scientology & celebrities

I believe the article originally appeared in a gossip column with "mr movie star" and "mr director" in place of the actual names, and someone has C&P-ed the real names in before putting it on that website. Ha haha ha ah ahahah ahahaha aha aha etc. I believe every word of it!

x-post dunno shakey, I just read that Co$ devotees weren't allowed to talk to "suppressive persons" under any circumstances or summat.

I totally believe that story too. Or at least want to believe it. TC seems toolish enough to behave that way.

i don't know why i read all of that. why does dude go out of his way to refer to the "church" under weird nicknames only to call it by it's actual name a few pages later?

i sort of appreciate the bizarre intensity cruise brings to even his stupidest action roles (i like him in those a lot more than when he's being a "real actor" in "good films")...same w/nic cage in his b-movie stuff.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous? i understand there's a lot of 'unlock and purify yr mind' kind of stuff... is that it?

like, if this vid is supposed to be inspirational, wtf it's totally incoherent and threatening, and half the language doesn't make sense unless you're already in the tent.

The Germans have a history of some egregious behavior, to put it mildly, but they are on the right track in looking into this garbage.

what is the actual hook of co$, to the non-famous

I assume that its "we'll make you rich/powerful/famous just like our most rich/powerful/famous members!"

matt otm! this is probably total projection, but i love the subliminal little smirk all of his co-actors give him. like "i am acting well, showing a role for the camera, but you my friend, are off in never-never land." val kilmer and tom skerritt in top gun, ken watanabe in last samurai.

i swear it's there.

every movie he's in has a scene where he figures something out and his mannerisms just take over. like that scene where he plays magic tricks on jean reno in MI 1.

http://www.slate.com/id/2182452/

there's a half an hour of this stuff!!

haven't watched any of it...

if u don't want to f with slate, here's pt 1

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=YZFH2HZ2

is that Mission Impossible music in the background?

man this shit is wacky but you guys are for all the cruise-movie hate!!

i mean--risky business, legend, top gun, color of money, a few good men, the firm, mission impossible 1, minority report, collateral, war of the worlds, mission impossible 3! the dude has been in all kids of classics

10. L’ENVOI, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING performed by L. Ron Hubbard

This is the greatest thing ever:

"Thank you for listening
I write just for you
but others hearing this may find
things they would argue

I do not sing what I believe
I only give them facts
If they believe quite otherwise
it still will have IM-PACT!"

4. THE EVIL PURPOSE performed by Frank Stallone.

omgwtf

all the fake newspaper headlines and statistics in these videos are hilarious

http://www.lordpercy.com/Bluetooth%20logo.jpg http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/dc/75px-Scientology_new_style_logo.png

CONSPIRACY

I love how people "reading about" the prescription drugs dust-up counts as them being "exposed" or some shit.

Sunny, Scientology is nothing like Christianity in teh sense that you can not really leave from the former but you can quit the latter. Wasn't there a woman who died after she tried to leave and the Church (of Scient.) wanted to *convince* her to stay?

I watched it last night -- he wasn't acting in Magnolia, was he?

it's more like he's "on" all the time. all of his gestures--the gestures of piety, of sincerity, of amusement, of awe--read like tics to me, willful. it's like he's estrange from normal human expression and has to emulate its outward manifestations with some care. not that this isn't evident in 100 other ways, but this guy has some kind of major personality disorder.

the narrowing of the eyes, the rubbing of the bottom lip, the choked laugh, the pointed looks DIRECTLY INTO THE EYES OF THE INTERVIEWER -- none of it seems the least bit unmediated, unprepared. it's bad acting. but i've never seen him not like this.

also that repeated M:I riff sounds like Tetuzi Akiyama or something...

also (sorry for so many posts, this video is long)... he manages to seem utterly confident and yet none of his thoughts seem to be completed. it's completely incoherent, even granted the ellipses (accompanied by that weird camera click noise).

honestly a lot of this doesn't seem that far from enthusiastic forms of christianity as they have been repackaged for television. except the message isn't as...tight.

If you haven't watched the full 30 minutes of this, you haven't watched it at all. The full video is fucking disturbing.

"I can't...because....I know. I know, so...I, I, you know, you know?"

he manages to seem utterly confident and yet none of his thoughts seem to be completed. it's completely incoherent, even granted the ellipses

miscavige is even more like this (see this interview) so that's probably who he is imitating/trying to live up to

well they're also assuming a frame of reference (scientology faithful) we don't share... there seems to be a lot implied and unspoken i'm sure you'd pick up on if you were hip to the church's teachings.

