FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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*great* album-cover IMO

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

this band had an absolutely amazing design sense

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

am really loving the experience of trawling through the archives and discovering all these bitchin' (usually nabisco) posts that make everything just so much clearer

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

never seen that nabisco post before but he hits on a lot of things I love about this record - it is very refined, everything carefully sculpted and in its proper place, tying all kinds of disparate strands of art and music together. there's a certain New England art school coyness to the latter half of their career but it works so well to evoke this sci-fi springtime of teenage dreams - part Factory Records, part Krautrock, part punk, part Velvets/Byrdsian jangle. I never tire of this album.

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, I'll be sure to check it out! It sounds thoroughly intriguing.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I wasn't about when it was announced but can I say that Noyd's verse on Give Up The Goods (Just Step) is possibly the most exhilirating moment in the music the whole decade had? And this is on a record with Shook Ones ffs.

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TiuooWA5M

^^^marvel at the rhythm guitar playing here

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Unrest could also be pretty funny, in must be said

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

What's the story behind the lady on this album cover that isn't in the band?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

that is Cath Carroll, they wrote a song about her

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

photo is by Robert Mapplethorpe btw

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Were they friendly, or did they call her up out of the blue? I feel like there's a story here.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

she looks kinda androgynous in the best possible way. also faintly oriental.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure... Unrest was REALLY into the whole Factory Records thing, I think that's the connection.

They had also previously dedicated an EP to Depression-era social realist/feminist artist Isobel Bishop (and used several paintings of hers for sleeve designs).

ART STUDENTS!

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

24 Burzum - Filosofem (1996)
76 points
2 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: Captain Ahab

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Burzum "Filosofem" - first 30 minutes are monumental, second 30 are boring sub-Tangerine Dream noodling.

― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 29 January 2006 17:08 (4 years ago)

While I don't agree that Varg is an idiot, he has certainly done a ton of extremely retarded shit. Does this take one ounce of shine off Filosofem for me? Absolutely not.

― roxymuzak, Monday, 8 October 2007 05:07 (2 years ago)

I fucking sold Filosofem to a friend during an unload-everything-I-own flurry before I moved. Some of the biggest seller's regret I've had, though the rec is in deserving hands.

― producto do Brazil (╓abies), Monday, 3 August 2009 16:03 (9 months ago)

i'd go with filosofem, philip, and then maybe hvis lyset tar oss - but real black metal people seem to prefer the 1st two. filosofem is difficult due to the long ambient keyboard passages, but the good stuff is amazing. contains, "jesus tod", one of my favorite rock songs of any kind, ever. sounds like the munsters attempting to negotiate a mountain road, in the darkness, at 90 mph.

― contenderizer, Friday, 20 November 2009 04:27 (5 months ago)

Vikernes managed to turn every weakness into a strength:
- crap drummer: play only simple patterns without any fancy fills or variation
- crap guitarist: drown everything in fuzz and reverb, and record layers and layers of guitar lines until it all becomes a thick blur (esp. Filosofem)
- crap singer: only sing a one or two verses per song, write loooong songs and lots of instrumentals
- and finally: go MIDI and dump guitars, drums and vocals altogether

― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:47 (6 years ago)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Gonna post one more quickly; am going into town for a bit now. The last two later.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

The reason I'm posting another one quickly is that Shakey Mo is HERE AND ON HEAT.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

(lol spoiler)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

23 Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R. (1992)
79 points
2 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: Shakey Mo Collier

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Unrest are genius, mostly. I don't particularly like much of what they did pre-Imperial (there's some occasionally great moments) but Imperial is a godlike record, one of the few records I can still listen to and adore ten years after I first heard it. "Suki", "Isabel", "Skinhead Girl" are dead-set classics round my way. Perfect Teeth is great too, but not quite as jaw- dropping. "Cath Carroll" gets major points for featuring a Factory catalogue number in the lyrics, too.

