FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

poll has been a victory for techno I really ought to listen to but haven't, and the fact it already has more rap than the o.g. list is also worthy of celebration

Amber is dope as hell guys. My fav Autechre.

Another of my votes

Given how Ghostface's profile has gone up since the previous poll, I guess it's still possible for him to make it, but I can't think of any other rap album that would have a guaranteed spot in the top 10. Maybe Me Against the World still has a chance, I've always thought people rated it higher than All Eyez on Me?

Peronally, I voted for 8 rap albums, but looks like none of the are gonna make it. Where's the love for Heltah Skeltah, Cypress Hill, The Coup, Eve, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony...?

STILL hoping The Score, 2001 and Midnight Marauders have a chance.

Midnight Marauders

This already placed.

oh damn :(

Ghostface's '00s career hasn't really seemed to lift Ironman's standing among the '90s Wu Tang albums much at all, really doubt it'll be here.

I'm still hoping LFO place

well then fuck it, i'm on the 'hope a troll gave 3xdope 200 points' bandwagon.

I'd say Ironman has a pretty good shot.

Where's the love for Heltah Skeltah, Cypress Hill, The Coup, Eve, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony...?

No one was actually into Eve, Cypress Hill or Bone Thugs albums, were they? All three seem extremely singles-driven to me.

also DAMMIT John and I could have put two ICP albums in the top 10

first two cypress hill albums are worth checking, eve+bonethugs suck, sorry guyz for breaking the bad news.

Bone Thugs and Cypress Hill sold a ton of albums and have/had tons of fans, but I don't think enough of them are on ilx to make an impact.

amerikkkas most also must have a chance?

ok i must leave. good work clint.

Well actually I do remember ppl owning the first Cypress Hill album but only ever playing like 3 songs on it

you think Eve should be on the list??

Not in my opinion... I'm sure rap fans rate the first three Cypress Hill albums pretty high, and I voted for Temples of Boom, which isn't a singles-driven album at all. As for BT-N-H and Eve, personally I think their debut albums are very good from the beginning to the end, but I'm not sure how many people share this opinion.

(x-post to Dan)

having said all that, this is my jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJemMbUFYU

i thought about voting for creepin' on ah come up but i wanted to limit my votes to only 10 albums so my points would have more of an impact and i had rock and other shit to get on there, not just rap.

voting for temples of boom over the first two and esp the first cypress is pretty o_O to me

Bone were gigantic around my way and still are really. Everybody had their albums. I even still heard them a lot after they weren't selling records anymore.

btw a hoy hoy u suck at life

you think Eve should be on the list??

Hell yeah! It has one of the finest set of Swizz Beatz beats ever, Eve is fierce and hungry on that album, basically every song is good except for the boring ballad that's stuck to the end. Even the interludes on that album are great - "My Bitches" rules!

For a couple years, BTNH were pretty much THE biggest rap group in my area.

guys guys not every album in this poll can be hip-hop

i actually think bone thugs are even more amazing now than i did at the time.....

removed from them being popular fixtures in rap i'm struck by how completely unique their style was, how by the incredibly eccentric and cryptic way they flowed.

like i can't even believe they happened.

lj i think we're just coming to terms with the likely absence of hip hop in the top 10 by dwelling on what didn't make it for a moment. if you wanna start posting the top 10 i'm sure we can talk about that instead!

I am not saying they are bad! I am saying I didn't think people thought about them in the context of albums; like, I am certain "The Crossroads" and at least one Cypress Hill single would appear on a singles/tracks poll.

first Cypress Hill album is amazing fuiud

haha no it's cool al, this is pretty good discussion so i'm content to let it ride. haha i've already started posting the top 10!

haha!

BTNH were pretty much THE biggest rap group in my area.

really? where was this? I never got the impression they were even that huge in LA

rev's seattle

T-dog still waiting patiently for that Vast Aire/Eve collab to drop

looooooove bone thugs stuff. and yeah m@tt otm at just how o_O they really sound to me at this point

cypress hill (although i dug them at the time) is sort of a two trick pony to me

totally never cared about autechre sorry guys

I posted one of those tricks to the thread

oh right i already forgot about 10

i can doublehaha if i want, esp if i'm not thinking straight due to fucked-up sleep patterns

anyway folks it's time to give indie-rock some sweet lovin'!!

9 Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West
134 points
4 votes
2 first-place votes (other: Parenthetical Grillz)
Greatest contributor: monster_xero

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i still really like in the lonesome crowded west.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 21:38 (3 years ago)

LCW shouldn't have been cut down; its the best indie record of any sort in tbe 90s, like pavement with more feeling & amphetamines.

― 7seasjim, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 06:39 (3 years ago)

I say this every time Modest Mouse comes up, but "Lonesome Crowded West" is a perfect album.

― dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 12:59 (5 years ago)

Lonesome Crowded West and Songs In The Key Of Life are the only ones I know that are good all the way through, in that Nilsson Schmilsson way where every new track that comes on makes you go, "Fuck! This is good!" There are tons, tons, tons of double albums that more or less acquit themselves, the White Album being the quintessential example, with enough gems to balance out the general lack of focus. But on a single album those kinds of ratios would equal a major bomb, making these types of things a "fans only" thing whose idiosyncracies you come to love... very few artists manage even one SINGLE album that really feels like it needs all its songs, so perhaps I'm holding doubles to a high standard, but really we'll be here all day if we list every double album that's "good" in the White Album sense....

― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 September 2006 12:13 (3 years ago)

As for fave album, another vote for "Lonesome Crowded West." Great for long drives, where it never seems long at all. I was so grabbed by that disc when I first got it (I think in '97, when they played L.A. shows with Strictly Ballroom, the band that splintered into Dntel and Beachwood Sparks!), mainly because of the fact that the band had these themes running through the disc, yet it wasn't any kind of "rock opera" or anything. It all flows together so well.

― Bent Over at the Arclight (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 25 February 2005 20:58 (5 years ago)

I can't see how anyone could say Eve sucks, when her debut has tracks like this, but to each according to this taste...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWE0YEkH_o

(many x-posts)

Modest Mouse = gtfo

memories of when this band didnt fucking suck so goddamn much.

Another of my votes!

and i love that record, and a couple others, but current modest mouse just fills me with rage. they were better when they were pulling off angular half-assed shambling pixies rips

still though, 2 first-place votes!

Nice to see some BTNH love in here, but you guys should've voted for E. 1999 Eternal then! (Or did you?) To me it's been one of the rap albums of the 90s ever since it came out, when I heard "Da Crossroads" I just fell in love with their style. I think it's kinda awesome how they combine that sweet doo-wop rap style with dark, almost corny Gothic imagery.

okay so some cursory googling is making me think a particular piece of folklore from my family is not actually true; to wit, I don't think that is my cousin singing the "WE ARE SOLDIERS NOW" caterwaul on "Mo Thug Family Tree" after all

I am kind of bummed but mostly relieved because that part of the song is FUCKING WRETCHED

"i'm trying to drink away the part of the day that i cannot sleep away"

^lived those words

btw..

apparently i like to pop in a lot of thread and say:

"I really like [insert album here]"

terribly enlightening posts! i need to censor myself more.