FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

my ballot was 100% american and 0% guitar rock btw ;-)

johnny, some savages are more disgusting than others

My ballot is roughly 20% British, 10% Canadian and 70% American, all prominently featuring guitars. OH NO I'VE BORED MYSELF!

Oh wait, one of the Britishes doesn't feature guitars of any kind. REDEEMED!

My ballot is 80% American, 10% British, and 10% Canadian. One of the American bands I wouldn't count as guitar rock, but it wasn't hiphop or trance or anything.

42% UK, 43% USA, 15% Other. 37% guitars.

I think i was thrown off by the title "Alternative" Album Poll, tbh.

Brit - 70%
Americ - 20%
Norway - 10%

Guitars - 60%

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It's like one of those "Who Should I Vote For" polls.

Stop arguing about guitars and tell long personal stories please!

I went for some sort of weird US/Germany/Japan/UK/Norway/Switzerland/New Zealand sandwich.

It's a long personal story.

Sanpaku = Derelict, right?

Correct.

Even if Anglophilia was a thing, it won't help any of the smaller and more awesome UK bands. And the idea that a couple of albums in the lower reaches of a not-very-heavily-voted-in poll disprove the shift is nutso.

On the other hand, I've just remembered one of the albums that I voted for is a goddamn CERT for the poll, so hopefully I won't be stuck with a lone representative here.

if u guys want i could get high and write what i remember about listening to giant steps for the first time

I simply want you to get high.

Please do! That would be great imo.

Get high... ...Get above yourself ...Look down upon yourself ...Until you're inside o' yourself ...Look to the front or the back o' yourself ...To the back or front of yourself ...It's inside yourself ...And then you see your own head ...And know yourself is yourself ...'cause when you find yourself ...You're gonna find that yourself is only yourself ...And the self that can only be yourself ...So when you're infront of the back of yourself ...You're gonna find that your mind is in the centre of yourself ...And God is nothing but yourself ...And when you reach for yourself ...You'll know that yourself ...Is the only thing ...That can happen to yourself ...So that nothing can put you down ...

dog latin- take it to the jazz d-bag thread and then i am all for it, coltrane was long dead by this poll?

seriously gonna have dog latin banned from the thread if he keeps talking about albums that *might* turn up later

i'm just excited, and haven't really heard that much from this poll yet.

I have a Matador compilation with a Burger/Ink track on. It's incredibly long and repetitive. Just like a 15 minute loop of the same mildly pleasant beat and melody. Is the rest like this?

the track is "do the strand"

- oh yeah, roxy music haha!

Noodle Vague makes a post about that song, about how it does nothing for 9 minutes yet is somehow brilliant

Note that my original argument wasn't that this poll is dominated only by American rock (though as far as I can tell, 14 of the 23 rock albums that have placed so far are American), rather than that the larger number of American posters means less techno/house/dance will make it in these polls than in the 2004 polls, because in the 90s Americans were less exposed to those genres than Europeans. The fact that Biosphere and Burger/Ink were the two acts here that got the most "never heard of that" reactions would suggest I'm right. Now, this isn't meant to be a qualitative judgement rather than a general observation. Of course Americans can still dig this sort of music if they discover it later on, but since a lot of the voting in these polls will be based on 90s nostalgia, it's kinda hard to be nostalgic for something you weren't aware of at the time.

The fact that Biosphere and Burger/Ink were the two acts here that got the most "never heard of that" reactions would suggest I'm right.

They're also the two acts I've instantly gone and listened to upon announcing their presence.

With you, it's just a matter of age, I think. You probably weren't listening to that sort of music back in 1997, or were you?

Heaven knows I wasn't listening to much of anything back then

the larger number of American posters means less techno/house/dance

prob means more rap tho

Yeah, I assume so. Though at the moment it doesn't look like this poll has more rap than the OG poll (also, no rnb albums so far, whereas the 2004 poll had 3 in the bottom 33), but we'll see.

93% USA, 3% UK, 3% Canadian. 68% guitars. yay i'm Tuomas's worst nightmare!

y'know Tuomas if the guy revealing the results says OVER AND OVER that you should wait and see the whole list before jumping to conclusions about what the rest will look like, maybe you should.

Looks like my ballot is 33% Germany, 30% USA, 25% UK, 3% Morocco, 3% Norway, 3% Japan, and 3% France. (I counted Björk's Debut as an UK album.) And 3% guitars.