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (8 years ago)

Listening to Imperial F.F.R.R. for the first time in forever (nice remastered LP reissue). Might like it better now than I did then, and that's saying a lot. A lot a lot a lot a lot. Especially digging the more abstract tracks that seemed so much less immediately appealing when I first heard it. Best semi-unheralded U.S. indie rock LP of the early 90s? I dunno. How much competition is there? More than anything, I like how of its time and genre it sounds without sounding like anything else out there. It presents itself superficially as this casually scruffy, almost tossed-off object, very much in the style of the moment, but the arrangement and sequencing are incredibly well integrated. is It doesn't "break barriers" or invent a whole new pop aesthetic, but it hums along with this oddly propulsive slackness and hits it out of the park song after song after song. I can see why some might be annoyed by the sentimental directness of "Isabel", but it's short and sweet enough for me to accept without qualms. In fact, Isabel's only deficiency is its tendency to be held up as the album's avatar (when Imperial & Loyola obviously deserve that honor). Only thing I really miss is "Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl", and maybe the 7" version of "Cherry Cherry". "Wednesday and Proud"?

Now I wanna dig out Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation and Perfect Teeth.

― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:28 (6 months ago)

one of my favorite bands ever, so creative

― Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 22:16 (6 months ago)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Am looking forward to coming here later and finding SMC trying to explain Unrest to a load of highly-strung Black Metal lurkers

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

and vice versa

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

a load of highly-strung Black Metal lurkers trying to explain SMC to Unrest?

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

XD oops

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

lol hey at least I wasn't the sole voter on this one

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

little-known lurker 'drench' chucked it 5

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Imperial f.f.r.r. is maybe a little more "difficult" than "Perfect Teeth" - more minimalist, and with abrupt detours that reflect the schizoid relationship the band maintained between pop sweetness and avant-garde science experiment. I mean, this is a band that put test tones on their records. Imperial, the title track and centerpiece, builds a simple descending guitar-picked melody into a classicist pop refrain that then devolves into a shimmering haze of what sounds like someone playing champagne glasses/musical bells/windchimes. This band loved space.

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

am I the only person who prefers side 1 of ritual? granted, 'three days' is absolutely amazing and untouchable, but it tapers off severely after that. the A-side cartoon rock shapes are pleasing though.

(do people know disco volante has appeared twice? should I mention that?)

m the g, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

another conceit/in-joke I loved about this band was their way with credits - the liner notes read like they were written by engineers in white coats who felt compelled to specify the bpm and location of recording of every track. and every track was credited to BPM (i.e, Bridget, Paul, and Mark).

xp

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

So... guys, the only Unrest songs I know are "Cherry Cherry" and "Suki" and both songs kind of annoy me, so I've never bothered checking them out any further... but I guess I'm missing something.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i always get unrest and unwound confused.

Matt Daemon (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i also made a hilarious mistake once where i bought an unrest (or unwound) record thinking i was buying an unsane record. figured that one out pretty quickly.

Matt Daemon (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

three days is easily the greatest thing on that album, but then it would dwarf most albums (including nothing's shocking which i'd rate more highly, a little less ambitious but more successful overall)

like with spiderland i'm surprised this wasn't in the original poll, maybe people assumed they were and went off in search of lesser-known albums

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

but I guess I'm missing something.

eh I dunno, it's possible this band is not for you... both those songs are emblematic of their fast-forward jangle-pop angle, which is one of the cornerstones of their style.

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I have some kind of temperamental disinclination for super fast strummy/jangly stuff. Feelies, Wedding Present. My inner tempo for jangle and strum tops out around something like the Fall's 'Fantastic Life'.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

this poll is weird. i've never even heard of unrest before... but listening to Perfect teeth now and liking it. they also kinda sound like unwound, which is extra confusing

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the feelies at their best have a clarity of sound and purpose that recalls (if not matches) television, their first album is one of my favourite recent discoveries

in general i agree with u tho (xp)

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely some Feelies action in Unrest

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

the feelies at their best have a clarity of sound and purpose that recalls (if not matches) television

Dammit you are making me have to listen to Feelies again, I am like bloody mary whenever someone makes a Television comparison.

