FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

I only voted 1 record high enough to know it will absolutely make it in and was reasonable w/ my points elsewhere. But now I am starting to worry that if fucking Earl Brutus or whatever makes it in over [rap classic a] or [rap classic b] then ilx is fucked up and we need to make the rap listening club compulsory.

― tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, May 4, 2010 6:51 PM (6 minutes ago)

No need to take it out on Earl Brutus that record deserves its place.

yeah my bad, couldn't think of another record while being grouchy.

I remember hearing about the Straitjacket Fits. I've never heard their music, but's a pretty cool band name. I'd really like to hear Johnny Fever defend them.

― M. Loh, Tuesday, May 4, 2010 9:36 PM (2 hours ago)

Melt is about layers of guitar over somewhat straightforward songwriting, kind of like most dreampop at the time. However, Straitjacket Fits had a little bit of a taste for more ambitious structures and chord progressions. Nobody will ever prove it, but I think Thom Yorke and the Radiohead fellas listened to Melt quite a bit when they were working on their own first album. Anyway, it's a great album with some absolutely wonderful songs and great guitar playing that I have some pleasant memories attached to but also still love objectively to this day.

xpost Sorry I got a little defensive there as I really love that band.

I am starting to think some of the albums I thought would easily make it won't. My highest points were below the lowest album on this list, I'm lucky that three of my choices had a couple of other fans. Its frustrating but it's also making the list really unpredictable and interesting.

well i agree but grouchy

Anyway, WTF? I haven't bagged on anyone else's choices, so why does my (ONLY, so far) choice have to be justified? Eff you Ismael, Shakey, ilxor, Kitchen Person.

For the record, that fucking Slint record is garbage. I've always thought that. I wasn't going to point that out here, though, because it was a pretty light atmosphere before.

Listening to Six on spotify and....not really feeling it so far. Sounds like it warrants more than a cursory stream listen though.

Not looking forward to defending my no 1 oh dear

xp:

Yeah dude, I was kinda worried about the non keepin'-in-positive tone of the comments upthread. Plus, LJ encouraged me to represent for my somewhat-arcane choice that I awarded a ton of points to, so I figured you deserved the same fair treatment.

Anyway, WTF? I haven't bagged on anyone else's choices, so why does my (ONLY, so far) choice have to be justified? Eff you Ismael, Shakey, ilxor, Kitchen Person.

I wasn't yawning about your album (which I haven't heard), just the lack of any sort of interesting discussion or posting activity.

everyone will have a chance to pile on my albums, don't worry!

xpost to Johnny Fever: I'm sorry I didn't mean to attack your choice personally, there's been loads of records in this list that I have never heard of and yours was one of them. No need to justify your choice or the points you gave it.

For the record The Divine Comedy album that made the list was my first choice to appear and I think that's had the most negative comments so far.

i have to say...slint hasn't aged that well for me

― the Rob Based god (M@tt He1ges0n), den 4 maj 2010 19:15 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i feel the opposite. still think it's really original and idiosyncratic guitar music, but it's definitely possible i haven't heard what new stuff that's come along since then to make it sound dated

It's okay, everybody... hugs and kisses!!!

I'll take that elfing - just hadn't heard of it was all. I'd assumed the band was called Melt, actually, that'd've been very nineties-generic

Many invested their youth in shoegaze.
Many invested their youth in Britpop.
Many invested their youth in IDM.
Many invested their youth in Amerindie.
Many invested their youth in Trip-hop.

We've all been disappointed. Most of us grew up.

All I know of Straitjacket Fits is Hail. I like it though!

Was bummed that I forgot to vote for Julian Cope's Jehovahkill, so it's nice to see Peggy Suicide turn up.

I actually haven't been disappointed. I've found plenty of music to like in every single year since I left high school in 1992, though some years are definitely better than others, and some styles are definitely much longer-lasting than others. I guess I just place the music of my youth in beautiful and untouchable amber, while everything since then is still open to critical evaluation and positioning and could be thrown out of favor at any moment even while its enjoyed.

The music from your teen years will remain the best music ever for the rest of your life. Right or wrong?

