FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)

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I debated giving 190 points to a Joe Satriani album (one with him singing, especially), but thought better of it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the only Trumans Water album on the poll!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty interesting: every electronic album that's appeared so far is of the "home listening" variety, except for that Sasha & Digweed comp, and that made it on the strength of one vote. Where were all the dance heads when voting took place? Sure, dance music is singles-oriented, but surely albums like The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich or Every Man and Woman is a Star, or comps like Platinum Breakz would've deserved a spot here?

― Tuomas,

Tuomas you complained about the lack of hip hop & techno in the poll. Then you complained about the hip-hop choices now youre complaining about the techno. I dont get this.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

polls are never going to be in line with most peoples taste.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

hey're really busy both production-wise and composition-wise in a way where it becomes uncomfortable for me to process everything that's going on and i end up just kinda AUGH ... MY EARS ARE BLEEDINg

beautiful! that is exactly what I love about them, and why I voted for this album. I live for that discomfort and discombobulation, and they do it soooo spectacularly well. and yeah, I took a long time to become obsessed with them. they're pernicious like that.

super roots 7? really surprised that it wasn't chocolate synthesizer or super AE. of all the boredoms stuff that's probably the one I know/have listened to the least... I have it, but it never struck me as in any way exceptional. probably worth revisiting on the strength of the above advocacy.

good to see truman's water in here too.

m the g, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

super ae placed high in the og poll

I thought "escargot" was a snail? (Matt P), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

chocolate synthesizer would be my pick too but it's not as much of a crowd-pleaser u know

I thought "escargot" was a snail? (Matt P), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

xp ahh, that would be why.

I voted synthesizer. you don't get much more crowd-pleasing than 'acid police'.

m the g, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

m@tt have i ever told you about how i avoided sicbay for their entire career because i thought they were nu-metal because of the misspelled name?

feel stupid about it now that i have actually heard them. oops.

Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

5 Cat Power - Moon Pix (1998)
165 points
2 votes
1 first-place vote
Greatest contributor: Gravel Puzzleworth

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5veTilZgC-4/SaraB-HmckI/AAAAAAAAGdU/mav87m3gavc/s400/Cat+Power-+Moon+Pix+(1998).jpg

moon pix, it's where she reaches the peak of mesmerization.

― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 14 August 2009 22:26 (8 months ago)

Moon Pix is one of my favourite records.

― sean gramophone, Saturday, 15 August 2009 22:29 (8 months ago)

moon pix, its got that dazed metallic sound that none of the others do.

― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 15 August 2009 22:34 (8 months ago)

Moon Pix is a such a goddamn awesome record. Impossible to follow it up.

― Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:23 (8 months ago)

I mean, I love all of Moon Pix, it's my favourite album, it's all magical, but C&tK is a spell & a litany - plenty of people have sounded so personal but every time I hear that song it stops being about her halfway through and becomes about me.

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, 29 April 2010 18:39 (1 week ago)

This was the first Cat Power record I heard. I've really liked everything I've heard since but it'd be lying to myself if I didn't admit is all been a bit of a let down after 'Moon Pix'.

― AnotherDeadHero, Friday, 30 April 2010 17:14 (1 week ago)

Chan Marshall and her
Pubic hair, an indie boy
Dream; heavens above.

- a hoy hoy

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like OOIOO - Feather Float (1999), but probably like most people didn't discover it until it was reissued a few years back.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Wait, this WASN'T in the original poll? I didn't bother voting for it because I just assumed it had placed. xp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

hi emil.y. do you like I'm Being Good? they are kind of Trumans Watery but from Brighton. you are probably aware of these things since their main guy did his rad twee-creepy cartoon stylings for Plan B magazine etc. anyway I nearly voted for "Poisonous Life" but ran out of time and ballot places, sorry I'm Being Good

(xposts)

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Old ILX, dude (xp)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

If there's not gonna be any Dirty Three, at least there's this.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

hell you have probably gigged with them and all, but, just saying in case not! (more xposts)

xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

this top ten is a load of crap

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Tuomas you complained about the lack of hip hop & techno in the poll. Then you complained about the hip-hop choices now youre complaining about the techno. I dont get this.

I'm not complaining about the electronic albums that have placed so far (technically none of them are "techno", besides the Sasha & Digweed they're all IDM/ambient/electro), I like most of them. Just saying that I was expecting to see some dance music in this poll, since 90s were such a great decade for dance/house/techno, but so far we've seen only one trance comp.

Tuomas, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Moon Pix so much - I'm glad it didn't win because it's not very ILX (as these results show!) but I wasn't trying to troll or voting strategically in giving it that many points; I really esteem it over ever other 90s record by a lonely mile.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

hi emil.y. do you like I'm Being Good?

