already mentioned.

bendy (bendy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

And I don't know any of those other bands Chuck listed, except Daughters who are from my hometown. I saw them play a bunch when I was in high school, but honestly haven't listened to the records since the first 7". I don't think they quite fit into the AmRep/T&G-revival mold, though, based on those experiences.

The last one definitely has a Jesus Lizard feel to it. Lead singer sounds like he's drunk now instead of on fire, songs are longer, slower. It's the best thing they've done but for some that might be faint praise...

Edward III (edward iii), Sunday, 19 November 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I ought to check it out, then. I know Sam is in that band now, and his old band Nova Scotia brought the heavy jams.

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

nu-pigfuck is cuddlier than ol-skool-pigfuck, given this evidence.

Squee?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

and there's British group Giddy Motors on Fat Cat that sound very much like Lizard:

http://www.myspace.com/giddymotors

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c@md3n (c@md3n), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

clockcleaner "ignorable hacks"? for shame, eddy.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, maybe I'm wrong. What exactly's supposed to be so good about them? (Here's what I wrote about their EP on the rolling '06 metal thread earlier this year; I have vague memory of hearing an even more tedious followup album months later, but I might be mistaken):

cockcleaner EP = this shouldn't be so hard to like. just six songs; four of them under two minutes each. fairly decent (and decently sized) big black-minus-roland guitar and drum churn. hey, i lived in the midwest in the '80s, i'm allowed to be nostalgic about that stupid kinda pigfuck shit. (the typography and album art even look like big black. though the "without the roland" would be better WITH the roland -- maybe this is rapeman or shellac nostalgia rather than big black nostalgia*? haven't listened to a rapeman or shellac record in eons, so i have no idea.) but the vocals are rigid and humorless, and unlike albini's in big black they don't push the songs into your face, and mixing them so low makes them even more annoying. fuck it.

* -- CD insert thing also compares them to flipper, which is baloney. are pissed jeans this shitty, too? if so, i'm not missing anything.

-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 6th, 2006.


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oops, CLOCKCLEANER. (Guess their cocks are still dirty.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 6th, 2006.

xhxuk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

But a few months later I wound up liking Pissed Jeans okay; this is from Rolling Metal '06 #2:

In other news, I have decided that I sort of like Pissed Jeans. The 12-inch EP on their own label is better than the Subpop 45, though.

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), September 15th, 2006.


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(Though then again, the people who compare Pissed Jeans to Flipper really overstate things. They're nowhere near that good. Possibly as good as Scratch Acid or Killdozer though, which is no insult. I guess the people who say Flipper are concentrating on their guitar sound, and the fact that their lyrics about being sick and desiring boring girls and cigarette butts on the ground at the mall and being ashamed of their own cum and having an ugly twin seem to have some semblance of vulnerabilty and neurosis [the substance, not the band] and heart to them. Which is good. But Flipper were a way catchier.)
-- xhuxk (fakemai...), September 15th, 2006.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What's "blackmail"?

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

he is an ilm poster.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it (he) was a mailing list.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

pissed jeans 12-inch ep? wtf are you talking about chuck?

and clockcleaner's great, esp. live. i don't think the 7" or the lp do them justice. they have a 6 song demo for new stuff that totally blows the earlier stuff out of the water.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean shit are you drunk or something or just forgetful?

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Eight songs = An EP these days (and usually those days, for that matter). (How long is it total, maybe 20 or 25 minutes?)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

We did a whole day on PTW of "Bands that sort of sound like Jesus Lizard" since I got so fucking many Yowie wowie albums in one week.

Giddy Motors: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=286
Rabies Caste: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=253
Totimoshi: paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=285

Tho, they're all more T&G style noize-rock than neo pigfuck.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

rabies caste don't remind me of jesus lizard. more of an eyehategod thing, no?