International Harvester Of Eyes (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

just as long as you remember my caveat....

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

it should have been a caveat, anyway

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha TWO Unrest albums while I was away! oh gosh Mark Robinson's guitar sound. I think I meant to vote for Imperial ffrr. Though I am some kind of nutbag cz I put the Air Miami album on more often these days. And then take it off again halfway through, but the good bits are good.

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I've probably listened to Air Miami more than Unrest recently as well, mainly because my wife really likes the Air Miami album and puts it on a lot.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i always get unrest and unwound confused.

lol I also do this, frequently (for example, while reading these poll results)

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i included imperial in my ballot, but with 0 points, just to indicate that i was in a hurry and too much great stuff was slipping through the cracks. some days i'd call it my favorite album of the 90s, some days not, but i figured it'd have enough support w/out me anyway. and it did. glad to see it here and above the likes of janes, who irritate me to no end. and as a fan of both burzum and unrest, i'd be happy to explain either to the part of myself that digs the other.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Looks like my number two isn't going to make it now. [censored] fans I know you're out there?

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

hate the dude obv, but that burzum album is just unquestionably amazing

Matt Daemon (jjjusten), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

If I have my way, I will never hear that album for as long as I live.

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Would like to see Unwound place but I'll be surprised if they make it. I already helped the American indie rockist cause with votes for the Grifters, Slint and Unrest (ffrr, not Perfect Teeth).

drench, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

in defense of SUPERCONDUCTOR and their HIT SONGS FOR GIRLS

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this seems to be an album that no one else gives a shit about. i've played it for friends a number of times over the years, and no one's ever been as crazy about it as i am. and i don't like the follow-up (bastardsong), and i don't like the goddam new pornographers. i just like HIT SONGS FOR GIRLS. the basic gist is ridiculously catchy pop/metal/prog tunes with nerd-shouted nonsense strewn overtop, played blown-out style by a standard rock combo augmented w five extra guitars. in that sense, it's the anti-unrest, relative to nabisco's brilliant defense of that band: splattery, aggro and and artlessly maximalist to the core. thing is, in spite of all those sightline-obscuring piles of hairball guitar, it's a pop at heart, albeit of a hypercaffeinated, buzz-bombing variety (hallo super furry animals!). though it's far more noisy and chaotic, it often anticipates weezer's blue album, taking the bulk of its cues from 70s & 80s power pop & cheeze metal hitmakers and running them through the indie ironizer. i guess i'm avoiding the g-word here. i don't want to call it a grunge record cuz it's so unlike any other grunge record i can think of, but i've gotta admit that the basic sonic template (popped-out NOISE RAWK) does seem to place somewhere it in that camp. superconductor reedem themselves, though, by never trying to convince you that the angst and aggression are "authentic". the album's got a giant smirk on its face the whole way through, and that makes the paint-peeling histrionics infinitely more palatable.

in the end, i love this record mostly because it's an unbroken wall of absolutely fantastic pop songs, each one its own little wall of hooks. as cartoonish heavy pop, i think it's every bit as consistent as the best of cheap trick, redd kross or weezer. and it's a goddam crime that almost no one's ever heard it [shakes withered fist at the uncaring heavens]. most of the problem, i think, is that it's loud as unholy hell and came out on boner records. it was therefore never gonna sell outside a tiny, bong-damaged punk & metal niche that it didn't really belong in. i mean, it may have seemed to belong there, and i can see why it might appeal to pop-friendly melvins and steel pole bath tub fans. the crucial difference is that, in superconductor's case, the heavy gnarly shit isn't the primary point. instead, it's a kind of theatrical disguise, but to my mind, it's a disguise that enhances rather than diminishing the pop underneath. like, i dunno, like kiss. like the knights in satan's service. and i maybe i said this before, but i love this record to death. i've worn out two copies over the years, and haven't yet got tired of it.

INDIE ROCKIST CAUSE UNITE

contenderizer, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link


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