FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

i see LP5 in the used cd bins all the time.

Ahhh well in that case I may pick up the 1-2 copies I've seen in the local used bins and throw 'em up on eBay.

;-)

get me one for a dollar

ok now for the yin to Burzum's yang...

15 Ice Cube - Death Certificate (1991)
100 points
1 vote
1 first-place vote
Contributor: Daniel L4B34u

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the racism and antisemitism is kind of a fucking drag though

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:55 (3 years ago)

too bad about the misogyny, etc

― gear (gear), Friday, 10 November 2006 00:11 (3 years ago)

It never stops bothering me, but I come to accept it as part of a complex persona i.e. damn Cube's got some funny/sad/lyrical critiques of health care, police brutality & white privilege, but his misogyny and anti-Asian sentiment make me like him significantly less. He's an angry dude, and when he directs that anger at women or Koreans it can get ugly. No caveats.

But I still bump "My Summer Vacation," "Alive on Arrival," and a handful of others on the regular. That's all I'm saying.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 10 November 2006 00:37 (3 years ago)

I guess I would rather deal with the troubling misogyny/racism of an otherwise genius album than suffer through the wack "A GAME OF HORSESHOES" alternatives.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 10 November 2006 00:39 (3 years ago)

another thing that's always bothered me abt critical evaluations of Cube's material - and this was especially true at the time of their release - was that everyone always talked/talks about the lyrics and the problematic politics and the racism/mysogyny etc. while completely ignoring the sonics/beats of the actual music on the records.But the production on the first four Cube records is groundbreaking, insanely dense, deeply engrossing stuff, far and away some of the most inventive sample-based music ever made, and the music adds an appeal and a depth to Cube's material that totally bowled me over and still gives me lots to pick out and pore over even 10+ years on.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:07 (3 years ago)

racism, but with layers.

― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:42 (1 year ago)

not really i think its just racism

― find yr HOOS & steendrive anything in the way (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver)

Ice Cube- Death Certificate 200 points

― President Keyes, Sunday, 28 February 2010 02:06 (2 months ago)

I think I've heard this album once. I was a Predator head.

I can't post many more right now because I'm going to some election party. Maybe two? If you're lucky. It means a supersoaraway top 12 tomorrow!

Just post 'em!

Uncle Tupelo - Anodyne (1993)
101 points
2 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: Euler

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What's interesting to me is to hear the evolution of Jeff Tweedy, from barely noticable sidekick on No Depression to Anodyne, where he runs off with the album and makes Farrar sound a little silly by comparison(not a difficult task, in retrospect). I think Jeff Tweedy peaked on Anodyne.

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:21 (6 years ago)

Overall, I think Anodyne was their strongest collection of songs.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:01 (6 years ago)

Uncle Tupelo were a great band, although Tweedy didn't really come into his own until their last album, Anodyne. Acuff Rose and New Madrid are great songs.

― Stewart Smith (stew s), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:34 (5 years ago)

about tweedy -- uncle tupelo had a lot more to offer people into neil than wilco ever has. anodyne (especially its title track, the last song, and "chickamauga") are square in the crazy horse tradition

― kamerad, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:28 (4 months ago)

uncle tupelo is dope imo

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 07:20 (9 months ago)

I love Anodyne, but didn't get the sense that it would rank up there on a best of the 1990s poll for an indie pub.

― kshighway, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:42 (8 months ago)

14

actually fuck it I need to go. Will try to post some later tonight or w/e.

good luck uk

wait Death Certificate was not on the original poll?!?

that album is un-fucking-believable. the apex of his career.

so good on ya Daniel L4B34u! whoever you are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ScLW8RiFLE

such an amazing opening. (he topped it with "When Will They Shoot?" but I think the Predator is a significantly weaker album)

hi five dude who voted death certificate. the best cube album imo and tbh, i think even better than any nwa album.

Biggie is amazing, he's just not a personal favorite.

― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Thursday, May 6, 2010 8:43 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That's kinda the line I take. I think maybe my ultimate problem with Biggie is he's a bit TOO real for me. Some of his stuff I listen and get uncomfortable, straight up.

M@tt is killin it btw

^^^ truth

even better than any nwa album.

definitely more consistent. Sraight Outta Compton peters out

even better than any nwa album.

