FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

I can guarantee nobody on ILM will have heard more than, say, 2/3 of them

Hell, I'm ALREADY batting at about .666

haha you shd have included the 2nd

however seeing the scores thus far you can be forgiven

Glad to see Peng! in here. Even although I didn't vote for it.

Shit, how'd I miss this :(

I guess there wasn't enough badgering. See, LJ?!!!

Hmmm, yeah, this is the first I've heard of this poll.

(Not sure I would've voted, anyway, just saying.)

Interesting beginning. The only one I haven't heard is the Mark Eitzel, but I've never warmed to his voice. I still own most of the rest, and the Pharcyde and De La albums were late cuts from my ballot. Nothing I've voted for so far - I don't have high hopes for more than 2 or 3 out of 10 placing at all.

There wasn't an actual nomination process, which may be why lots of people missed it. You just voted for whatever you wanted to, splitting up 200 points, and not including any titles that appeared on the original 1990s album poll.

ALL-NEW FREEFORM (SORTA) 1990s ALBUMS POLL: THE BANNS -- ALL OVER BAR THE SUPPLICATING :)

This has been a really good list so far. Some good unexpected choices and some I want to check out.

I can only imagine it will get much more niche/personalized from this point on.

90 UGK - Ridin' Dirty (1996)
34 points
4 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: The Reverend

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1l/5W/4AE4xI2D/ugk-ridin-dirty.jpg

I like Super Tight more overall, but this record starts with one of the best four-song stretches ever

― otto günne (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 07:11 (2 months ago)

agreed

― average dump from average gangsters (deej), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 10:47 (2 months ago)

They see me rollin
They hatin
Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
My music so loud
I'm swangin
They hopin that they gon catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty

Police think they can see me lean
I'm tint so it ain't easy to be seen
When you see me ride by they can see the glean
And my shine on the deck and the TV screen
Ride with a new chick, she like hold up
Next to the playstation controller is a full clip and my pistola
Turn a jacker into a coma
Girl you ain't know, I'm crazy like Krayzie Bone
Just tryin to bone ain't tryin to have no babies
Rock clean itself so I pull in ladies
Laws of patrolling you know they hate me
Music turned all the way up until the maximum
I can speak for some niggas tryin to jack for some
But we packin somethin that we have and um will have a nigga locked up in the maximum
Security cell, I'm grippin oak
Music loud and tippin slow
Twist and twistin like hit this dough
Pull up from behind and is in his throat
Windows down gotta stop pollution
CDs change niggas like who is that producing?
This the Play-N-Skillz when we out and cruisin
Got warrants in every city except Houston but I'm still ain't losin

I been drinkin and smokin holdin shit cause a brother can't focus
I gotta get to home 'fore the po po's scope this big ol Excursion swerving all up in the curve man
Nigga been sippin on that Hennessey and the gin again is in again we in the wind
Doin a hundred while I puff on the blunt
And rollin another one up, we livin like we ain't givin a fuck
I got a revolver in my right hand, 40 oz on my lap freezing my balls
Roll a nigga tree, green leaves and all
Comin pretty deep, me and my do-jo
I gotta get back to backstreets
Wanted by the six pound and I got heat glock glock shots to the block we creep creep
Pop Pop hope cops don't see me, on a low key
With no regards for the law we dodge em like fuck em all
But I won't get caught up and brought up on charges for none of y'all
Keep a gun in car, and a blunt to spark, but well if you want, nigga you poppin dark
Ready or not we bust shots off in the air Krayzie Bone and Chamillionaire

Do what you thinkin so, I tried to let you go
Turn up a blink of light and I swang it slower
A nigga upset for sure cause they think they know that they catchin me with plenty of the drink and dro
So they get behind me tryin to check my tags, look at my rearview and they smilin
Thinkin they'll catch me on the wrong well keep tryin
Cause they denyin is racial profiling
Houston, TX you can check my tags
Pull me over try to check my slab
Glove compartment gotta get my cash
Cause the crooked cops try to come up fast
And been a baller that I am I talk to them, giving a damn bout not feeling my attitude
When they realize I ain't even ridin dirty bet you'll be leavin with an even madder mood
I'mma laugh at you then I'mma have to cruise I'm in number two on some more DJ Screw
You can't arrest me plus you can't sue
This a message to the laws tellin them WE HATE YOU
I can't be touched or tell 'em that they shoulda known
Tippin' down, sittin' crooked on my chrome
Bookin' my phone, tryin' to find a chick I wanna bone
Like they couldn't stop me I'mma 'bout to pull up at your home and it's on

