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Still hard for me to differentiate between Neko and Kathryn when they're in the background.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i like kathryn's voice a lot.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 22 April 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Loving the sorta title track! Already much better overall than Challengers, their worst. Vocals more out front. Quirkier structurally than anything previous. A touch too stately (though not as sleepy as Challengers). But still a good show so far. Mr. says it sounds like Liz Phair (which means late Liz Phair)...

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 22 April 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG! You heard it here first: "Your Hands (Together)" is the power pop "Paranoid."

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 22 April 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i like kathryn's voice a lot.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:35 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Have you heard her other band, Immaculate Machine?

salsa shark, Thursday, 22 April 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

no. i mean, i knew she was in another band, but i've never heard them. are they good?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 23 April 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

they're not that great.

tylerw, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i like her overall contribution to the band, btw. she seems so happy to be there. newman seems that way, too. their enthusiasm is infectious.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 23 April 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

kathryn is awesome and v. cute obv

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

man, i love me some Twin Cinema

ksh, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

LOLz at you punks discussing the subtle production differences of their albums. This band is all about the songwriting, man! The best album = the one with the best songs.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

do not do not deny me, tonight i lost the deaaaaallllllll
do not do not deny me, my achilles' heeeeeeeeeeeeel

ksh, Friday, 23 April 2010 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link

emusic's early review has me excited for this disc:

Together, the fifth record from interstate pop consortium the New Pornographers, is a masterpiece of construction, each little filigree, each rush of guitar, each organ speck perfectly placed. It’s drum-tight, and as effortless in its expertise as an Olympian.

Which is another way of saying that all A.C. Newman really wants is to be our Jeff Lynne, and Together makes the strongest case in years that he’s up to the task. Waking up after the long nap that was 2007’s Challengers, Together finds Newman & Co. muscling up and catapulting hooks over the high walls of the heart with more volume and determination than ever. Challengers had a boxer on the cover — Together has one in the songs. Like Lynne, who once lamented that his paradise was fading “like the Beatles in ‘Hey Jude,’” Newman understands the world in terms of pop music, and all energies are focused toward the artful — and, at times, elaborate — construction of the same. His songs are like ships in a bottle: You stand back and admire the craftsmanship and accept the fact that you’re never going to get close to them. If there’s any emotional resonance, it’s been walled up behind obtuse phrase-turns like “Valkyrie, don’t go home/ It’s not right, leave with the lights up.” He even manages to get Neko Case and Dan Bejar, two of the most beguiling and inventive lyricists working today, to shelve their predilections and indulge in a game of hide-the-gravitas. The unexpected upside is that when the players do drop their guard, the results are genuinely startling. Hearing Case sadly refer to an ex-lover as “a tall glass of blast from the past” or lament “What’s love, but what turns up in the dark” is deep-down moving — the rare moment where the clown starts sweating off his makeup and you can see the patch of actual flesh beneath.

But let’s not get too carried away: Looking for meaning is beside the point. The playing’s the thing, and Together is crammed with masterful performances. On the whole, it’s gutsier than the group has sounded in eons, brimming with confidence and swagger. To further cement those ELO comparisons, it also finds the band betraying a greater fondness for ornate string arrangements. Most of the songs are gussied up with pirouetting violins and divebombing cellos, giving them a kind of butter cream elegance. “The Crash Years,” which takes its place near the top of the list of Best New Pornographers Songs of All Time, pits low strings against Case’s stratospheric red-orange wail, working up to a wide-open chorus. The Bejar-belted “Silver Jenny Dollar” sounds like sudden realization, its exclamation-point guitars pogo-sticking around the foreground as Bejar coos the obtuse lyric “they holler Silver Jenny Dollar” with cool detachment. “Someone Took a Bite Out of My Bed” is nothing but blazing sun, and “Daughters of Sorrow” turns Bejar and Case into a bizarro world Donny Hathaway and Roberta Flack, trading plasticine R&B verses as Kathryn Calder bongs like a bell behind them. As if the group wasn’t already star-studded, Newman has rounded out the ensemble with a supporting cast of indie rock all-stars: Okkervil River’s Will Sheff lends vocals to the churning opener “The Moves,” Annie Clark’s guitar chug-a-chugs on the chorus of the wistful “My Shepherd,” Zach Condon of Beirut blasts a bright trumpet on “A Bite Out of my Bed” and the Dap-Kings act as the group’s own personal JB’s throughout. Unsurprisingly, the guests never upstage — everyone here is acting in service of the song.

The record’s title may or may not be a reference to the group’s ostensibly troubled internal dynamics — the reportage of which is the kind of thing that passes for salacious gossip in indie rockdom — but it also serves as a signpost of what’s in store. The Pornographers sound more focused and unified and impenetrable than ever, and the record is a testament to the sheer brute force they’re capable of when all cylinders are firing at once. To quote Newman himself, “I must have brought the weather back with me/ soaked us till we’re see-through and dripping.”

Whatever it is that means.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 25 April 2010 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

This one is a grower, my impression. I almost feel like BUYING this record.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 25 April 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

NPR is now streaming the disc.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

this album brings the goods. it is not the sleepier -- albeit still greatly underrated -- challengers. it's much closer to "rock" than "power-pop." as mentioned upthread, the attention-grabbing drum patterns and fills are back. the harmonies sour much higher than on the last disc. the hooks are sharper. it sags a little after a very strong four-song opening, but then again -- at least for me -- all the band's discs have a weak stretch in them. but it doesn't do much to dim the overall strength of the disc. this is a very, very good disc.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 26 April 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

excited!

