I just watched _The Third Man_ in full for the first time

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It's sorta ridiculous, what I've been able to find used at local stores DVD wise. A LOT of Critierion releases for a start.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

just saw this last week, and almost posted a thread on this.

i did like how Bernard Lee played the British Sergeant, and later "M".

― Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link

Ned - if you see Diary Of A Country Priest used I suggest you BUY. As for Welles stuff -- the Othello restored DVd is fairly excellent, except for a few gripes I have with the new music score they recorded for it.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

There's all sorts of great movie love stuff in it, but taken as a whole it isn't all that special.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

i did like how Bernard Lee played the British Sergeant, and later "M".

I know, it was bugging me for a bit that I knew the actor but couldn't place him, even though Lee had a fairly distinct voice (though M did speak differently). And I have the first five Bonds on DVD as well!

There's all sorts of great movie love stuff in it, but taken as a whole it isn't all that special.

Hm, I'd have to think about that more after reviewing it sometime. Definitely worked as a first time experience, though I had guessed the exact nature of the 'third man' riddle about a third of the way in or so.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

This movie is so utterly wonderful and spectacular. But I need to see it again soon.

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

i saw it in vienna once and then went to the prater and rode the ferris wheel!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

Were you mentally destroyed by the experience?

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

plus, they used to show us bits of the flick in film class. as the prof noted, "watch how the screen tilts. everytime the frame is tilted like that, someone is lying to Holly."

― Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

That's called a fuckin' "Dutch tilt" for a reason, ya know.

― Tiny Fuckin Robot, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

everytime the frame is tilted like that, someone is
lying to Holly

What about the chase/action sequences filmed that way?

"You think I'm pursuing you! But I'm not!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

Were you mentally destroyed by the experience?

no, but i was psyched by all those tax-free dots down there!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

You'd take all the money you could, you 'orrible man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

tax-free, old man!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

The Swiss invented Yello, Celtic Frost and the Young Gods = FUCK YOUR ITALIAN RENAISSANCE CRAP.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:19 (twenty years ago) link

Bond Facts:
Not just Bernard Lee. One of the Bond directors worked as editor (or something on 'The Third Man', and you get a nice/terrible 'Third Man' pastiche in 'The Living Daylights'.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:25 (twenty years ago) link

I think this has my favourite ending of any film. Just last month while I watched someone walk up the long road away from my flat and out of my life forever, I thought "This is just like the end of the 'Third Man'".

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:37 (twenty years ago) link

OMG. I just went to the Criterion website. OMG. I need to get a high-paying job STAT cos some of those (the Fassbinder BRD trilogy, esp) look absolutely INCREDIBLE. Thanks Christ for the strong £! Down with the $!!!

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 19 February 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

Fairly chunky period of my life when I'd have named this as my favourite film. Wouldn't go that far now (others have stood up to repeated viewing better) but still a very great classic. It has a more organic feel than Kane or Touch of Evil and I certainly prefer it to the former (albeit a lot less mind-blowingly impressive or "influential"). If you like TTM, "The Man Between" is an very underrated subsequent effort by Reed with a lot of the same ingredients, including the corrupt, seedy post-war central European setting and stunning photography (plus it has James Mason). Not quite as great, inevitably, but pushes a lot of the same buttons.

― ArfArf, Thursday, 19 February 2004 12:55 (twenty years ago) link

One of the Bond directors worked as editor (or something on 'The Third Man'

Guy Hamilton, assistant director to Reed, director of Goldfinger and a couple of others later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

I've got a photo of me in the doorway where Orson Welles first appears.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Do you look surprised, amused and fascinated all at once?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link

No, I look blurry. My girlfriend shook the camera.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

How arty.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

That's what she said. Domestic violence resolved the issue.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

Um.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:08 (twenty years ago) link

WOMEN BE (PHOTO)SHOPPIN'!

― Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...

I have three words for you: The Fallen Idol.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

A thread about "The Third Man" with no mention of Alida Valli!?!??!?!

http://www.istrianet.org/istria/illustri/valli/images/valli1-300.jpg

― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I saw The Fallen Idol yesterday for the first time in a decade probably. The scene of Phil running through the London streets after the accident looks very much like a visual dry run for the Vienna nighttime stuff in T3M (which, from the first few posts above, does indeed appear to be the most miscredited film of all time; I wonder how irked Reed was about Welles contributing some dialogue grew over the years into it being HIS movie...).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i gotta see the fallen idol sometime...

i was just thinking about how this one of the movies i could probably watch at any given time.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Having got back from Vienna yesterday, I definitely need to see this again...

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Morbius, I went last night too. Maybe we should have waited until today, since the guy who played the kid is going to make an appearance.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

great movie!! where is the thread with mark's hilarious post about the old dude at the hotel and his 'just a moment!' finger

― ,,, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I am pleased by Ned's reaction to this movie.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

There's all sorts of great movie love stuff in it, but taken as a whole it isn't all that special.

Oh, pish.

A thread about "The Third Man" with no mention of Alida Valli!?!??!?!

It's worse that there's only passing mention of Graham Greene.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oddly enough I just passed by a library cart with a VHS copy of this film on it. COINCEDENCE?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i saw this in a little theatre when i went to vienna!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you afterwards go up in the Big Wheel in Prater and look down on the people on the ground and contemplate their mortality?