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 10:11 (2 years ago)

^I'd be interested in checking that out because I adored International Players Anthem and they completely out-rap Jay-Z on Big Pimpin'. It's not on spotify though..

was pleased to see Bjork's "Debut" there; can't believe so many great albums didn't make the original list!

dude make a separate results thread plz

hahaha oh nevermind duh me

A separate results thread from the results thread?

89 Grifters - Crappin' You Negative
35 points
1 vote
1 first-place vote
Contributor: drench

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Grifters_Crappin%27_You_Negative_CD_cover.jpg

I always thought that Crappin You Negative and Eureka were better than anything Sebadoh or Pavement ever did (except maybe Slanted/Enchanted is as good). At least for me, they were my favorite band of that time.

My first experience of The Grifters was seeing them open for Fugazi on freaking hot race day in Indianapolis a couple of months before Crappin You Negative came out. One of the best shows I ever saw, it was in this old run down theatre and it was so damn hot you could see clouds of steam rise from the crowd, when you were at the back.

I saw them a couple of years later in Lexington after Ain't My Lookout came out in a small club. Another good show. The drummer was so loose and could drive the band where he wanted.

I think getting all of the side projects and the fact that they were together for so long before anything really started to happen for them hastened their departure. There are some good songs on the frist Those Bastards... record that would probably have been even better as The Grifters with some live dynamics and not just tracked together.

On another note, I was always impressed with the sound of Crappin You Negative and Eureka for being pretty good for being done quite a bit with 4 tracks.

― earlnash, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (7 years ago)

Crappin You Negative and Eureka E.P. are two of my all-time favorites.

Piddlebach is the coolest fucking song ever recorded.

I am done here.

― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke)

with the D tuning try making this chord.

it'a just a thre--fingered chord, all in the same fret.

if it's like this

1
2
3
4
5
6

then on the same fret hold down 1, 2, and 4
and slide that baby around the neck some.

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if you hit a sour chord just slide whichever finger you have on the 4th string and slide it down one fret.

------*------
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this is like, a zillion grifters songs.

― Tripp (trippl)

Trippster

get Dragoon to the Hull Adelphi or even the Lincoln Imp in Scunthorpe and I'll play Grifteroke.

Are you insured?

Long live Grifters.

Fuck you doubters.

― Fer Ark, Friday, 27 June 2008 19:32 (1 year ago)

Crappin You Negative is A++ scuzz, sounds like a rock band should.

― The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Monday, 19 April 2010 04:01 (1 week ago)

Grifters: C er D?

did my votes get counted? I don't remember

oh man grifters...sheet that's a good un

this is kinda weird cause i was just talking to a co-worker of mine about that Hull show this afternoon I swear to god.
Told him how I made the classic american blunder...

our FIRST show overseas was in Hull, England. We flew into london, went and rented our equipment, stopped at a truck stop and had mushy peas and gravy then hit the road for the 5 or so hour drive to Hull.
So we were pretty zapped. When we finally pulled into the verdant paradise that is Hull (wink) I went right to the bar and got a beer. the big lug that ran the place and apparently lived upstairs (?) gave me a nice big pint and I took a sip and said 'Whoa man, I think your refrigeration unit is out or somethin;...'

So he loved me, I'm sure.

that was also the night whassisname came to the show and wrote about it. ... ...... god what was his name......
Everett True!

I remember my bass fell off me during our set and the head of he bass landed on my beer glass. But I caught it by the strap so it didn't fully hit the floor, the head just hit the pint glass with a 'tong' sound and a big triangular piece of glass broke off and landed in the glass. Since it was my last beer (fuckin' drink tickets!) I picked it up, pulled out the shard of glass and finished it off from the unbroken side.

hey. I've done grosser shit, believe me.