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not usually a fan of the bejar songs on the new pornographers' discs, but i love love love his if you can't see my mirrors from the new disc.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

On initial listens, this album sounds superb. The first six songs at least - yowza!

Freedom, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Album is typically, if kinda soullessly, fantastic. Consistent, diligent, and immaculate.

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

okay, but no more or less soulless than their other discs, right?

i don't think i'd ever describe the band as soulful. just not that kind of act.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

(i wouldn't describe, say, elo as soulful either, and i love elo (and the new pornographers' new disc reminds me of elo in some ways)).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

okay, but no more or less soulless than their other discs, right?

i don't think i'd ever describe the band as soulful. just not that kind of act.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:10 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, same old. Typical TNP album. I'm not at all complaining.

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

This record sounds good, just like all of their releases do. By this point, they have enough to fill an absolutely killer greatest hits record.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

this is out today

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it sure is. my wife bought it and she says it's great! so there's one review for you. i haven't listened yet.

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha -- i like your wife's review! the album's only $6.99 'round here, so i'm considering getting it later

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

$6.99 are you out of your mind?!?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

(j/k)

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Newbury Comics for the win

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

new BSS was $8.99, Hold Steady was the same i think

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Wish I had a Newbury Comics around here! I only paid $7.99 for this, but nobody had the new BSS.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, Newbury Comics is really good about stocking the big indie records -- they're always really cheap too, especially if they know they'll sell a lot. last year's Built To Spill record was $6.99 too

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

but, like, the new Deftones was $13.99 or $14.99 or some shit, but i don't know how much control NC has over that

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Matthew Perpetua is the most boring of all Pitchfork writers, I think. I never get the feeling that he's moved by music, or maybe he's just not talented enough as a writer to get that down into words. His writing is just a cold, hard retelling of what happened where, who did what, and how this compares to other output by [insert artist name here]. "Aside from 'Valkyrie', Together is a solid collection of well-crafted songs," he writes. "However, in spite of the quality, the album isn't entirely satisfying." Zzzzzz.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14195-together/

Position Position, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Very annoying and trollish review by Chris Roberts in this month's Uncut. He says NP fanatics perversely deny themselves the pleasure of listening to less fashionable acts who "do this sort of thing better". I'd like to know who the hell exactly is writing songs better than "Sweet Talk, Sweet Talk". Jerk. ;-)

Freedom, Thursday, 6 May 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i disagree with perpetua's overall view of the disc, but i thought he raised some interesting points (e.g., the contrast between case's "powerhouse voice" and Calder's "delicate, princessy" voice). the disc has received pretty good reviews overall, but the criticisms i've read seem to come down to the lack of explosiveness of the choruses, especially the vocal harmonies. some people -- understandably -- expect and cherish the jet propulsion feel of early new-pornographer choruses, especially the sharply rising tone of the vocal harmonies. on some of the early songs in this new disc, i felt like the platform was constructed for that type of harmony in the chorus, but the vocals didn't "take off" that way. but then i listened again, and began appreciating the heavier, more rock-oriented bottom to the sound. and as i hit the midsection of the album, i did find those big choruses, just in places i wasn't expecting, e.g., If You Can't See My Mirrors, My Sheppard, and Sweet Talk.

anyway, loving this disc a lot.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 6 May 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

some people -- understandably -- expect and cherish the jet propulsion feel of early new-pornographer choruses,

I hadn't pieced this together to articulate it, but this is totally my issue.

Becky Facelift, Thursday, 6 May 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, now that you all mention it, it seems to me that on most of the songs on this album, the verse melody is the crux. I don't see why this is bad thing.

Freedom, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

is *a* bad thing, even.

Freedom, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I disliked "Crash Years" and am hesitant to buy this because as I get older I'm losing my taste, I've noticed, for this kind of power pop.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

On 1st listen this album starts off super-well then tails off noticeably toward the middle, and the less said about the end the better.

*reserves right to pull super-180 if necessary*

Bashful Johnny C. (staggerlee), Friday, 7 May 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

and i kind of feel the opposite, where the middle is my favorite part. that may be because i've played-out the first four songs already.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 May 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Surprisingly good stuff. Feel like they have regained much of the songwriting spirit of the earlier albums, but with a production spirit that makes it feel more of a "finished" pop album.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 7 May 2010 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ehhh so this is really a bit of a snooze isn't it

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2010 12:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the first six songs are as good a run as they've had on any album - melodically and texturally an emphatically brilliant group of songs - but that the second half is a good bit below that standard. And I will reiterate that "Sweet Talk, Sweet Talk" is sensational.

Freedom, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

what's happening to indie rock? the new BSS is more than "a bit of a snooze"

http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

all these bands are getting old is what's happening

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

sweet talk and up in the dark are the only two i was really feeling on the first listen.

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't get the sense that newman really wants to write for this band anymore--on his solo records he doesn't feel the need to overarrange everything and the compositions on get guilty were way the hell more interesting than anything here

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 May 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link


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