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(christ, ILX is knackered tonite, innit?)

can someone tell me about these places?
king tut's
13th note/barfly?
liquid lounge
abc
barrowlands

roxy just resurrected the old thread to ask if someone could tell her about the following places.

king tut's
13th note/barfly?
liquid lounge
abc
barrowlands

very quickly, i'd say:

tut's rocks, still. bit up its own arse inna "ooh look we're tut's and everybody's played here and did you know alan mcgee signed oasis while wiping his arse in that there cludgie?" but a great place to hang out, all the same. the actual stage area is a big cramped but fuck it, i saw isis and trans am there and they were both life-changing experiences.

13th note/barfly/mono/stereo is too complex a tale to go into here. someone else can do that. all you need know is that the bar still trading as the 13th note at the bottom of king street is now a bit pointless; that mono, opposite, carries on the spirit of the "old" 13th note admirably; and that barfly, which occupies the space held briefly by the ill-fated 13th note "club", is ... er, barfly.

liquid lounge: no idea. never been, to my knowledge.

abc: used to be a cinema. was more interesting then. nice enough, but soulless. that said, i've never been to the smaller venue within it, just the main hall.

barrowland: legendary. beyond words at this point in time. just godlike.

glasgow venues in terms of size/size of bands that play there, from smallest to biggest: 13th note/barfly/tut's/abc/carling academy/barrowland/SECC.

HTH!

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wowza!!!

(If the Liquid Lounge is where I think it is, which is the corner of West Regent Street and Hope Street)

I like the 13th note and Barfly. I think this is a bit controversial of me.

I don't really like Tut's.

I like the ABC, esp the small bit.

I don't see what the big deal about the Barrowland is.

i don't dislike the 13th note; i just don't see the point in it, given that mono now does what it used to do 100 times better.

barfly ... i dunno. i've had some great nights there. and hell, I SAW M83 THERE AND THAT WAS LIKE SEEING THE FACE OF GOD. but it's kinda freaky, and smells a bit.

x-post 1: FUCKING HUGE. but not as huge as the SECC, which is just pish. the perfect size, say, to see motorhead. which i did.

x-post 2: bible john. he quoted scripture as he murdered them. or something.

Roxy, are you coming to do musicky things in Glasgow? Or are you just being nosey?

I need German beer too, but the old bank balance is looking a bit rubbish. Have fun!

the same year i saw massive attack at the arches, with horace andy, which was even better.

don't bands play at nice 'n sleazy's?

Bands do indeed play at Nice'n'Sleazys. I have seen many an excellent band there.

I think it goes Rooftops (now called something else), then QM, then Barrowlands, then SECC.

Barrowlands is somewhere in the region of 1500-2000, I believe.

There's always the Cathouse!

i thought mono had some interesting ppl play there every now and then, sorry to hear it's a shithole

i have enjoyed many of the subcurrent performances at the CCA - again, gd sound, nice and loud - but the venue itself gives off the same snooty vibe as london's ica.

a few doors before the cca there was another venue - seemed to have a sort've middling range of acts - janis ian was playing there when i was in glasgow earlier this year - what's that?

i went for a drink in king tut's on the same visit. didn't seem to be anybody of any note on their gig flyer, but enjoyed the stude/crusty/saxondale vibe as I had nice cool beer, after walking the entire fucking length of argyle st looking for volcanic tongue

there seems to be an interesting venue in edinburgh, some sort of cellar bar?? that has some noize gigs i shall prob go to (also finally a chance to see Dick Gaughan, in September, in Edinburgh)

moving to glasgow on the 12th, just need to get a van sorted, excited

it's not a shithole it's a pretty good place. it's just bad for gigs because it's not set up properly and it's amateurish (not charming, sorry) also bar staff can be slighly cuntish? it has an excellent record shop that might be up your street, ward.

did you find Volcanic tongue? i've never been.

the place near the CCA is the ABC. the CCA has zero atmosphere but the sound can be good, yes.

the ABC is the one near the CCA

you should have been to king tut's before it was totally "gentrified" which it has been (I feel), as opposed to mostly "gentrified"

etc

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well, acts i've seen there include grace jones, public enemy, hawkwind, the cocteau twins, ministry, sonic youth, kraftwerk etc. i think i might possibly also hold the dubious distinction of having performed there more than any other living person. maybe i'll get a plaque one day.

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The ABC (and ABC2) may be soulless (actually, I don't think they are, but I've only ever seen acts I really like in both of them, so haven't had a shitey experience there yet), but they also have the most fantastically well-stocked bar of any gig venue I've seen. And, as Madchen pointed out, a HUGE glitterball. We spent some of a gig once watching the crowd reflected in the mirrorball. It was kind of cool.

The Arches was a good venue when I was last there in about 1995.