Btut Everett romanticized that moment in his article like it was some great punk rock moment. Really, I'm just a clumsy drunk.

― Tripp lamkins (trippl), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:38 (3 years ago)

^^^ XDDDDDD will definitely listen to this band now

(also, Shakey Mo, they did indeed! you may rest easy)

I'm thinking Crappin' You Negative is probably an album I'd appreciate more now than I did in 1994. Gonna go back and re-evaluate.

88 The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I (1999)
35 points
3 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: sofatruck

http://www.merryswankster.com/images/Dismemberment.jpg

TDP, and "Emergency & I" in particular, is one of those things I just can't talk about rationally. To cop a well-worn phrase, not liking them is like not liking the sun. Of course I feel that way about the Beatles so consider the source.

― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (8 years ago)

as much as i enjoy them, I have to concede that they're certainly an acquired taste (like anything of worth, in my opinion). their quality is not an absolute, even to fans of the type of music they play, however you choose to define it. There are days when it sounds as paper thin to me as it must to those who dismiss the hype, so i definitely sympathize. But one thing that's hard to take issue with is that they're good at what they do, which I think is pretty rare, really. And if you want to see effort and ambition as overearnestness, so be it.

as for the 'classic' issue, that's a thorny word to throw around, but i can only speak for myself that I already know that these are some records and shows that i'll look back on fondly in the years to come. as for "Change", i already love most of the songs from hearing them live, but have my dooubts as to whether it'll continue to step up their hype momentum. it's kind of one of those records that's too low-key (by their standards) to really maintain the excitement they've been generating lately, but it'll probably still be their biggest yet, although i think E&I will remain the most effective (and most flattering) introduct

― al, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (8 years ago)

If Louis's reading this I think he'll love the last two D Plan albums.

― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 5 March 2007 16:36 (3 years ago)

yeah, the Dismemberment Plan are awesome. Emergency & I is one of my top albums of the last 10 years, no questions.

― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 06:50 (4 years ago)

TDP kicks much. Such inventiveness, such style.
Classsssssssssic.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 13 March 2003 07:47 (7 years ago)

did you love the last two D-Plan albums??

never really listened to them

but I do have them

Change never worked for me...but E&I has some absolutely killer songs. A scarred and charred Weezer. Definitely give it a good go.

good choice

I can't listen to D-Plan. Travis and I didn't get along way back when, and I can't get past the memories.

That's al-legedly some dude's first-ever ILX post, in that round-up there

http://www.merryswankster.com/images/Dismemberment.jpg

^^^jesus I wouldn't listen to anything that came in such a godawful eyesore of a package. wtf

87 The Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen (1993)
35 points
4 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: Ismael Klata

http://www.terapija.net/fotke/portret/20061120_103938_3.jpg

Of course not liking the album is a subjective choice but it's always been classic in my book.The single best bad relationship album ever.I pretty much love everything about the album from the lyrics to the slide guitar sound to the song order & of course female perspective on "My Curse".
I always thought Black Love was an attempt to recreate this one on a grander scale only Dulli seemed like he was just playing the bad ass.Gentlemen seemed to come from his heart.
Of course if you don't like Dulli's voice you're out of luck.God knows it's an acquired taste.Always seems like he's straining to stay in tune.Combined with the woozy slide sound it takes some getting used to.And yeah the lyrics are great.

― evan chronister (evan chronister), Monday, 11 April 2005 04:49 (5 years ago)

o fuck like rickey said if yr lumping it in with sebodah yr looking for shit that aint there. its a big arrogant MALE record - rawk! - that falters and reveals itself as self centred arrogant nasty precious crude preening. dulli is a prick - in the lacanian sense.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 11 April 2005 06:46 (5 years ago)

oh god. wounded animal record. best relationship/breakup album ever. frighteningly un self- edited. it's all out there, or in here. dulli's voice is awesome. "i've go a dick for a brain / and my brain is gonna sell my ass to you".

