FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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Repulsively dud. Idiotic prog-wacky for the lower sixth.

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 01:00 (8 years ago)

OTM (sorry).

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I gotta say louis, everything about that album sounds/looks terrible to me

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

What a result!

If I had this for longer than a week when I sent my votes in this could have been a lot closer to number 1.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

This is where shit gets real and about 95% of otherwise enlightened music-lovers shove their fingers in their ears and run screaming. I can only surmise that the album is just too fucking much. It's not so much an exuberant puppy as an army of sugar-fixated baby kangaroos all trying to jump into your arms at the same time during the most colossal rainstorm imaginable, although for some reason the sun is shining brightly and your brain is being rewired by the greatest genius to compose in the rock format that ever lived. Cardiacs' melodies, production, chord-sequences...they're not better. They're level-up.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

#7?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks for making me never, ever want to hear Cardiacs

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, if you're someone who likes to chill out with their music, avoid. If you're someone who just wants more, and more, and more, and to have every imaginable square micrometer of their cochlea scoured by some new sound, ferocious idea or dazzling conceit; if you're someone who wants music to hurtle faster and faster into a blur of sound, sense and wonder; if you crave intensity, then get fucking hold.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan, I think you'd like some of their stuff! Mike Patton is an ENORMOUS fan, and can often be found in a Cardiacs T-shirt

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I just listened to "Dirty Bird" to see if it was the song I remembered - it was. I remembered it sounding like a hybrid of Midnight Oil and Queen, and I still think that. Two things I may like but never, ever, want together.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Let the people decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdeJD0L3GvM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP6nEQyP6uA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFliGc1D_EU

This is my favourite song ever. Take it or violently throw it out of the window:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-dd4fMUhAY

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

(second of those isn't STG, whoops...but listen to it anyway. after the others.)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfWoWHHRNA

um is it all like this? this is garbage

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

so firing up "Dirty Boy" at the moment and it isn't so much cochlea-scouring intensity as it is boring, anonymous guitar rock with a horribly annoying singer

maybe it gets better after the first minute

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

actually I guess I would describe this as "Placebo covering Oasis"

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Whole album's on Youtube.

NO SHAKEY IT IS NOT LIKE THAT - that is when they were VERY young and hadn't really developed anything except their wackiness. They grew up fast.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Even *I* don't like the really early stuff much

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Even *I* don't like the really early stuff much

― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, May 7, 2010 8:41 PM (4 seconds ago)

Which album do you think they became great on?

Kitchen Person, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

actually I guess I would describe this as "Placebo covering Oasis"

― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE),

haha

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

They became great on A Little Man... but Tarred And Feathered not only predates it by quite a few years, it also manages to be genuinely infuriating. Especially as it's often the first (and last) people ever hear of this band. Curse you, Youtube.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

agree w/Dan about the vocals. yikes

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfWoWHHRNA&feature=player_embedded

is without doubt the worst thing I've ever heard in my life

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus fuck, 8:57? no fucking thanks

ironically, "Tarred and Feathered" is like way way way more entertaining to me

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

#
TubeWolf220 How does one comment on this new Youtube version thing? Oh, here's the box. Good. Golly, I genuinely think it must take a metric fuck-tonne of talent to sound like you're playing BACKWARDS! Rather astonishing stuff, this. The song 'Tim Smith' on the Wildhearts' album 'Chutzpah!' is a fitting tribute to this defiantly uncategorizable loon, I think. 'When the future needs a legacy, where will the unit-shifters be?' Best wishes, Tim. 5 days ago

lj is that you?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

these guys kind of a deserve an award for being like the most unsettling looking ppl on the planet

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I do struggle with Cardiacs on record, but they're one of the most staggering live acts I've ever seen. Utter genius.

mike t-diva, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan, you've reckoned without the middle onwards being some sort of quasi-religious experience ;_;

All I'm asking is that a few of you listen to those three Youtubes. Either insult me or throw roses at my feet but at least give them a listen. At least try and understand where my brain is coming from.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

They became great on A Little Man... but Tarred And Feathered not only predates it by quite a few years, it also manages to be genuinely infuriating. Especially as it's often the first (and last) people ever hear of this band. Curse you, Youtube.

― Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, May 7, 2010 8:43 PM (1 minute ago)

I always loved that song, I recently got Songs For Ships & Irons and actually think it works as an album and is one of their best. It has a bit of everything. Sing to God is their masterpiece I am on your side with this one.

Also it really is worth sticking with Dirty Boy the last two minutes are just incredible.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

like if I saw any of these ppl walking towards me on the street, I would be half-convinced they would lunge at me and start trying to eat my face while extolling the merits of flood insurance between bites

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xp: I bailed around the 4 minute mark? my ears were aching by that point

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ill give the youtubes a shot when i am not at work.

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan, seriously, go back and listen to it all. Skip the first three minutes if you have to. Haha, you quit JUST as it gets good!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

By 'good' I mean 'jaw hits floor'

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

This might be a good one to start with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYMkS11D_nA

Kitchen Person, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

next please

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"Is This The Life?" is pretty good tho

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

okay it was pretty good until I clicked back to the annoying video

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I would've probably liked Sing to God if I was about 14 the first time I heard it. It's too late for me now, though.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

oh actually it was 5:37 where I bailed

I would like this a lot more with a different singer

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

really can't get past the vocal style

lol xp

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Next one is very appropriate. Just sayin'. It's also one of the goddamn greatest things I've ever heard, so I'm only too happy to launch into it. I have a hunch more people will be with me on this one.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

is it Wu Tang Forever

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

it is a bonus track vote for "Shut Up" by New York Style

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-dd4fMUhAY

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Friday, 7 May 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

It's got everything going against it. It's an EP, a cover, and pretty much an instrumental. Hell if it's not coming to my desert-island though. I've actually written more about this record than anyone else on ILM, amusingly enough. Like, way more so than Cardiacs. I only gave it...7 points though. Felt right.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

SEV-AHHHN The Boredoms - Super Roots 7 (1997)
148 points
5 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: samosa gibreel

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cLI19EXK2oU/Sn5Aqy4DsRI/AAAAAAAAARw/RaIfshuiXPc/s400/superroots7.jpg

OK seriously, anyone who doubts that SR7 is one of the crowning achievements in modern music needs to go do one

― Robin van Injury (country matters), Monday, 9 February 2009 13:08 (1 year ago)

The way it gets going in the first 3 minutes is a bit like a process by which numerous keys have to be turned and numerous codes sequenced before the device that explodes the Sun can be put into gear

― Robin van Injury (country matters), Monday, 9 February 2009 14:53 (1 year ago)

Don't think I've recommended any other track as much.

― ogmor, Monday, 9 February 2009 14:16 (1 year ago)

oh my god. im listening to super roots 7 for the first time, after FINALLY finding it on slsk this morning. d00d. fucking unbelieveable. new one is very good, but this is really really great.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:27 (5 years ago)

yea, i listen to super roots 7 all the fucking time dude

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Thursday, 30 September 2004 23:39 (5 years ago)

when SR7 cranks into the super fast stuff at 10 minutes and then at 13 minutes, it annihilates me entirely. i value that.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:23 (5 years ago)

super roots 7 > everything else

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:28 (3 years ago)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

The way it gets going in the first 3 minutes

I meant Boriginal itself here, not the intro track, btw

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

YES

bug holocaust (sleeve), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

nice

nakhchivan, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

didnae vote fr boredoms (split vote anyway) but used to rly love them and still very fond

nakhchivan, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

now cranking

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link


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