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 19 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

not maybe exactly a "pigfuck "throwback, but i think they fit in to this thread in some respect...

although they are friends of mine, I think STNNNG is operating at about as high a level both recording wise and live as any currently active band...for me at least...they had their CD release party for their new CD yesterday at the 7th St. Entry....Shellac actually came up for Chicago for the all-age early show to be a surprise opener, I know Albini and Weston are big fans....I just heard that Shannon Selberg from the Cows was up front watching right in front of the stage for the entire late show...so they seem to have the stamp of approval from some of the big wigs in the genre...

but yeah anyway their new album Fake Fake is really specular...as is their one from last year, Dignified Sissy (scott I believe I sent you a copy once, not sure if you liked it or listened to it, but I think they are well worth checking out...

http://www.myspace.com/stnnng

has some traxx, including one - hybrid animal - off the first album.

if you have a chance to see them, they are absolutely killer live.

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

stnng rule... totimoshi... aren't those guys all mills trained music students... ?

the band i was in got a lot of jesus lizard comparisons... i think i'll spare myself the embarassment.

amrep resurgences have been around for sure. start with vaz or arab on radar. (vaz are ex-amrep.)

also, today is the day = amrep. (the good records at least.) and the daughters latest is very amrep noise rock.

battleship are great, but the clear sound of the bass thumps align differently.

not all t&g = pigfuck right?

fuck embarassment, here, the band i was in:
http://www.myspace.com/noparty "reclusive"
those vocals are not me. my vox were way more nerd weird. songs about magic the gathering, d&d, rock crit, and the alphabet but to this toughish music. this new singer guy was all pals with unsane and all and wrote more disturbing lyrics. insert laff track.

rambling aside... pigfuck to me has more 'tude than anything, right? not so much the quantity of distortion in your bass's hoo haw, but the amount of toilet floor lint on your teeth.
m.

msp (mspa), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Eight songs = An EP these days (and usually those days, for that matter). (How long is it total, maybe 20 or 25 minutes?)

it's longer than 20 minutes! and it's an lp, dude. can't wait to hear the next one (which afaik has been recorded - not sure about mixed or mastered yet).

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Vaz is so awesome. it's wierd they've never gotten more hype.

for nu-Am Rep, I like The Blind Shake a lot...their album came out last year....they have now partnered up with Michael Yonkers and have an album coming out of new Yonkers songs where they are his backing band....heard a song off it, and it sounds fucking devastatin' percolatin'....

http://www.myspace.com/theblindshake

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

not super into vaz but hey they do have the cred to do it. they strike me as more amrep than tng, if that makes sense.

heard good things about stnng, will check 'em out.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah vaz is totes am rep - ex-hammerhead!

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yep. main duder paul is pretty nice and works at main drag music - def. the best instrument store in nyc.

hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 19 November 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

a couple years ago we went to nyc on vacation, and me, my wife, and a friend went to north six in BK to check out the chinese stars...both the vaz dudes were just hanging in the front bar area...introduced myself and talked to them fror a bit, nice dudes.

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

STNNNG pwn, as did thee lunch show (plus Shellac of North America last night were the best I'd seen 'em in at least 4 years.) Taking notes, here. I dl'd some Pissed Jeans & couldn't get into it but may revisit. Anybody into FT(the Shadow Government)? Do they fit into this?

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i love shadow govt, but i dunno, they are sort of on their own thing, i don't hear many old school T&G type stuff...maybe more krautrock via fugazi w.heavy sound efx manipulation....

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

shadow govt ... krautrock via fugazi w.heavy sound efx manipulation

Yow, that actually sounds more interesting to me than Pissed Jeans, or pigfuck (nu- or old-skool) in general, despite my affection for the Stunning and some of what I suppose could count as PROTO-pigfuck (per xhuxk above -- Flipper esp). Cheers.

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah their album - guns of august - is one of my favs of the year.

absolutely DESTROYED the triple rock last time i saw them live.

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

[FT(the Shadow Government)] absolutely DESTROYED the triple rock last time i saw them live.

YEAH I HEARD ALL ABOUT IT. >:(

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

If it was the show a couple weeks ago, I mean. Oh well, at least I'll be able to see STNNNG w/THE EX! there soon. :D

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

IT WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS THE SHADOW GOVT SHOW YOU MISSED!

