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33 otm, jeepers creepers classic

I have the ethan hawkes hamlet, spoils of war

safe
silent running
playtime
electra-glide in blue
[...]

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

[...]
home alone
die hard
[...]

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

is home alone a like? i sure like it

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

of course!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

why all the hate for fight club, doom generation, mulholland drive and american beauty?!?

― nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I would replace Mulholland Dr. with The Story Of Us on my list because Mulholland Dr has a really great lesbian titty scene

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Van Helsing would certainly be among the worst films I've ever seen, but I doubt that I will keep watching - Big Brother on in a bit, y'know... VH particularly has some deeply painful acting - Wolverine's fine, but Dracula is plumbing depths rarely approached, admittedly with the help of the worst dialogue anyone's been handed since Ed Wood's heyday.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 16 July 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

why all the hate for fight club, doom generation, mulholland drive and american beauty?!?

i understand the fight club hate, but i put it number 1 anyway; just a big film for me personally, and a kind of totem i guess for intelligent populist modern cinema. the others are shit, though.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Mulholland Dr., Fight Club is OK, American Beauty isn't a bad film (which makes it easier to dislike, I think - bad films are bad films, dislikable are another category) but yeah, Doom Generation is a steaming pile of shit.

I didn't think Van Helsing was any worse than your average comic-book movie (better than either Spidey or the X-Men films). Bad but not inconceivably bad.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The 'Burbs
Grands Canyon
Captain Ron
Bowfinger
Uncle Buck
Sgt. Bilko
Get Smart: The Nude Bomb
Father of the Bride
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Brewster's Millions

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

[...]
la collectioneuse
the swimmer
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― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 16 July 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

kids is a really bad film

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

omg BAD SANTA

― g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

fave
irma vep

unfave
demonlolver

― g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

haha now THAT's what i call a typo

― g e o f f (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

5. bernie mac (even BAPS)
6. john ritter (even problem child 2)

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

gff when you said the new kid did you mean THE NEW GUY w/ dj qualls?

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

7. chevy chase

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, THE NEW GUY. i love that fucking movie

― demonlolver (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

road trip >>>> the new guy

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

idk how i cld not have seen charlies angels full throttle! he gets a girl in the new guy right? horatio sanz wow

haha maybe, i wanna like stay 3 nights w anyone who owns all these comedies and watch and rank them and be able to just hop from chapter to chapter in passing

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

is road trip better than like harold and kumar? is eurotrip real bad? whatre the other movies like this, recent, thatre ok? maybe high school vs college is a bonus idk

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

never saw harold & kumar but road trip is classic i almost peed when i watched it the 1st time

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

othon
sicilia!
dalla nube alla resistenza
du jour au lendemain
kronik der anna magdalena bach
moses und aron
lothringen!
la mort d'empedocle
toute révolution est un coup de dés
einleitung zu arnold schoenbergs "begleitmusik zu einer lichtspielscene"

― --bruno, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/dreamworks_skg/road_trip/_group_photos/breckin_meyer7.jpg

― 33, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

omg

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

is the kid on the left in movies alot?

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

(tracer hand, mitch lastnamewithheld, s trife, calum robert waddel)

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

guess not, paulo! is josie and the pussycats really funny tho? its rep is that its smart? i like rosario and tara reid of course

haha yeah fucking up a wagon

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i dunno i saw it and laughed a couple times but its so cutesy/smarmy and the "intelligent teen movie" is a bad genre overall except for election and maybe clueless

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

exactly re genre, id totally give clueless a pass tho. way before election i think

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

dude bruno aren't those all straub-huillet movies?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i wasnt sure if it counted tho

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost, i mean clueless

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

xp well ok i forgot abt broderick completely. broderick is funny

i sorta wanted all those movies to be invented!

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

what about heckerlings apartment remake LOSER with biggs & suvari reunited!!! love that one but its a lil too smarty pants sometimes

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

xp oh i see, yeah! plus a woman director! its kind of too warm, in a gd way, so many wrinkled noses, clueless

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i need to see loser again, i dont remember any of it, cept maybe suvari is esp cute and less otherworldly? less american beauty i probably mean. heckerling did european vacation holy shit

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

dan savage's defense of road trip was great

― demonlolver (gcannon), Saturday, 16 July 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah. everything i know i learned from straub.
what do you think of them, amateurist ?

― --bruno, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

this is really 2 difft threads huh

― 3, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i know the bare bones of carmen jones, i just havent seen it.
i was hoping it might the passolini, but i suspected it would be the powell.
its weird, i admire the desire for emotional cathasris as a legit love for film, and that you dont love melodrama for the fashionable reasons.

― anthony, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

pasolini is so great, and sad but i just realised ive seen almost none of his shit, mamma roma is so nice esp when its comedy, im starting to understand ppl saying those period italian films are kind of superior, just so dressed, vaguely dusty period pieces

― 007 (thoia), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Salo features lots of his shit.

― Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

60s/70s italian cinema is the shit, 'they' need to look beyond spaghetti westerns + drop some bellocchio on us.

i didn't enjoy 'salo'.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Salo a lot. I don't know how familiar you are with the 120 Days of Sodom, but against that perspective Salo comes off mostly as a playful lampooning of the Fascists (and prob'ly, by extended analogy, the authorities in 70s Italy).

― Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

you cd probably guess i haven't read '120 DOS', but i get the impression it's unfilmable as written. i think i like aspects of PPP but he's kind of not good at pulling all of it together, you know? in the later stuff anyway. i must see 'oedpus re'.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I do mostly prefer the 60s stuff to the later stuff and Salo's kind of an exception to that rule. 120 Days is pretty much unfilmable, unless it was shot as the least erotic porn movie ever. It starts to get unspeakably horrible round about Day 30. The villains in the 120 Days are portrayed by Sade as these super-icons of badness, whereas the villains in Salo are, well, a bit shit and inept really. Pasolini even at the end of his career does long shots on fascinating faces really well.

― Scream! Scrovula, Scream! (noodle vague), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

election is smug and awful, there's like a billion teen movies better than that one.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Right Stuff
Before Sunset
Running on Empty
Eyes Wide Shut
Gates of Heaven
Do the Right Thing
High and Low
Days of Heaven
All the President's Men
Rear Window

Life is Beautiful
Natural Born Killers
Signs
Jerry Maguire
One Hundred and One Dalmatians
Trainspotting
Best In Show
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
The Usual Suspects
The Wizard of Oz

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

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