The Flying Burritto Brothers -- The Gilded Palace of Sin C/D

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Flying+Burrito+Brothers&search_type=search_videos

Incidentally, this seems like a different version of the song than the album version--where can you get it?

Love,

Steve Shasta

looks like i'm not the only one in love with that track.
Help! Obsessed with Flying Burrito Brothers' "Wheels"

SO GORGEOUISSSSS

The jukebox is playin'
A honky-tonk song
"One more," I keep sayin'
"And then I'll go home"
What good will it do me
I know what I'll find
An empty bottle, a broken heart
And you're still on my mind

The people are dancin'
And havin' their fun
And I sit here thinkin'
About what you have done
To try and forget you
I've turned to the wine

An empty bottle, a broken heart
And you're still on my mind

Alone and foresaken
So blue I could cry
I just sit here drinkin'
'Til the bottle runs dry
What good will it do me
I know what I'll find
An empty bottle, a broken heart
And you're still on my mind

An empty bottle, a broken heart
And you're still on my mind

"Juanita" is like the greatest song of all time.

Chris Hillman rules

I think "Wheels" is a little dud-ish. There's something about the tempo that gets me for some reason. I'll rep for "My Uncle" since no one here has yet. Makes me want to move to Vancouver.

"Wheels" is great!!!!!!!!!!!

It can't be helped. I've listened to this album 8,400 times and I skipped wheels about 8,374 of those times. i feel like the song kinda stalls at "we've all got whee-" and has to start back up at "-eeels" and it exhausts me to listen to it

A sad old soldier once told me a story
About a battlefield that he was on
He said a man should never fight for glory
He must know what is right and what is wrong
So I'm heading for the nearest foreign border
Vancouver may be just my kind of town
Because they don't need the kind of law and order
That tends to keep a good man underground, yeah now,
I don't know how much I owe my uncle
But I suspect it's more than I can pay

how come this album is so great and gram parsons' stuff so shite

^^rong

Another great one that has recently come into view--their version of "Image of Me" (a cover, if memory serves?)...
fantastic.

i don't think the parsons stuff is shite per se, but it certainly doesn't hold a candle to Gilded Palace or Sweetheart (given that his involvement there was a bit limited, you know.) BUT, those Sundazed anthologies with Gram doing lead vocals on sweetheart tracks = great.

how come this album is so great and gram parsons' stuff so shite

Chris Hillman

that new hillman/burritos book would certainly have you believe that!

parsons solo work is way better than any post-Gilded Palace hillman work imo. you can definitely say hillman & the other burritos made parsons focus a bit more, sure.

i don't think the parsons stuff is shite per se, but it certainly doesn't hold a candle to Gilded Palace or Sweetheart (given that his involvement there was a bit limited, you know.) BUT, those Sundazed anthologies with Gram doing lead vocals on sweetheart tracks = great.

― ian, Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:39 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

^^^ just wanna point out that i am otm here. everyone should listen to that royal albert hall concert.

i dunno, i prefer g.p. solo albums to this one. this one is a little too on-the-nose.

What do you mean?

i don't think the parsons stuff is shite per se, but it certainly doesn't hold a candle to Gilded Palace or Sweetheart (given that his involvement there was a bit limited, you know.) BUT, those Sundazed anthologies with Gram doing lead vocals on sweetheart tracks = great.

― ian, Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:39 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

^^^ just wanna point out that i am otm here. everyone should listen to that royal albert hall concert.

Just for clarification, are you implying that Gram is on that Royal Albert Hall concert? (He isn't.)

oops that's my mistake--i'm thinking of Sanctuary IV.

(but the royal albert hall concert rules as well.)

is there anything different on Sanctuary IV that's not on the deluxe Sweetheart CD?

I was going to ask the same question!

Also, do recordings of the Byrds appearance on the Grand Ole Opry exist in any form whatsoever?

In similar news, Neil V. Rosenberg's awesome book Bluegrass: A History has a fantastic pic of the Byrds hanging with John Hartford during the Sweetheart sessions.

yeah there's a bootleg with the Grand Ole Opry appearance. It's pretty good, though pretty loose.

reading that hotel california book is kind of a bummer. everyone really thought gram was a shit. he had his champions, but so many people just saw him as a starfucking rich boy.

I like the way he was portrayed in the Stanley Booth book about The Rolling Stones.

There was a book about GP that came out a while back that was mentioned on this thread: Rate End Of Year Music Books As: Worth Buying, Worth Taking Out Of Library, Worth Browsing in Store, Wouldn't Touch With A Tenpole Tudor

it really does seem like gram was a total asshole. there's a chris hillman quote that goes like, "gram would've been great if he had any fucking loyalty or respect at all."

chris hillman is super bitter tho. i can understand why he gets sick of all the gram attention, but he's kinda ott with it now. and his disdain for parsons didn't prevent hillman from taking part in the (high profile!) gram tribute album.

it's true, but it's not as though chris is the only one saying such things.

I don't know. Chris Hillman doesn't seem at all bitter to me. In fact, I really enjoy his interviews. He's brutally honest and lacks any romance (totally unlike David Crosby who continues to spout hippie-fried rubbish that's been proven wrong time and time again). He isn't afraid to point out who was an ass and who squandered his/her talent in a scene flooded with both types. He often praises the insane talent that both Gram and Gene Clark possessed, but he's also quick to point out that both were drug-addled messes. I think it's only fair.