STEVEN TYLER AND DAMO SUZUKI SAT IN WITH THE BAND!

ALLAN HOLDSWORTH AND ROBERT FRIPP HAD A GUITAR DUEL BETWEEN SETS!

SUPRISE OPENER: N.W.A. REUNION!

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

(but i'm real excited for that ex show!)

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

YEAH I HEARD MBV REUNITED FOR A SURPRISE OPENING SET, & IAN CURTIS AND DARBY CRASH WERE TEMPORARILY RESURRECTED JUST FOR THE OCCASION TOO. MY BAD.

xpost

Yeah. Never seen the Ex before. I am what you might call "stoked."

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

/ thread derailment

xero (xero), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes i was at the stnnng lunch show!

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

kicked ass but no way was i touching those cold cuts!!

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys might want to check Hunting Lodge.

http://www.myspace.com/huntinglodge

Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, a new Hunting Lodge? Not the 80's tribal-industrial band?

Guess not.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

echoing skot's comment above: i don't really feel any connection to it any more, having kinda lived through that stuff once already, and kinda feeling like i missed out for being too young, etc.

without naming any names it's a nice change of pace from what had heretofore dominated philly's indie scene. but yeah, "why now...and why so much?" has been kicking around in my head too.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 20 November 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this stuff, Clockcleaner & Pissed Jeans are both great. Pissed Jeans are better, at least on record, I haven't seen either band live.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 20 November 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm listening to geisha right now. and microwaves, but they fucked up the "tags" on those tracks so last.fm gave me a big WTF over it.

[this geisha record is mellowing out right now; i think i liked the microwaves disc a little better. in any case, this is great preparatory music for a house inspection around noon today. then i'll be singing about caulk and whatnot.]

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

having seen pissed jeans live now, they might be my favorite rock band around at the moment

bo janglin (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i really liked clockcleaner but they made me feel hopelessly old. i'm not 30 yet! wtf re nostalgia for conversations i had yesterday! [thanks noah baumbach.]

this geisha record really comes back around fwiw.

blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 20 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys should hear (and especially SEE) Hunchback. Unfortunately they don't play outside of NYC/Jersey very often. Very Killdozer/Jesus Lizard/Butthole surfers. Smart, smart catchy noisy/loud as fuck rockers. Great vox from all four members, including the lady drummer. The CD doesn't do so much justice to the live show, though. They're incredibly tight and loud and everything is crystal clear.

CROWS don't FLY in STRAIGHT LINES (orion), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
add the new album by volt to the list. kinda shellac-y, kinda jesus lizard-y.

http://www.southern.net/southern/band/VOLTT/EOM23.php

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and it's pretty good too. very controlled, tight, almost jazzy. the german version of yow doesn't exactly sound unhinged, just german. but that's okay.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ilx late to the discussion as usual

ksha (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 March 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

terrible that those clusterfuck threads didn't happen here

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 26 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I was actually thinking about having a civilized non-dickish(TM) discussion about what the honorable, responsible music critic to do is, in regards to reviewing/mentioning the upcoming record. Though I pretty much think at this point, no one is gonna touch it with a 10-foot pole.

sodamrongerbot (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 March 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

here's what you do whiney:

http://i43.tinypic.com/99mlhf.jpg

Venus in Fursuit (Future_Perfect), Friday, 26 March 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the one on Load right? I mean is it even gonna get released esp if the prevailing opinion is of the "no one is gonna touch it with a 10-foot pole" kind?

Not a musician, but I thought of Justin Fashanu for some reason (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

This kept being mentioned on VLV where everyone said it was all over BCO and now i cant even escape it on ilm

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 March 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Hopefully ILM will manage to not be quite as pro-rape as VLV

Not a musician, but I thought of Justin Fashanu for some reason (DJ Mencap), Friday, 26 March 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

jeez! was he the drummer in wives? i think i talked to that guy for minute at the 7th st entry....they played a show w/my friends and everyone flipped because prince showed up at the end with some bodyguards and hot chicks.