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:40 (5 years ago)

When I got rid of my albums to devote myself to songs, Gentlemen was one of the four I couldn't bear to let go. That said, I've never quite been totally convinced of its greatness - it somehow feels just a little bit too unrelenting in its grittiness. Torn between 'My Curse' and 'Brother Woodrow', but it's hard not to vote for the title track

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 12:54 (10 months ago)

this album's sound and U2 have some things in common

― Zeno, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:20 (10 months ago)

I can only imagine it will get much more niche/personalized from this point on.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, April 26, 2010 6:19 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't understand. don't you think there'll be more albums with more than 3 or 4 voters the further we go up? i mean even if a large number of voters gave one album the majority of their points those records would still make up just a small portion of the top 100.

lmao @ lj quoting Chamillionaire's "Ridin'" as a blurb for UGK's Ridin' Dirty. glad my 8 points helped that one make the cut.

haha yeah that is my first post!

lmao @ lj quoting Chamillionaire's "Ridin'" as a blurb for UGK's Ridin' Dirty

my face is a million sadnesses

some dude's voting patterns have borne fruit, what can I say?

i don't understand. don't you think there'll be more albums with more than 3 or 4 voters the further we go up? i mean even if a large number of voters gave one album the majority of their points those records would still make up just a small portion of the top 100.

I'm thinking people's #1 votes will start showing up with one or two backing votes (or, if enough points were allotted, NO backing votes). Seeing people's pet favorites will surely be interesting. My own #1 vote wasn't something I'd normally include in such a list, but I wanted to ensure it placed.

another one from my list makes it

85= Neil Young - Harvest Moon
36 points
2 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: Captain Ahab

http://www.theartwolf.com/imagenestAW/Neil_Young_Harvest_Moon.jpg

also half of Harvest Moon bores me to tears

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:35 (5 years ago)

Harvest Moon is pretty boring.

― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:36 (5 months ago)

yeah Harvest Moon is like 50% of a good record

― squarefair (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:48 (5 months ago)

sometimes, Neil Young. esp. the Harvest Moon album which I like a lot for reasons I don't fully understand.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 14 June 2004 22:37 (5 years ago)

I voted Harvest Moon. I love that record & I have a very particular history with it.

― Mark, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 03:38 (5 months ago)

Harvest Moon is pretty boring.

― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 00:36 (5 months ago)

Soto in complete correctness shocka.

88 The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I (1999)
35 points
3 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: sofatruck Pitchfork

I dunno, Pitchfork was hardly the tastemaking monolith in 1999 that it is 11 years later.

It was just one of the hundreds of indie rock review sites that rose above the others by shelling out the cash for its own domain name.

Ha. Pretty true really. I can't seem to find my ballot, but I basically picked 10 or 12 albums off the top of my head and gave them equal points. I did hear about this one from pfork... no regrets, still love this album.

I did hear about this one from pfork...

I bet this is the case for most people who jumped on board at E&I.

85= Biosphere - Substrata
36 points
2 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: ciderpress

http://dezji.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/substrata.jpg

I was really hoping there'd be like 500 votes for this poll

― rockapads, Monday, 16 June 2008 23:31 (1 year ago)

substrata is great!

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 20 February 2004 12:38 (6 years ago)

i find people describe a lot of albums as beatless when they aren't really, but substrata seemed to quite genuinely fit the description.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 20 February 2004 12:50 (6 years ago)

Biosphere's "Substrata" is as arctic as it gets. And his "Polar Sequences" too...

― Siegbran Hetteson, Friday, 19 July 2002 00:00 (7 years ago)

i gave a bunch of points to Biosphere - Substrata

i hope i'm not the only one...

― ciderpress, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:59 (1 month ago)

I don't even know what this is.

first one i don't have the slightest clue what it is. techno?

heh xpost

Wikipedia says ambient.

so quiet techno

about 90% of the ILX posts about it are by Ki11ian

and about 8% by Siegbran

although it transpires that cutty is a fan

I'm intrigued - lovely album-cover at least, and if it's in the same quality-bracket as Global Communication I'd be well up for hearing it