For a guy who was surrounded by debauchery and excess and insanely massive egos for a good ten years, Hillman seems awfully healthy, happy and well balanced -- but tough, too. He has a bluegrass background. He's a pro who is serious about music and getting work done and not putting up with the BS.

We've talked about this before, but I don't think the Byrds would've been nearly as productive between 1965 and '68 were it not for Hillman's fortitude. In addition to his bass playing and songwriting, dude was an anchor for one flake after another.

That's just my impression.

Hillman's playing on "Triad" is my favorite Byrds moment.

the "hot burritos" book that came out last year with heavy input by hillman seems to be a hatchet job. it goes well beyond the "he pissed away his talent" and goes into disparaging the gram solo albums and saying $1000 wedding isn't a good song and shit like that.

Personally, I think Gram's solo albums are flawed, and I don't have a problem with anybody disparaging them (especially a guy who knew him better than most -- as an artist, of course). Those albums have some incredible highs, but there's some awfully mediocre music to be found on both, as well as shoddy production. I dig the dude A LOT, but I do think the myth of Gram Parsons is bigger than his actual musical output warrants. In my opinion, there are several country-folk and country-rock artists from that era who were Gram's equal and who aren't worshipped like he is. I can walk into a record store and find a fat stack of CDs all repackaging the same 30-40 tunes of his, yet in the country section there's no chance of finding reissues of Mickey Newbury's early albums, all of which are, in my opinion, better from beginning to end than either one of Gram's solo albums. Newbury was dropping one brilliant album after another, each one redefining the intersection of country, folk, rock and soul.

Of course, this whole debate depends on what you think of Gram's solo output: utter perfection, great but flawed, overrated crap, etc.

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2 of my fave hollywood country records. 1966 and 1967. (i'm a bigger rick fan than gram fan.)

i think GP is way better than grievous angel, but off the top of my head i really can't tell you why. i don't think i even own grievous angel anymore. traded it. gilded palace was always the One for me. spent so many hours listening to that record.

i don't think gram is above criticism, but hillman comes off as "he was crap except when he was writing with me" which is self-serving at the very least. and parsons has 0% responsibility for the fawning cult that grew up after his death, so cheap shots at him seem more than a little petty. mcguinn also has stated being puzzled by the whole gram myth but he does so w/o belittling gram's talent

i just finished that hotel california book. man, nobody gets out of that book alive. everyone ends up looking pretty shitty. what a depressing read. and there are slams galore from everyone. i should have kept a list of which kiss-off songs were about who. so many. i don't think i knew that Blue was all about James Taylor. joni, jeez, so many dudes and so many dude songs. linda ronstadt dissing neil young! actually linda ronstadt might be the only person who comes out okay in that book. and jackson browne actually.

okay, here's my confession: i've never heard the Hearts & Flowers albums! i gotta go get them. THEY are the band that everyone in that book idolized and ripped-off.

The Eagles seem like real bros in that Hotel California book iirc

(Kidding, they seem like the biggest a-holes of all. Shocker!)

i might actually break down and get the collectors choice 2-cd H&F set cuz they have tons of bonus tracks on them.

it's kind of a three way tie for king asshole in that book: stills/crosby/frey

if i take anything away from that book its probably this: ladies loved them some JD Souther!

Speaking of which: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=342

oh and craziest thing in that book: stills doing so much coke that he thought he had fought in vietnam. he didn't think this for a night or a weekend, he actually would hallucinate this for years!

The jukebox is playin'
A honky-tonk song
"One more," I keep sayin'
"And then I'll go home"

I played in a band that covered this, and for simplicity/in-jokiness we always wrote it on the setlist as JUICEBOX.

you know, i mistook this thread for a byrds-sweetheart of the rodeo thread. i do prefer gilded palace to gram solo (by some distance), but prefer both to sweetheart.

i prefer notorious byrd brothers to just about everything on earth.

when i'm playing it anyway.

Anyone know who the brunette woman on the front and back cover is? The internet's not turning up anything.

from Hickory Wind: The Life and Times of Graham Parsons

To get photographs for the cover of their first album. Gilded Palace of Sin, A&M art director Tom Wilkes took the Burritos to Pearblossom. To back up Mother Nature, Tom and photographer Barry Feinstein also hired two models, dressed and made up to look like hookers. The models, a miniskirted brunette and a blonde in a knit cap and wine-colored pantsuit, posed like the mannequins they were hired to be; they allowed themselves to be embraced and held aloft by various Burritos.

from Hot Burritos: the true story of the Flying Burrito Brothers

Two female models, Suzanne and Bridget, pose provocatively in the shed's open doorway.

I can't find anything more specific than that.

Thanks--can't find last names. She's stunning in the film footage from that shoot.

this is such a great record. on one level it's a pretty exhaustive travestying of country music cliches. on the other hand it sustains such a provocative ambivalence about the country-music zeitgeist in sound and meaning. it's also just really musically inventive and full of hooks. i never fail to be astonished by how /young/ parsons and hillman were when they made this really sophisticated and subtle record: 22 and 44, respectively.

btw what is currently considered the best-sounding issue of this album? i have a beat-up original copy i play for kicks sometimes, and i also have this two-fer: http://www.amazon.com/Gilded-Palace-Sin-Burrito-Deluxe/dp/B000024R2P/

but i see that there are a few more recently CD and vinyl issues, including a 2010 japanese CD and a 2007 Four Men with Beards LP (which given 4MwB's track record I'm assuming is trash)

this is like a six-star album for me

in other news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MchWI3sLUQo

i know, it's not on this album, but i wasn't about to start a thread for their 2nd album