Yes! Oddly enough, I just saw them play last night.

emil.y, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Tell you what - I've got ILX's resident art expert Plaxico to interpret the #4 album's cover, just to mix things up a bit.

Tuomas, unfortunately not too many of the big dance experts voted. This polling-method would have been better-served if someone else had run it; I don't think I'm being paranoid when I say that plenty of people didn't contribute because I'm regarded as a bit of a running ILM joke.

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Or maybe they just don't vote in polls. First 90's poll had about 150-200 mfing ballots tho

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I just somehow didn't notice this poll until too late.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha FUCK I was wrong earlier!!!! Shit!!!!!

Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements WAS NOT the last record without a number 1 vote. This was! I didn't even think this could happen!!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

m@tt have i ever told you about how i avoided sicbay for their entire career because i thought they were nu-metal because of the misspelled name?

feel stupid about it now that i have actually heard them. oops.

― Samhain 69 (jjjusten), Friday, May 7, 2010 10:07 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah man that's too bad! i think you would have loved them live especially...i believe they were sickbay (with the k) for like a year but then some band had the copyright and they already had an album out and didn't want to change it or something like that

dave (the guitarist in sicbay) is now in the yoleus

that said, i don't think they are broken up necessarily, they have done a few shows here and there when the singer is visiting from nyc so you might be able to catch them sometime

the Rob Based god (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Not to derail the proceedings, but since most poll talk originates in polling threads, when are we going to set the 2004-09 poll in motion and who's going to run it?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

do we have to?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I meant 2005-09, obvs.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Why should we do a 2005-09 poll instead of polling the whole decade?

Tuomas, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

because kid zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

el j debarge (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

EVERYONE SHUSH

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

4 The Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun (1999 OR 2000 but please don't vote for it in the 00's poll now)
166 points
8 votes
0 first-place votes
Greatest contributor: monster_xero

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/lejospopo/newsun.jpg

Actually, the songs on VCN do change, as do the melodic motives. They do so subtly, over time, much like a lot of minimalist pieces and electronic dance music (not to mention krautrock, some of Miles Davis' fusion stuff, Indian classical music, et al). Obv, they are not "songs" in the same sense pop songs are, nor are they lengthy symphonic pieces. By the same token, they are not monolithic. One could argue the beat in thousands of pop songs never changes, yet they are hardly "going nowhere". The beat, in the case of VCN, is mostly rooted in 4-on-the-floor disco pulse, though what happens on top of it is almost constantly changing. And even then, it is the *tempo* which does not change, rather than the beat, as VCN features very clear transitions from disco-oriented pulse to motorik beat (which lines up in tempo, but is an altogether different rhthmic pattern).

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:44 (4 years ago)

I think VCN 'climaxes' at points too, but it's a more subtle climax. A female orgasm to Phish's male one, perhaps?

― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:05 (4 years ago)

gareth texted me last week saying "download vision creation newsun by the boredoms, no questions, just do it!" btw

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:34 (5 years ago)

Vision Creation Newsun is the greatest record of this generation.

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (ex machina), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:16 (6 years ago)

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

At some point, it was established we'd follow the 2000-04 poll with a 2005-09 poll and then poll the entire decade somewhere down the line (like, next year). xxxp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah a decade poll seems better, but some want a 2004-2009 poll purely to exclude Kid A.
xposts

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

SHUT UP AND JAM

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for the fresh cover art, plax.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

naw, not purely to exclude Kid A, but the early-2000s canon is so established and boring that it would be nice to let the decade's latter half get its shine on for a bit

el j debarge (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

aw man i woulda voted for that boredoms if i'd known it was eligible. Add 1 point folks!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!

Knew this was a sure thing for the poll.

emil.y, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

So happy The Boredoms have monstered the Top 10 you guys

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, unfortunately I have to agree with Shakey on the quality of the top 10 so far.

Tuomas, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Tuomas that boredoms album is amazing.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Can we something else than "art rock" next, please?

Tuomas, Friday, 7 May 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

well I dig the Boredoms at least. altho two in the top 10 seems kinda overkill

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

We can, actually xp

Shakey, it might be a TAD overkill but not many people voted for both!

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

lol Tuomas the Boredoms are totally dance-y/trance-y especially the period nominated here. bears little to no resemblance to rock (well, krautrock maybe)

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^otm

Biggest jump of the entire poll between 4 and 3 btw

Mansun was where I fucked up (acoleuthic), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Tuomas doesn't like any kind of the many subgenres of rock. Except maybe for a tiny bit of 70s funk rock.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 May 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link


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