One time I went to the Walter Reade to see some old unseen postwar German movies that had previously been dismissed as being "Papas Kino" and I recognized that guy and said "Hey, that's the guy who runs the hotel in The Third Man!" and a German lady of a certain age with lots of hairspray in her (probably dyed) blonde hair turned to me and said: "That's Paul HÃ¶rbiger," drawing out the umlaut as long as possible. Then I looked him up on IMDB and found out his was in more than 100 movies!

A thread about "The Third Man" with no mention of Alida Valli!?!??!?!
I

know her only as "Valli."

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

100? More like 252! He's been in almost as many movies as Isaac Asimov has written books!

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

speaking of Third Man references...anyone see XXX? That Vin Diesel film? A real classic, I know, but at some point they go to Prague, the setting suddenly shifts to generic eastern europe city, and you see someone playing the Third Man theme on a zither or hammered dulcimer or whatever the hell it is. I can't remember if they just fucked the location up or if they said it was vienna and I just recognized it as being shot in Prague, but I think they said Prague.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Meh. What's 250 miles among friends?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Da waren wir uns aber unsicher!

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Or, one mile for each movie in Paul Hoerbiger's filmography

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you afterwards go up in the Big Wheel in Prater and look down on the people on the ground and contemplate their mortality?

yes as a matter of fact!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

And whose name did you trace in the dust on the windowpane? C'mon, you can tell us!

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I am jealous as fuck at all of you who can see The Fallen Idol in NYC.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, Alfred. I can't even remember how I saw it the first time, all those years ago. After I got home last night I listened to what Geoffrey O'Brien said about it on WFMU and he pretty much got it right, as he usually does. And yeah, you really notice the restored, previously censored material in this one.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Let me also note that I love those trademark Vincent Korda diamond-latticed checkerboarded sets.

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard some of that O'Brien thing, Ken, but don't have access to the archives. What was the censored stuff? The more 'explicit' dialogue re Baines-Julie's affair?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

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I never knew ye olde ILX before the war, with its sinister music, its 12ft lizards and poxy fules.

― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 January 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link

Harry, delete ILX plz

― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 January 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link

A few borad beefs, a few image bombz - why don’t you try and catch a real troll, Callahan?

― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 January 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

_"I never knew the old Vienna before the war, with its Strauss music, its glamour and easy charm."_

Constantinople suited me better

I really got to know it in the classic period of the black market. We’d run anything if people wanted it enough and had the money to pay.

― Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:44 (one year ago) link

still, good fellows, on the whole. did their best, you know.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:48 (one year ago) link

Oh, Paine, Paine.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:51 (one year ago) link

I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime.

― Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:53 (one year ago) link

i’ve got them muddled

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 02:39 (one year ago) link

Vienna doesn't really look any worse than a lot of other European cities. Bombed about a bit.

― omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link

all's well that ends well! ladies and gentlemen, i have much pleasure in introducing mr. holly martins, from the other side.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:13 (one year ago) link

He's only a scribbler with too much drink in him. Take Mr. Holly home.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:21 (one year ago) link

That's Mr Martins' little joke, of course. We all know perfectly well Zane Grey wrote what we call "westerns."

― omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:23 (one year ago) link

It wasn't for German gin.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link

We just watched an episode of Richard Ayoade's Travel Man where they do The Third Man tour and are underwhelmed. Hats off to whoever had the idea to turn the actual sewer system into a tourist trap.

― Chris L, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

I am annoyed that's not an actual quote from the film.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime.

iirc there is a cut and change of location between the two halves of this line, implying payne has been enthusing cheerfully about westerns for an entire jeep ride

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 03:57 (one year ago) link

Have you, Sergeant? Author? Martins? Thank you, Sergeant.
☝🏻😗

― omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 04:12 (one year ago) link

lolllll

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 04:22 (one year ago) link

i can't very well introduce you to everybody.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 04:22 (one year ago) link

Truly delightful character, responsible for one of the most clever tricks in cinema.

― omar little, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 04:44 (one year ago) link

no! a major? did you really?

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 06:59 (one year ago) link

_I like a good Western. That’s what I like about them, sir. You can pick them up and put them down anytime._

iirc there is a cut and change of location between the two halves of this line, implying payne has been enthusing cheerfully about westerns for an entire jeep ride

Yes! It starts as they are leaving the bar which dissolves into them entering the hotel.

― Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Sacher

― Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link

Mr. Crabbin?

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link

Once when I was hard up I sold some tyres on the black market.

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

Even at the end his thoughts were of you.

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link

What's the use of another post-mortem?

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link

On, pinning things on girls now!

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link

Hilda!
Ja?
Führen Sie den Herrn herein!

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link

some ice for mr. martins!

― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 February 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

Am I wrong in thinking that for some movies, excessive quoting drains the life from them, but not this one?

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 February 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

By some I mean most.

― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 February 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I watched this with my 12 yo and we got to the last scene where the leaves are falling and Anna walks by Holly without acknowledging him and I started laughing…my kid looked at me strangely and I told him he’d understand when he’s older

― pioneering hardcore username technologies (calstars), Saturday, 2 March 2024 00:30 (one month ago) link

you found out my little secret. a man must live.

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 2 March 2024 04:13 (one month ago) link

Damn that scene is so sad!!!!

― ian, Saturday, 2 March 2024 16:50 (one month ago) link

sometimes he said i laughed too much

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 2 March 2024 17:45 (one month ago) link

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