My dog could take a shit next to a microphone and it would be better than any NWA album.

somehow I doubt this

you must really enjoy watching your dog shit then

not judging, but theres prob a support group for that out there

not going to make a humandog centipede joek, not going to do it

Hi, my names is ilxor and I am a listening to my dog take a shit addict.

xp

NOT FUNNY, dudes. My dad's life was and is ruined by his addiction to watching dog's shit. He lost his job because of it, and now he just creeps around the park watching the dogs do their business.

hey lj would a fuck load of points awarded to a release that is technically an ep but is over 30 mins be discounted? hadn't occured to me when i voted

i'm pretty sure in the earlier thread EPs were discussed and approved of

i voted for still feel gone cuz that was the first tupelo i had back then, but glad to see them make the poll anyway

just catching up. yay lp5... sort of strategic vote for me as i'm a total autechre stan and couldn't really pick one album, but figured this would be closest to consensus. makes me kinda proud that it was the last entry that didn't rely on one big score (i gave it 21). *sniffle*

i really don't know how to talk about the music without devolving into the usual cliched abstract language. definitely a turning point for them, though the direction was hinted at in cichlisuite (also recommended). i think chiastic slide was their noisiest material at that point, but a lot of the sounds on lp5 have that slippery polished stone and metal texture that they've brought back recently for oversteps. this is also where their rhythms become very distinct from anyone else - that sort of sputtering, ricocheting feel. closest thing was maybe bucephalus bouncing ball, but that always seems totally controlled and scripted in comparison, while lp5 is chaotic with some loose rules. they took this further on ep7, which feels more like a set of experiments to me, and then to its conclusion on confield. lp5 is more musical than either of those albums though.

in other words, it sounds like another world that isn't so different, rather than the imagined idea of another world, which is how i think of amber and chiastic slide. i like that i don't actually know for sure how "acroyear2" is supposed to make me feel. the relationship between the main synth line and percussion sounds alternates between conflict and synergy. the beats and melodies on a lot of the tracks feel inseparable - rae, corc, boac, arch carrier. they make sense of each other. maybe their most fully realized album in that sense.

yeah lp5 is great, gave it 20 iirc

think i'm 4/10 so far - lp5, i care because you do, debut, life after death. have one more lock and maybe another wild card or two...

listening to life after death

the DMC hook on "My Downfall" is really odd...so offbeat with the rest of the song, even weirder cuz it's clear DMC redid the lines, it's not a line they couldn't get to synch right with the track....

can't tell if it bugs me or i think it's kinda genius

i care because you do is so good. put it on again the other day and was all "yep, still so good"

ha ha I was the vote for Death Certificate. Forgot to send my username with the ballot.

xp - that dmc hook bugs me a little tbh. trying too hard or something cf biggie.

would like to hear more e40 re: fat rappers. biggie rides the beat better than probably anyone else though imo.

IMO Death Certificate is the best 1 vote album so far, and I'm not even a huge fan of west coast.

Listened to Auteurs - New Wave for the first time in 16 years. The vocals are very Dean Wareham. Despite that, I like it *downloading other three albums*.

turns out it was Right Said Fred who did the Sonic the Hedgehog tune,

never knew this existed, thanks Tuomas

(though I liked it better when I thought you were making it up and megatrolling with the "I can never remember" post)

btw upthread, nwa minus cube is dope, efil4zaggin and 100 miles and runnin' are, imo, locks for any goons record collection. I think it took 'em all a while to grow up and find their voice, whether together or not though. Eazy, Dre and Cube all eclipsed nwa when they went for dolo.

^^^except for the last sentence, otm. "100 Miles & Runnin'" is like the dopest shit ever

For some reason I'm always mixing up Boo Radleys with Right Said Fred - which one of them did the Sonic the Hedgehog song?

― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 May 2010 17:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark

This... just nearly made my eyes fall out. Until I realised that "Free Huey" does kind of sound like that Sonic The Hedgehog song.

so pleased to see LP5 and Giant Steps in a row! Def two of my all time favourite records.

THE NEXT ALBUM ON THIS POLL IS THE FIRST ONE WITH TWO FIRST-PLACE VOTES

CONSEQUENTLY IT IS GETTING A HUGE IMAGE

we gon' get to #1 today big homie?

ummmm depends how long my body feels like holding out. and whether i take plaxico up on his offer of top-10 mspaint art. might get him to do the mspaint art for the 'special awards' tbh