It is sweet to think that DL is lighting up & reminiscing as we speak.

OG is 'original gangster' right? I really like it, is it just an ILX thing?

No, it's an at least as far back as 80s Ice T thing.

I think "OG" is originally LA street slang for an older, more established gangster who doesn't have to do stuff like stickups himself anymore, but instead he can get younger gangsters to do it for him.

But generally it just means someone who's older and been around longer.

20% British, 70% American, 10% Portuguese (including some dual residents of outre space). Whole lotta guitars - some loud, some not - even on the non-indie stuff.

I went for some sort of weird US/Germany/Japan/UK/Norway/Switzerland/New Zealand sandwich.

Good on you, Nick. This poll needs a Dead C album to turn up!

for my part, and i told louis this...

a couple of my rap votes got vetoed for placing on the actual poll (i didn't know that was a rule at first)

so...anyway the way i voted was basically i voted for the 90s as i listened to them THEN, not as i would now, if that makes sense.

i basically voted for the albums that i listened to the shit out of then.

tuomas:

it's so funny because i always associate your tastes in hip hop especially as being really stuck in the 90s, even more than mine so i think this whole line is pretty lol

I'm not sure if I get you... My taste in rap is indeed pretty 90s-centric, but I wasn't saying anything about rap in this poll, just about the rock/electronic music ratio. I'm happy if there'll be more rap in here than in the previous poll.

i dunno....i guess i felt like this poll was supposed to be super quirky and personal and weird resultswise, like it's not supposed to be some "defining" thing at all, so who cares if there's not enough X genre in it

there won't be so many today...i'm going out later + i have super-pressing work concerns :(

this will probably spill into next week, if that isn't too much of an issue

you savage

I don't think people should vote based on a quota for certain genres, but anyway, my ballot was 57% rock, 23% hip-hop, with the remaining 20% fairly evenly divided between jazz, electronic, classical, and other. Geographically, it was about 60% American, with the rest fairly evenly divided between UK, Scotland, New Zealand, Japan, Germany, and Sweden.

UK, Scotland

Are they the same? I dunno. They seem distinct in my mind.

Scotland is a part of the UK. If you want to differentiate between areas in the UK, you should've said England, Scotland.

Yeah, I guess I should have done that, but I'm not sure really which bands are English or Welsh, so I fudged it a bit by saying UK.

I think Tuomas has a valid point. My votes are 66% American, 33% Canadian, and 90% guitar based. But that is an accurate reflection of what I was exposed to in the 90s.

69= Sun City Girls - Torch Of The Mystics (1990)
39 points
2 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: NickB

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67= Sun City Girls - 330,003 Crossdressers From The Rig Veda
40 points
1 vote
1 first-place vote
Contributor: Jon Lewis

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Sun City Girls' best albums (which for my money are the inevitable _Torch of the Mystics_, plus _330,003 Crossdressers from Beyond the Rig-Veda_ and the long-out-of-print _Live from Planet Boomerang_) are completely mindblowing, completely unpredictable, like nothing else around. Their worst (_Midnight Cowboys from Ipanema_, _Jacks Creek_) are completely unlistenable--like, so bad it's hard to imagine how they finished making them. Most of their stuff is somewhere in between. I love how unpredictable they are, but then again I buy a lot more records than most sensible people do.

― Douglas Wolk, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (8 years ago)

torch of the mystics is great but 330,003 crossdressers is far better although much harder to locate. it turns up on ebay now and then and usually brings $30. its worth it. the band's output is highly uneven, they are damnably prolific, and their oop stuff impossible to locate or way expensive if you can locate it. all this makes being an impoverished fan a risky proposition. but torch and crossdressers are incredible you cant go wrong scoring those.

― , Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (8 years ago)

Best band of the last 25 years, imho.

― sleeve, Friday, 13 April 2007 22:12 (3 years ago)

330,003 crossdressers blows 'torch of the mystics' right out of the water, in my opinion. it's not as much a 'rock records' as 'torch,' of course.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 03:16 (7 years ago)

Sun City Girls: Torch of the Mystics (1990)

Weird poll, but this is a bazillion star album AFAIC.

― Gunther von Hagen Daas (NickB), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 11:07 (6 months ago)