We've all been disappointed. Most of us grew up.

into soulless ilm posters

lol I knew a hoy hoy would fucking hate Earl Brutus

as I get older I really don't listen to stuff that I was into 10 years earlier or whatever - I hardly listen to anything that was current when I was a teenager/in college, for ex. there are things I'm perenially fascinated by, but oddly they are more often than not things that came out either before I was born or when I was a young child and was oblivious to their existence (the Beatles, Zep, the Beach Boys, P-Funk, reggae, etc.)

there are some exceptions, some of which will appear in this poll haha

tbh I still do things like dig out old Wa Wa Nee cassettes and jam to them

Yeah, I'm often really taken with music that was created prior to me being born or was being made when I was far too young to be aware of its existence, but still I don't really pull it as close as the music I was listening to when I was first becoming a fan of the art. The Beatles had already been gone four years by the time I was born, and I love The Beatles, but I never get the same kind of rush listening to them as I do, say, the Pixies. I was there for the Pixies.

Well, Mansun went down like a lead balloon. Thank fuck we're not getting any more overambitious Britpop in this poll

35= Suede - Dog Man Star
62 points
4 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: Kitchen Person

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dog man star is one of the most powerful albums i've ever heard in my life. a must have for everyone.

― justin m, Saturday, 6 April 2002 01:00 (8 years ago)

I love the sound of "DogManStar" and I actually use it as a reference sometimes when I'm mixing my own music. It's really rich & powerful.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 22 December 2005 09:32 (4 years ago)

I'll still defend Dog Man Star against all you apostates.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 14 May 2006 13:37 (3 years ago)

dog man star is glorious, end of story. 'the power'. 'the wild ones'. 'we are the pigs'. 'asphalt world'. 'hollywood life'. classics, the lot of them. 'asphalt world' is one of the best songs i have ever heard played live. this record can't be touched, it was the peak af thair carreer and deep down inside, brett a. knows it...

― Jay K (Jay K), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:23 (6 years ago)

I seem to remember critics guffawing at 'Dog Man Star' after Suede's debut. 'Dog Man Star' was pretentious, overblown, didn't have very many catchy pop songs, and was excellent (in my opinion). Haven't liked Suede at all since.

― Vaughan, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (9 years ago)

Dog Man Star is a fucking great record. The best work either Bernard or Brett have ever done, with or without each other.

― electric sound of jim, Thursday, 4 April 2002 01:00 (8 years ago)

Jesus, you guys. Were you all on crack while you were voting?

Thank fuck we're not getting any more overambitious Britpop in this poll

I SEE WHAT U DID THERE

Only 6.5% of you guys were on crack.

I quite like about half the tracks on Dog Man Star. Four years ago I was fucking mental about the whole album.

I have owned this record for as long as I can remember and I never noticed it had an arse on the cover.

loooool

Anyone wanna defend overblown Britpop? Or stick the boot in further?

I'll defend Suede as far as saying I really, really liked their first record. And maybe one of the really late records after Bernard left, but I can never remember which one of them (the late ones) is which.

Shall we discuss it as one magnetic pole in a cultural dialectic?

Necessary, in the historical sense?

Anyone wanna defend overblown Britpop?

Geir to thread.

If bloated Britpop is really the worst thing in this poll then it's a massive success, imho.

Jesus, you guys. Were you all on crack while you were voting?

― emil.y, Tuesday, May 4, 2010 1:01 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

Here is where I apologize for not adding to the Nurse With Wound/Coil/The Ex/Boredoms/Dog Faced Hermans voting bloc.

yeah, I mainly just went for stuff that holds up well from my teenage obsessions and now my biggest regret is not awarding half of my points to Coil's Autumn Equinox. Oh well.

this was an album i bought as a teenager thinking from something id read that it was gonna b seedy and camp and sexxxy. it was none of those things.

Dog Man Star was my number one, it's one of my 10 favourite albums ever made.

Yes I voted for Mansun and Suede but I didn't just vote for overambitious Britpop I voted for plenty of other kinds of indie too.

I gave both of those about 20 pts iirc. What do you want me to say?

SAY SORRY

You may select lethal injection or lethal gas as your method of execution, iirc.

xp

it's ok fuck the haters, Mansun is stone fire and DMS is at the very least an enjoyable listen

peace

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I gave both of those about 20 pts iirc. What do you want me to say?

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, May 4, 2010 8:26 PM (3 minutes ago)

Hello, have we met?

SAY SORRY for not voting for The Charlatans instead! (j/k... though I wouldn't hate it if either Up to Our Hips or the s/t albums were to make surprise appearances.) xxxxp

:) @ that jpg

omg romance is in the air xp

Aww it's love at first post!

Found via GIS on "Justify My Love"