"I can't...Thetans..because...SPs...I know. I know, so... E-meter...I, I, you know, you know?"

man, that salute at the start of pt 5!

"when i read that, it was just (mouths explosive sound).. you know? i was like, boom (snaps fingers), that's it"

he's the michael winslow of scientology

"now is the TIME people"

New Yorkers oozing purple!!! oh man

I can't believe they really just looped the M:I themesong on the actual promo film

a glossary of terms found in the video. I didn't know a lot of these.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1579963/20080118/index.jhtml

i read last night that danny elfman is suing the co$ over them using the theme song without permission in this clip. i figured it would be lalo schifrin doing the suing, but whatever. good for danny.

also, chick corea WTF ;_;

a glossary of terms found in the video. I didn't know a lot of these.

Hehe, I figured my friend Jen would have written that, and she did.

There is a great part in Christiane F where she talks about being in some scino-run heroin rehab plant where the treatment was like them moving a football, she'd touch the football, they'd move it again, she'd touch it again, ad nauseum. Basically had nothing to do otherwise but 'confess' shit and read Hubbard's works, which she thought were "really interesting." Then it mentions Germany kicked them out a few years later and disallowed the program. Haha!

cruise movies i do enjoy:

MI3(M:I 1 to a lesser extent)
Collateral
Legend
Minority Report

amateurist wonderfully otm upthread regarding what makes Cruise's mannerisms so off-putting

didn't tom cruise have an experience growing up with an abusive step-parent or something? b/c if so that's obv. very sad plus one could see how it would leave him vulnerable to being at high-risk for being drawn in by a cult (among other factors, such as experiencing great fame and success at a young age)

I've been reading the OT III mythos (on Wikipedia) today, and I gotta say that I have a certain respect for L. Ron Hubbard for pulling off this massive science fiction tale as literal truth to one person, let alone however many Scientologists there are. Birth of a religion, eh?

didn't tom cruise have an experience growing up with an abusive step-parent or something? b/c if so that's obv. very sad plus one could see how it would leave him vulnerable to being at high-risk for being drawn in by a cult (among other factors, such as experiencing great fame and success at a young age)

yeah, there's def. a certain pathos there, but lately it's been overwhelmed by the sense that this man is potentially doing a lot of harm.

i'm not sure all this is an more unsettling than a lot of evangelical xtianity, but well, that's a familiar part of the american landscape, where as this is batshit looniness in all its fulsome newness.

just read the x3nu article on wikipedia. kind of mind-blowing. especially the detail about the origin of modern cinema design. you kind of have to read it yourself.

amateurist since Cruise's antics are pretty much universally met with ridicule I think he's probably not causing any harm.

This is hilarious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rundown_%28Scientology%29

The Super Power Rundown is described in the Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary as "a super fantastic, but confidential series of rundowns that can be done on anybody whether Dn Clear or not that puts the person into fantastic shape unleashing Super Power of a thetan. This means that puts Scientologists into a new realm of ability enabling them to create a new world."[7] The Super Power Building is currently under construction in Clearwater, Florida for the specific purpose of administering this rundown.

super fantastic, but confidential

just watched the orientation video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XJtUDcm3bBw

the end of the video has some amazing quotes

"you are at the threshold of your next trillion years. you will live it in shivering agonized darkness or you will live it in the triumphant light..."

"if you leave this room and never mention scientology again, you are perfectly free to do so. it would be stupid, but you can do it. you could also dive off a bridge or blow your brains out. that is your choice" !!!!

also lmao@ testimonials by isaac hayes and kirstie alley ("without scientology i would be dead!")

they're just as much a corporation as they are a religion. all the books and courses they make you pay for. they say they admit everyone but obv. poor people aren't wanted. there's a part in this vid where they say that occasionally if someone doesn't have money, they sometimes are able to assign a student auditor to work with them.

had no idea will smith had joined their ranks lol

had no idea will smith had joined their ranks lol

Whoa, really? Man, that's damn depressing...but then again I remember reading somewhere that he and Cruise were buds. Oh well!

For a long time, Smith has denied joining the Church of Scientology with his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith, explaining that it would go against the beliefs of his late grandmother. But for some time, insiders in Hollywood have insisted the Smiths were, indeed, brought in by Cruise.Smith concedes that his kids are being home-schooled, just as are those of Cruise, Travolta and other Scientologists.

In the article, Smith refers to “Thetans,” who are space aliens in the vernacular of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

“… in all of the experiences I’ve had with Tom and Scientology, like 98 percent of the principles are identical to the principles of the Bible,” Smith tells Men’s Vogue writer Hudson Morgan.