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I've had long AIM and phone conversations with people very close to Jeremy AND people very close the victim and I honestly still don't have enough information to form an real opinion of my own.

sodamrongerbot (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't get the controversy, plenty of musicians have done horrible/unforgivable things

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand not wanting to be in a BAND with a particularly objectionable person cuz that's a level of personal connection that could get pretty uncomfortable

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

or is this community just SO SMALL that everyone involves feels personally responsible for everybody else...?

Whats with all the littering? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's that punk rock is an actual COMMUNITY that most of us are a part of; and not just a bunch of people gawking at R. Kelly or Mystikal or Phil Spector from afar

sodamrongerbot (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

really fucked up situation.

erect the youth problem by wives is a killer record.

And guess what? I think Pitchfork is going to give it a BM. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's that punk rock is an actual COMMUNITY that most of us are a part of; and not just a bunch of people gawking at R. Kelly or Mystikal or Phil Spector from afar

― sodamrongerbot (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, March 26, 2010 11:28 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree; a lot of the pressure/responsibility being thrown around is on a friend-basis. it's really weird that it's mostly playing out on the internet, but i guess it would be like if some regular ILXor did something really bad like this.

69, Friday, 26 March 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

[moderator edit]

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Friday, 26 March 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

um not sure i get it

69, Friday, 26 March 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

but bleh what a morass

69, Friday, 26 March 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

it's probably for the best they broke up, writing or talking about or even going to the record store to buy their new record (if it even gets released) it will be forever awkward. i certainly won't be smashing my drunkdriver records any time soon, but it's a weird space between not wanting to say something off-colour about a rape and being sad one of your favourite bands broke up.

Though I pretty much think at this point, no one is gonna touch it with a 10-foot pole.

in some ways this is a real shame, especially for the rest of the band. blegh this is weird.

facepalm death (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 27 March 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

so, uh, ed, where in brooklyn??? i'll come i think.

ian, Saturday, 27 March 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome!

it's at some place called shea stadium

show starts @ 9, tinsel teeth going on 4th

I got some load records distro vinyl w/ me

鬼の手 (Edward III), Saturday, 27 March 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ok scratch that

tinsel van broke down in PA

we're not making the brooklyn show

鬼の手 (Edward III), Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

pigfucked in PA. bummer.

scott seward, Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

is the dd album still coming out? or has it already, i've lost track

― facepalm death (samosa gibreel), Friday, March 26, 2010 3:35 PM (1 week ago)

parts unknown is putting it out

get ready rubberneckers

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

will probably be my album of the year if the song they had up on load myspace is any indication. i always dreamed of a louder, less blown out lo-fi drunnkdriver and now my dream is going to come true.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

in the mean time i'm anticipating the new twin stumps

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

dd leaked & is currently kicking my ass

samosa gibreel, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

tinsel teeth album drops tomorrow

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll keep an eye out for that, they were rad openning for chinese stars last summer.

tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

not pigfuck per se, but dope body's 'natural history' is giving me some cows/jesus lizard vibes - along with some flipper/melvins plodding along the way - and helmet's notion of groove.

tho, in this case the confrontational posture of some of these bands is put aside for some welcoming goofiness...

rusty_allen, Friday, 3 August 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

think this type of stuff got subsumed into the rolling punk threads

rolling punk/non-indie underground 2012

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

but yeah dope body is rad

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

The White Suns rekkid on Load is the best nu-pigfuck of 2012

MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

ok, thx. i never payed that much attention to that thread, tbh. always thought about it more in terms of punkier or indier efforts - dunno, iceage, king tuff or nu sensae.

rusty_allen, Friday, 3 August 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

dope body record rules.

Made with creme colors that do not exist (stevie), Friday, 3 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

just remembered 90s florida band load, sounded like karp and cherubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TimaHlPv31I

am0n, Thursday, 16 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zBHU1PCCo

am0n, Thursday, 16 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link


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