Sisters of Mercy - Classic or Dud

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"Temple of Love" is fucking fierce. (The original, not the '92 mix.)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, a person can say what they like about the Sisters, but I'd like to understand why "Temple Of Love" sounds twice as worse now than it did at the time. That song was so incredibly cool when I first heard it and now...oh my god. It smells.

You've gone deaf.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone has an opinion on James Ray? I've only heard bits and pieces but it sounds very Gift-ish.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 07:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Emma is a Hot Chocolate cover, yeah, or have I been on the crack again? I can't imagine HC doing it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes it is

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man.....another batch of freakin' re-issues I'm gonna have to buy. Fuck!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I found First And Last And Always and Floodland in the shop here in Belgium today. (They didn't have Vision Thing)

Very nicely reissued, cardboard foldy things with booklets, two nice articles by Michael Bonner (Uncut Magazine) - there's some stuff in there I didn't know (and I've been quite a sisters freak way back when, so I'm impressed), lyrics to Floodland, not to F&L&A.

How do they sound?
Well, F&L&A is the vinyl mix that was on the original LP, nice & clear mix, and Floodland, well, I don't know, Baaderonix was right, there isn't much they can do with this. It sounds a little louder in places, perhaps (the choir intro to This Corrosion?), but it's not very clear what happened.

Listen for yourself:
http://rapidshare.com/files/1842737/blackplanet_dominion_comparisons.zip.html

This is a zip file with 4 256kbps (LAME CBR) mp3 files. They are:
blackplanet_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1988 CD edition
blackplanet_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissue
dominion_original.mp3 = the first minute of the 1987 CD edition
dominion_remastered.mp3 = the first minute of the 2006 reissue

Ripped with EAC, no normalization or anything else.

Oh, the bonus tracks rule. I always forget how much I like the full Never Land because it's on a shitty old tape somewhere and I hardly listen to tapes anymore.

(it's for educational purposes and it's only the first minute - if this is still illegal, please delete & accept my apologies)

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the full Neverland instrumental or does it have the lyrics?

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It has lyrics (and they're in the booklet). Full length = 11:59

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice...

I think Neverland is my fave SoM tune, despite its throwaway-ness. The image of Eldritch with his ticket to Syria, getting ready for a life on the run, is so vivid...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

BLOOD MONEY BITCHES

what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Who, me? Alright then.

20 seconds of Blood Money and 40 seconds of Emma (sounds amazing)

http://rapidshare.com/files/1855615/em_bm.zip.html

StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

there's this apocryphal story a bigger sisterhead than i once told me about AE only owning one record at some point in the 80s, while owning no record player. that record? "careless whisper." i guess he kept it on his mantle or something? which, to paraphrase, AE justified as follows: "when it's that good, you just gotta buy it."

also, whichever "flood"--1 or 2, can't remember--precedes "lucretia" on floodland doesn't get nearly enough love. sets "lucretia" up as well as "shooby-do" sets up "candy-o" ... as i make this association i suddenly apprehend that it's far from coincidental.

literalisp (literalisp), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Both Floods are fucking awesome. The hooks in Flood II never stop coming.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

also I like how the 1-minute FALAA clip sounds like they just vacuum-sucked the low mids out of everything.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 3 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The hooks in Flood II never stop coming.

Haha, yes. There's just this endless series of killer bridges...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Just listened to the remasters with headphones. FALAA just works a lot better in this mix, that's what everyone already said as soon as the overblown '92 edition was released and it's still true. Floodland also sounds better, can't explain how, it just does, everything's clearer somehow.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

On my way back from my morning stroll today, I picked up FALAA. Not sure if I'll get Floodland,but I'm tempted by Vision Thing. They didn't have it at the store though

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also I like how the 1-minute FALAA clip sounds like they just vacuum-sucked the low mids out of everything.

The whole remixed album is *interesting*.. Absolutely no mids - was it supposed to sound that way originally?? The "Black Planet" intro sounds as if coming out of a cheap car radio...

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That's how the LP sounded, yeah... Btw, I listened to the (old) Vision Thing cd again today, for the first time in probably ten years, and man I now hate that Robert Palmer/ZZ Top sound. Ribbons is ok, Something Fast and I Was Wrong I can tolerate, but the rest...

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 4 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ribbons is great and the title track, "When You Don't see Me", "I Was Wrong" and, hell, maybe even "More" are pretty awesome too.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Sunday, 5 November 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

'More' is totally awesome. Totally.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"...that YOU CAN GETTTT!"

I always thought that was a wonderfully bitter and spiteful way to end it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"More" is grbt but to be A BIT CONTROVERIAL I think Eldritch would have done better to record his stuff without Meat Loaf Dude ever getting involved (except maybe "Dominion")

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

controversial, natch

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I got me the Vision Thing reissue yesterday (haven't had the chance to listen to it, I don't expect a big sonic difference). It was just as cheap as the other two (about €11.50), but er... the spine says VISIOIN THING :-(

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh boy. The FALAA spine says FIRST ANDLAST AND ALWAYS.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 16 November 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

DOMINION

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Absolute, undeniable classic.

Jeff Treppel, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I feel like a bad goth for skipping over "This Corrosion" when I listen to Floodland

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Listening to your show right now, Curtis - "Dark Entries" is a great name for it/opener. Makes the hair on my arms stand on end, that song.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

please excuse my fucked-up-ness on the mic, I was completely out of it

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh who cares man, to have someone play ME an old Red Lorry Yellow Lorry track is enough. I'm just humbled about that. Makes me feel like I did when I heard some college radio station in St. Louis played an old Fall track, and it just made me feel like royalty, so privileged. Not me playing it someone ELSE but someone actually playing it to ME. No, this is fantastic, Curtis, please don't apologize.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, and old Sisters of Mercy is next! Why this is just fine, fine stuff, I say.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't remember which (witch) Sisters song this is, but it's definitely one of my favourites from their early material. "In the violent house/in the violent sound/going round and around and around..." "slow...slow...quick quick slow...see those babies go go go go go!"
Yeah I'll have to figure out which one that is later.

Now you're playing Siouxsie. There's a Siouxsie song I've been thinking of lately that I've been trying to identify. I must write that down. It's something off Join Hands. Not Hong Kong Garden, something else.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link

it's really, really fun to try to sing like andrew eldritch, in case anyone didn't already know.

andi, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Bimble:

That song is "Floorshow". It's on "Some Girls Wander by Mistake"

And I think it's actually "See those <B>pagans</b> go go go go go!"... which makes it even better in my opinion.

novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Sisters of Mercy = total classic. Even "Vision Thing" has got some great material on it, despite being the weakest of their main albums.

novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes! Even better if the lyric is "see those Pagans go go go go go!"

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yr goth show was totally awesome Curtis :D I hope you do end up getting the regular slot!

Trayce, Sunday, 1 July 2007 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

That song is "Floorshow". It's on "Some Girls Wander by Mistake"

showing my age... I think of it as being on the 12" of 'Alice'.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 1 July 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, yeah.

novaheat, Sunday, 1 July 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Curtis - do you need me to bombard the powers at be with emails or something? I could pretend to be different people by switching email addresses. Or I'd even call them on the phone. Let me know what I need to do.

I used to have all the old Sisters records, but haven't had them in a long time now. Don't feel a need to have them again, but it's nice to hear something from those every once in a while.

Bimble, Sunday, 1 July 2007 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Will they release an album before GnR?

baaderonixx, Sunday, 1 July 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone else heard "You Could Be the One?" One of my favorite b-sides of all time. Just a hilarious kiss off, and catchy to boot.

Jeff Treppel, Monday, 2 July 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Yea, "You Could be the One" is great. It actually sounds like a GnR tune.

baaderonixx, Monday, 2 July 2007 08:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone like the new (well, once new) material played live but never released? "Crash and Burn", "We are the Same Suzanne" and "War on Drugs" are favourites of mine.

mayhaps, Monday, 2 July 2007 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually kind of liked that "Screw Shareholder Value..." album that he "released" on the internet a few years ago to get out of his record contract.

There's something vaguely threatening about Andrew Eldritch reciting in monotone the dimensions of an aircraft over bland techno music with the drum tracks removed.

novaheat, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed on "You Could Be the One" -- it wouldn't have fit in on Vision Thing but it's a fine little one-off.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

"Flower children never bore me..."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link


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